Quick Sky Freesat query
 

To get the branded Freesat from Sky service you apparently need to cough £25
for a card.
According to Sky.

Now I have the chance of an old Sky box - is there an easy way to get
Freesat without giving Sky money?

Google is not initially being helpful.

Cheers

Dave R

--
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[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote:
To get the branded Freesat from Sky service you apparently need to cough £25 for a card.
According to Sky.

Now I have the chance of an old Sky box - is there an easy way to get
Freesat without giving Sky money?

Google is not initially being helpful.

Cheers

Dave R

You won't need a card to view the channels that are also available on
non-Sky Freesat. I think there are some channels still only available free
to view (in other words, you need a Sky card), but nothing worth watching.
All the main BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 channels are now free to air (in other
words, you don't need a Sky card).

A proper Freesat box will give you a better EPG (you don't have to scroll
through endless channels that you can't watch).

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"Silk" wrote in message
...
"David WE Roberts" wrote:
To get the branded Freesat from Sky service you apparently need to cough
£25 for a card.
According to Sky.

Now I have the chance of an old Sky box - is there an easy way to get
Freesat without giving Sky money?

Google is not initially being helpful.

Cheers

Dave R

You won't need a card to view the channels that are also available on
non-Sky Freesat. I think there are some channels still only available free
to view (in other words, you need a Sky card), but nothing worth watching.
All the main BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 channels are now free to air (in other
words, you don't need a Sky card).

A proper Freesat box will give you a better EPG (you don't have to scroll
through endless channels that you can't watch).

Thanks - have a 4 port LNB with two free so I might as well have a play.

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
To get the branded Freesat from Sky service you apparently need
to cough £25 for a card.
According to Sky.

Now I have the chance of an old Sky box - is there an easy way
to get Freesat without giving Sky money?

Google is not initially being helpful.

Cheers

Dave R

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")



A Sky box will work without a card but you will get BBC1 London
and ITV Central West as defaults. Channels 1-5 are all free to
air (FTA) but quite a few free-to-view (FTV) others including
Film4, I think E4 aand More4, and some of the siblings of the
main channels (such as 5* and 5USA) are still encrypted

If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

One thing you cannot get with Sky without a subscription is HD.
If you decide not to pay the Murdoch empire and buy yourself a
Freesat (as like Freeview) box then you do have the option of the
free HD channels if you buy a HD box - that is BBCHD (soon to
become BBC2 HD,) BBC1HD, ITVHD and Ch4HD. I would say however
from personal experience that HD is not really worthwhile on
screens less than 32" or even most would say 37". Boxes from the
usual places - Curry's World, Comet, Argos, etc., but also look
at www.humax-direct.co.uk for manager's specials which are quite
a good reduction.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

"Woody" wrote:
"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
To get the branded Freesat from Sky service you apparently need
to cough £25 for a card.
According to Sky.

Now I have the chance of an old Sky box - is there an easy way
to get Freesat without giving Sky money?

Google is not initially being helpful.

Cheers

Dave R

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")



A Sky box will work without a card but you will get BBC1 London
and ITV Central West as defaults. Channels 1-5 are all free to
air (FTA) but quite a few free-to-view (FTV) others including
Film4, I think E4 aand More4, and some of the siblings of the
main channels (such as 5* and 5USA) are still encrypted

All of these channels are now FTA. You may need to faff about a bit with
adding them manually, but they are definitely free.

If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

Only a few quid more will get you a Freesat box. With a Freesat box,
everything is taken care of for you, including your region.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:39:26 +0000 (UTC)
Silk wrote:
If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

Only a few quid more will get you a Freesat box. With a Freesat box,
everything is taken care of for you, including your region.

And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

B2003

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:39:26 +0000 (UTC)
wrote:
If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

Only a few quid more will get you a Freesat box. With a Freesat box,
everything is taken care of for you, including your region.

