Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:59:25 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.

Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?

but winners in the past, when it was still mainly a Western ESC.

Many thought the ESC was a joke from its inception.

It is an entertainment show rather than a serious competition.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

In message , Martin
writes
On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.

Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?

but winners in the past, when it was still mainly a Western ESC.

Many thought the ESC was a joke from its inception.

They were correct.

Britain's Got Talent was won by a dog.

Next year it'll be won by a turd.

--
Ian

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:27:03 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 26/05/2012 2:14 AM, Ian wrote:
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.

GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.

apparently it does still work out as the cheapest 3 hours of prime time
event television of the year though.

The test card would be cheaper and more entertaining.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Mon, 28 May 2012 12:41:28 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 09:14:07 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:31:40 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24:14 +0100, Dickie mint
wrote:

On 25/05/2012 20:44, David wrote:
How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David

From an old FoI:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805
2010 £283,190

Cheap TV! even including artiste fees, studio, lines/sat, etc

Richard

I spent the time trying to guess which visual elements were real and
which where virtual.

I decided that the water fountain was fake, but was proved wrong when
Jedward got its hair wet.

Are you saying that Jedward are real?

They are. Unfortunately, some would say, Jedward are not a CGI creation
that can be switched off when not needed.

If they were CGI then they'd be able to mime (and dance) better.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:09:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:59:25 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.

Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?

but winners in the past, when it was still mainly a Western ESC.

Many thought the ESC was a joke from its inception.

It is an entertainment show rather than a serious competition.

Then it fails in its primary purpose.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:55:08 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:09:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:59:25 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.

Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?

but winners in the past, when it was still mainly a Western ESC.

Many thought the ESC was a joke from its inception.

It is an entertainment show rather than a serious competition.

Then it fails in its primary purpose.

It seems to attract viewers.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:55:10 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:55:08 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:09:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:59:25 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, May 27th, 2012, at 23:20:02h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

Treating the whole thing completely seriously would make it unbearable,
at least to me.

Well if you know that your entry is never going to win,
it is best not to take it seriously.

And if you are not going to take it seriously, then you are
never going to win ...

(Self-defeating cycle eh?)

If I understand correctly, second last this year?

but winners in the past, when it was still mainly a Western ESC.

Many thought the ESC was a joke from its inception.

It is an entertainment show rather than a serious competition.

Then it fails in its primary purpose.

It fails in its primary purpose as a ***song*** contest. The European
bit is very iffy too.

And it fails to be entertaining (to me).
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:53:28 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:50:55 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:27:03 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 26/05/2012 2:14 AM, Ian wrote:
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.

GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.

apparently it does still work out as the cheapest 3 hours of prime time
event television of the year though.

The test card would be cheaper and more entertaining.

Cheaper than pumping out 30 year old episodes of TOTPs?

What's TOTP go to do with it?
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On Wed, 30 May 2012 14:26:17 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:32:15 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:53:28 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:50:55 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:27:03 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 26/05/2012 2:14 AM, Ian wrote:
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
And where do the EBUget the dosh?

Brian

The "Big Five", who are the countries who as a result of paying most
towards it, go straight into the final.

GB wouldn't ever be in the final otherwise.

apparently it does still work out as the cheapest 3 hours of prime time
event television of the year though.

The test card would be cheaper and more entertaining.

Cheaper than pumping out 30 year old episodes of TOTPs?

What's TOTP go to do with it?

It's on BBC 2 every weekday evening ATM. If the BBC used a test card
instead of ancient repeats people might notice and query what they
were getting in return for the licence fee..

I'd imagine some old episodes of TOTP would be a lot more entertaining
than the EvSC.

However the BBC is self-destructing ATM as they are cutting most of
their decent programmes (what's left of them).
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 

On 30/05/2012 14:11, Mark wrote:
I'd imagine some old episodes of TOTP would be a lot more entertaining
than the EvSC.

I've been watching some of them. Come back Pan's People and Legs & Co
(Lovely Babs... can't remember her name though...) I'm about old enough
to remember some of them, and it's sheer nostalgia for me.

EvSC? No way.

Andy