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Peter Duncanson May 26th 12 06:57 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:06:16 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Java Jive
writes

On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:26:57 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Ah, yes, but I don't think that would meet the contest rules. It is a
song contest not a singing contest. The songs have to be new.


To Ireland's eternal shame, that didn't stop Dana winning it, even
though her song was a plagiarism of "My Favourite Things" from "The
Sound Of Music".


But at least you can still remember the tune, and probably nearly all of
the words. This is more than can be said for most of the entries for the
past ten years.


Just returning to the original question -

Much of the cost of staging the contest is met by the host country.

Brief quotes from articles in The Times yesterday and today:

Cash-strapped Spain hopes for nul points at Eurovision
May 25 2012

Hosting Eurovision may be a badge of national pride for former
Soviet republics like Azerbaijan but it inspires financial terror in
some cash-strapped members of the European Union.

Spain's contestant has admitted that the crisis over the Euro single
currency and massive government spending cuts mean that victory in
Baku would be greeted with less than generous applause at home.
Pastora Soler joked that directors at the state broadcaster, TVE,
pleaded with her not to win because they could not afford the cost
of hosting next year's Eurovision.

"If we won, I think it would be impossible to stage the next edition
because it costs so much money," she told ABC Punto Radio.

This year's Eurovision has nul points for democracy
May 26 2012

Azerbaijan stages the most expensive and extravagant Eurovision
final in history tonight, ...

....
The Azerbaijani Government has refused to say how much
it spent on the 23,000-seat Crystal Hall, built for the event, but
researchers put the cost at $277 million (£177 million) based on
state orders for the construction.

They found that another $500 million had been lavished on
improvements in the capital, Baku. These included 1,000 London
taxis, nicknamed "aubergines" locally because of their purple
livery, to ferry visitors along the Caspian Sea shoreline between
the shimmering venue and city centre hotels, which have doubled
their rates to cash in on the influx of foreigners.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Richard Tobin May 26th 12 10:17 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
In article ,
Java Jive wrote:

To Ireland's eternal shame, that didn't stop Dana winning it, even
though her song was a plagiarism of "My Favourite Things" from "The
Sound Of Music".


If so, it was a great improvement.

-- Richard

Java Jive[_3_] May 26th 12 11:19 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
I suspect that you are confusing the winsome pouting of Dana with
Julie Andrews in the film, and thinking she's an improvement. As far
as the actual *song* goes, it's not really an improvement - the same
sentiments expresses almost the same way with a very similar tune,
only sung at a different tempo to suit the winsome singer.

It really was an outrageous piece of plagiarism to claim it as a new
song.

On Sat, 26 May 2012 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

If so, it was a great improvement.

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Bill Wright[_2_] May 26th 12 11:47 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
Martin wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 13:09:48 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

PeterC wrote:

Some countries do seem to be (literally) only marginally European; Israel is
Middle East, not European. If we're having ...stans in, why not Pakistan?

We are actually at war with Pakistan.


Does the MOD know?


Of course they do. Haven't you heard about the anti-terrorist
precautions for the Olympics?

Bill

Graham.[_2_] May 27th 12 03:54 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On Sat, 26 May 2012 22:19:37 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

I suspect that you are confusing the winsome pouting of Dana with
Julie Andrews in the film, and thinking she's an improvement. As far
as the actual *song* goes, it's not really an improvement - the same
sentiments expresses almost the same way with a very similar tune,
only sung at a different tempo to suit the winsome singer.

It really was an outrageous piece of plagiarism to claim it as a new
song.

On Sat, 26 May 2012 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

If so, it was a great improvement.


Original enough IMHO.
The genre is the same certainly. let's call it a whimsical wish-list.
Beyond that they are different songs.

--
Graham.
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Graham.[_2_] May 27th 12 04:31 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24:14 +0100, Dickie mint
wrote:

On 25/05/2012 20:44, David wrote:
How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


From an old FoI:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805
2010 £283,190

Cheap TV! even including artiste fees, studio, lines/sat, etc

Richard


I spent the time trying to guess which visual elements were real and
which where virtual.

I decided that the water fountain was fake, but was proved wrong when
Jedward got its hair wet.

The Irish score reporter had trouble with her vertical hold, and being
the final score it keeps being repeated on the news with the genlock
problem.


--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Scott[_4_] May 27th 12 08:46 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?

I watched it for a short time last night and Graham Norton was dire
(IMO). I heard people complaining about him on the car radio today.

At least Wogan was a broadcasting legend who brought a distinctive
form of presentation to the Eurovision.

Mark Carver May 27th 12 09:04 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
Scott wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:44:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?


He stepped down.

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Paul Ratcliffe May 27th 12 09:21 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:30:19 +0200, Martin wrote:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/foi/class...ts_to-_ebu.pdf

2009 £279,805


That is £29,805 more than cost of staging the 1948 Olympic Games in
London.


A pointless comparison. Why don't you compare it to the cost of staging
the 2012 Olympic Games, seeing as both events occur in 2012.
FFS, some people...

Paul Ratcliffe May 27th 12 09:23 PM

Paying for EuroVision Song Contest.
 
On Sun, 27 May 2012 19:46:47 +0100, Scott
wrote:

How is it paid for tomorrow, Azerbaijan? BBC?
Regards
David


(Drifting off topic) Was Terry Wogan fired or did he choose to step
down?


It was his own choosing. Good timing I reckon.


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