And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,
and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

B2003

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:59:17 +0000 (UTC)
d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

Ignore the comma, it completely changes the meaning of the question!
It was a genuine question, not a sarcastic repost. I'd assumed freeview power
was being racked up and everyone should get all the channels by now.

B2003

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

In message , d
writes
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:59:17 +0000 (UTC)
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

Ignore the comma, it completely changes the meaning of the question!
It was a genuine question, not a sarcastic repost. I'd assumed freeview power
was being racked up and everyone should get all the channels by now.

B2003


Some relays don't provide all the muxes.
--
Ian

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On 4/16/2012 8:59 AM, d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

No. Many remote areas don't get the full range of Freeview channels, and
before the changeover to digital, could only receive 5 channels.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On 4/16/2012 9:19 AM, Ian wrote:
d writes
d wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your
house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough
money to donate to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like
Houston space centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable-so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

Ignore the comma, it completely changes the meaning of the question!
It was a genuine question, not a sarcastic repost. I'd assumed
freeview power was being racked up and everyone should get all the channels by now.

Some relays don't provide all the muxes.

Exactly.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On 4/16/2012 9:06 AM, d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:59:17 +0000 (UTC)
d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

Ignore the comma, it completely changes the meaning of the question!
It was a genuine question, not a sarcastic repost. I'd assumed freeview power
was being racked up and everyone should get all the channels by now.

I did wonder!
Relays don't necessarily carry the full range of channels.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 14:19:39h +0100, Ian wrote:

Some relays don't provide all the muxes.

Strictly speaking in terms of "relays", no relay provides all multiplexes.

All relays only provide three multiplexes with the exception of Ferrybridge
which provides four.

Some sites which were analogue relays are no longer relays in the strict
sense, and are termed "daughter sites" and these provide all Freeview
multiplexes. These sites transmitted digital television before analog
switch off and began with On Digital.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 09:50:47h -0400, S Viemeister wrote:

No. Many remote areas don't get the full range of Freeview channels, and
before the changeover to digital, could only receive 5 channels.

For quite a number, actually only four. There were large areas of
the British Isles were Channel 5 analog was never available, particularly
in the South region.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:34:21 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

B2003


A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah yes, the ones who come to britain because they haven't got 2 pennies to
rub together in their own country but mysteriously find enough cash to
pay for satellite TV and a widescreen TV once here. Amazing isn't it?

B2003

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J G Miller wrote:
On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 14:19:39h +0100, Ian wrote:

Some relays don't provide all the muxes.

Strictly speaking in terms of "relays", no relay provides all multiplexes.

All relays only provide three multiplexes with the exception of Ferrybridge
which provides four.


That's not strictly true. There are quite a few relays that provide the
full experience. Ilchester Crescent and Kings Weston Hill in Bristol are
two I can think of for a start.

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

Ian wrote:

Some relays don't provide all the muxes.

And in many areas, it's not possible to get your local region on Freeview.
Some people even have to suffer Welsh TV. The horror!

Quick Sky Freesat query
 

wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:39:26 +0000 (UTC)
Silk wrote:
If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

Only a few quid more will get you a Freesat box. With a Freesat box,
everything is taken care of for you, including your region.

And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Probably no worse than throwing away a perfectly good aerial in favour of a
nice new "digital" one with 0.5dB of extra gain over the old one.

I agree with you when it comes to certain sections of society. Topping up
the food cupboard takes a back seat to Sky TV, tattoos, piercings, fags,
booze, drugs and a mobile phone to organise criminal activity.

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On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 14:48:41h +0000, Silk declared:

J G Miller wrote:
On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 14:19:39h +0100, Ian wrote:

Some relays don't provide all the muxes.

Strictly speaking in terms of "relays", no relay provides all multiplexes.

All relays only provide three multiplexes with the exception of Ferrybridge
which provides four.


That's not strictly true.

Yes it is.

There are quite a few relays that provide the full experience.

No there are not.

Ilchester Crescent and Kings Weston Hill in Bristol are
two I can think of for a start.

But those are not *relays*. They are line fed from Mendip.

