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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:52:54 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:54:38 +0100
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:51:10 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:33:09 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
Why they're
even bothering to go through the motions of a trial is beyond me.

As is much, it seems. But you could start off by reading up on why every
civilised country conducts a trial - even when the accused pleads guilty.

Every civilised country? You sure about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea

"Under common law, a plea of guilty by the defendant waives trial of the
charged offences and the defendant may be sentenced immediately. This
produces a system under American law known as plea bargaining."

Or is the country that sent men to the moon not "civilised" enough for you?

The country that also executes juvenile offenders and the mentally
ill?

You mean juvenile offenders and the mentally ill who have murdered people?
So what? I don't have a problem with that. Someones age or mental state does
not excuse murder anymore than being ****ed excuses running someone down in
a car and killing them.

So you agree that killing people is wrong ?

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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:59:32 +0100
Charles Ellson wrote:
"Under common law, a plea of guilty by the defendant waives trial of the
charged offences and the defendant may be sentenced immediately. This
produces a system under American law known as plea bargaining."

Or is the country that sent men to the moon not "civilised" enough for you?

The country that also executes juvenile offenders and the mentally
ill?

You mean juvenile offenders and the mentally ill who have murdered people?
So what? I don't have a problem with that. Someones age or mental state does
not excuse murder anymore than being ****ed excuses running someone down in
a car and killing them.

So you agree that killing people is wrong ?

I do? Can you point out exactly where I said that please.

Killing people is perfectly legitimate in a number of situations such was war,
executions and self defense. There are many more where it its not.

B2003

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On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 08:38:55h +0000, Boltar 2003 wrote:

Killing people is perfectly legitimate in a number of situations
such was war, executions and self defense.

So you do agree that in some circumstances it is legitimate to
kill a police officer?

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On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:42:57 +0000 (UTC)
J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 08:38:55h +0000, Boltar 2003 wrote:

Killing people is perfectly legitimate in a number of situations
such was war, executions and self defense.

So you do agree that in some circumstances it is legitimate to
kill a police officer?

Christ , you're so obvious with your leadings questions you might as well
signpost them in neon :o)

B2003

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On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 10:49:12h +0000, Boltar 2003 wrote:

you're so obvious with your leadings questions you might as well
signpost them in neon :o)

So if you were an Israeli soldier and a Palestinian policeman was
shooting at you, you would not shoot back?

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On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:34:19 +0000 (UTC)
J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 10:49:12h +0000, Boltar 2003 wrote:

you're so obvious with your leadings questions you might as well
signpost them in neon :o)

So if you were an Israeli soldier and a Palestinian policeman was
shooting at you, you would not shoot back?

Oh, is that it? I thought you'd come up with something about civil unrest
during periods of revolution. 3/10.

Anyone trying to save their own life would shoot back. What is your point
exactly? Assuming you arn't just trying to pin a tail on any donkey that
happens to pass by as you blindly grope for one.

B2003

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On 20/04/2012 12:34, J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 10:49:12h +0000, Boltar 2003 wrote:

you're so obvious with your leadings questions you might as well
signpost them in neon :o)

So if you were an Israeli soldier and a Palestinian policeman was
shooting at you, you would not shoot back?


An IDF soldier would probably just get the whole Palestinian village bombed.

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On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 15:16:03h +0100, MB wrote:

An IDF soldier would probably just get the whole Palestinian village bombed.

That would come later as "collective punishment".

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On 20/04/2012 15:33, J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, April 20th, 2012, at 15:16:03h +0100, MB wrote:

An IDF soldier would probably just get the whole Palestinian village bombed.

That would come later as "collective punishment".



But standard operating policy for the IDF. The apologise afterwards of
course.

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On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:38:55 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:59:32 +0100
Charles Ellson wrote:
"Under common law, a plea of guilty by the defendant waives trial of the
charged offences and the defendant may be sentenced immediately. This
produces a system under American law known as plea bargaining."

Or is the country that sent men to the moon not "civilised" enough for you?

The country that also executes juvenile offenders and the mentally
ill?

You mean juvenile offenders and the mentally ill who have murdered people?
So what? I don't have a problem with that. Someones age or mental state does
not excuse murder anymore than being ****ed excuses running someone down in
a car and killing them.

So you agree that killing people is wrong ?

I do? Can you point out exactly where I said that please.

Do you know the significance of placing "?" at the end of a sentence ?

Killing people is perfectly legitimate in a number of situations such was war,
executions

So as long as the correct ceremonials are performed you see nothing
wrong with killing somebody irrespective of the justification for
doing so ?

and self defense. There are many more where it its not.