Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:05:31 +0100, Mark
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:11:59 +0100, Graham C
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:27:43 +0100, Hugh Newbury
wrote:

On 21/04/12 08:53, Hugh Newbury wrote:
I'm thinking of getting a new tv, but I know nothing of the advantages
or otherwise of the various types: OLED, edge lit, plasma, etc. I have
googled, but can't find a site that explains the basics.

Any advice from you knowledgeable lot?

Thanks all for the excellent help and advice. I'll think about it for a
month or two!

Hugh

In a month or two everything will have changed. Sets with scarts are
becoming somewhat rare - they may have disappeared completely on
anything worth buying.

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c) the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

2. A Scart to RF convertor (modulator).
E.g:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/programmable...odulator-33050

Unclear whether this supports RGB and/or s-video.

I think I would look really hard for a TV with SCART. Some have a
'mini-SCART' requiring an in-line adapter.

(I wonder how long TVs will be produced that support 'analogue' teletext so
I can continue to watch my opera LaserDiscs with subtitles.)

--
Max Demian

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

"Max Demian" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c) the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

Eh? Since when was HDMI an analogue system? The whole idea is surely to
allow older "legacy" kit to input into a modern TV via HDMI, not to feed
HDMI output new kit into an older analogue TV tuner.

Tim

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , J G Miller
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if connectivity / Internet apps / media player is important to you,
as it should be, because that is is where the future of TV lies ...


Only if ISPs are going to provide unlimited bandwidth, without throttling,
at a low cost.


This is why I am still stuck with my Virgin Media account.
Although the Internet connection at 10Mb/sec is pretty damn good I can't get
iPlayer over t'Internet at the same quality as direct from the Virgin Media
STB.

If the average 1.5 hour Grand Prix episode from iPlayer is over 1Gb then a
month of viewing over t'Internet is going to push the 10Gb per week/month
"fair use" policies a bit.

Cheers

Dave R
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[Not even bunny]

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Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

In message
-septembe
r.org, Tim writes
"Max Demian" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c) the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

Eh? Since when was HDMI an analogue system? The whole idea is surely to
allow older "legacy" kit to input into a modern TV via HDMI, not to feed
HDMI output new kit into an older analogue TV tuner.

Quite!

Also, MD assumes that composite video is inferior to S-video and RGB.
I've never used S-video, but I can assure him that - at least with the
tellies in my house - composite video (CVBS) is usually clearer than
RGB. [But don't ask me why!]
--
Ian

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

Peter Duncanson wrote:

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

2. A Scart to RF convertor (modulator).
E.g:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/programmable...odulator-33050

Or better, just ditch the old stuff (it owes you nothing) and buy
again.

--
SteveT

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
"Max Demian" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c)
the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

Eh? Since when was HDMI an analogue system? The whole idea is surely to
allow older "legacy" kit to input into a modern TV via HDMI, not to feed
HDMI output new kit into an older analogue TV tuner.

Sorry, I got the references the wrong way round. That paragraph refers to
the Maplin modulator.

--
Max Demian

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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In message
-septembe
r.org, Tim writes
"Max Demian" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c)
the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

Eh? Since when was HDMI an analogue system? The whole idea is surely to
allow older "legacy" kit to input into a modern TV via HDMI, not to feed
HDMI output new kit into an older analogue TV tuner.

Quite!

Also, MD assumes that composite video is inferior to S-video and RGB. I've
never used S-video, but I can assure him that - at least with the tellies
in my house - composite video (CVBS) is usually clearer than RGB. [But
don't ask me why!]

There must be something funny about your system ;-

CVBS superimposes the colour information on the luminance signal, so
*should* be inferior to RGB which feeds the CRT guns/LCD pixels with the
colours separately - when I switch my PVR output from CVBS to RGB I notice a
significant increase in sharpness.

--
Max Demian

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:57:25 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
"Max Demian" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c)
the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

Eh? Since when was HDMI an analogue system? The whole idea is surely to
allow older "legacy" kit to input into a modern TV via HDMI, not to feed
HDMI output new kit into an older analogue TV tuner.

Sorry, I got the references the wrong way round. That paragraph refers to
the Maplin modulator.

That fits much better!

I'm not clear about the present and future position regarding TVs. Are
they being produced without analogue tuners?

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

In message , Max Demian
writes
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message
-septembe
r.org, Tim writes
"Max Demian" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

That's a worry. I still have a VCR (remember them?), a DVD player and
a STB connected to my old TV via scart connectors. The STB does have
an HDMI connector but the others don't.

This could be a problem when my TV breaks.

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

That will (a) only work with an old TV with an analogue tuner, (b) works
with a composite input not s-video or RGB so fuzzy and artifacts and (c)
the
sound will almost certainly be mono.

Eh? Since when was HDMI an analogue system? The whole idea is surely to
allow older "legacy" kit to input into a modern TV via HDMI, not to feed
HDMI output new kit into an older analogue TV tuner.

Quite!

Also, MD assumes that composite video is inferior to S-video and RGB. I've
never used S-video, but I can assure him that - at least with the tellies
in my house - composite video (CVBS) is usually clearer than RGB. [But
don't ask me why!]

There must be something funny about your system ;-

Undoubtedly. But it happens with the three TVs in current use.

CVBS superimposes the colour information on the luminance signal, so
*should* be inferior to RGB which feeds the CRT guns/LCD pixels with the
colours separately - when I switch my PVR output from CVBS to RGB I notice a
significant increase in sharpness.

This is true - except, in my case, it doesn't quite work.
--
Ian

Pro's and cons of different tv types
 

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:49:20 +0100, Steve Thackery
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

Here are two possible solutions.

1. A Scart to HDMI convertor.
E.g:
http://www.hdcable.co.uk/scart-hdmi-converter.html

2. A Scart to RF convertor (modulator).
E.g:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/programmable...odulator-33050

Or better, just ditch the old stuff (it owes you nothing) and buy
again.

Worse IMHO. Unless you have money to waste and do not value any of the
"old stuff". IME "old stuff" is often constructed far better than
"new stuff" that replaces it.
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