Try reading the rest of the posting which you snipped --

Some sites which were analogue relays are no longer relays in the strict
sense, and are termed "daughter sites" and these provide all Freeview
multiplexes. These sites transmitted digital television before analog
switch off and began with On Digital.

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah. So someone does watch BBC4?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:48:45 +0000 (UTC)
Silk wrote:
I agree with you when it comes to certain sections of society. Topping up
the food cupboard takes a back seat to Sky TV, tattoos, piercings, fags,
booze, drugs and a mobile phone to organise criminal activity.

On the plus side, at least when they riot they generally only smash up their
own slums. Probably too dumb to read a map to find their way out.

B2003

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"Silk" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:39:26 +0000 (UTC)
Silk wrote:
If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

Only a few quid more will get you a Freesat box. With a Freesat box,
everything is taken care of for you, including your region.

And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your
house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston
space
centre.

Probably no worse than throwing away a perfectly good aerial in favour of
a
nice new "digital" one with 0.5dB of extra gain over the old one.

I agree with you when it comes to certain sections of society. Topping up
the food cupboard takes a back seat to Sky TV, tattoos, piercings, fags,
booze, drugs and a mobile phone to organise criminal activity.

Bloody hell.
I'm right behind the police station.
Do you think I should take my dish down just in case they kick the door in
and charge me with being in possesion of offensive tattoos?
Oh, and which mobile phone is best for organising criminal activity?

--
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[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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(")_(")

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J G Miller wrote:

But those are not *relays*. They are line fed from Mendip.

They're relays. Be told. Where they take their "feed" from is irrelevant.

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:39:26 +0000 (UTC), Silk wrote:

If it works then lash out the £25 for a Freesat-from-Sky card
(once off payment) or use a Sky subscription card which is no
longer active for subscription channels - it will still work and
decode the FTV channels as well and give you the correct region
for the FTA channels.

Only a few quid more will get you a Freesat box. With a Freesat box,
everything is taken care of for you, including your region.

If you prefer another region (I did), search for a town or village in that
region, find a business there that has its address on its site and use that
postcode. My postcode gives me Anglia (West) and I prefer Oxford; don't,
however, waste time trying to get an ITV region - they're so big as to be
meaningless.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:07:14 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 09:50:47h -0400, S Viemeister wrote:

No. Many remote areas don't get the full range of Freeview channels, and
before the changeover to digital, could only receive 5 channels.

For quite a number, actually only four. There were large areas of
the British Isles were Channel 5 analog was never available, particularly
in the South region.

They didn't miss much!

Steve

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In message , d
writes
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:34:21 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

B2003


A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah yes, the ones who come to britain because they haven't got 2 pennies to
rub together in their own country but mysteriously find enough cash to
pay for satellite TV and a widescreen TV once here. Amazing isn't it?

B2003


This isn't the Daily Mail, so please give us a break.
--
Ian

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:46:32 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:34:21 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

B2003


A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah yes, the ones who come to britain because they haven't got 2 pennies to
rub together in their own country but mysteriously find enough cash to
pay for satellite TV and a widescreen TV once here. Amazing isn't it?

B2003


They are just the basics of life. We can all do without food so long
as 100 channels are available:)

Steve

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:00:57 +0100
"David WE Roberts" wrote:
Oh, and which mobile phone is best for organising criminal activity?

Blackberry.

B2003

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:21:01 +0100
Ian wrote:
In message , d
writes
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:34:21 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

B2003


A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah yes, the ones who come to britain because they haven't got 2 pennies to
rub together in their own country but mysteriously find enough cash to
pay for satellite TV and a widescreen TV once here. Amazing isn't it?

B2003


This isn't the Daily Mail, so please give us a break.

Correct , its whats known as "reality", which if you're a Guardian reader its
something you'll only be distantly familiar with.

B2003

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On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 15:03:24h +0000, Silk retorted:

J G Miller wrote:

They're relays.

QUOTE

a combination of a receiver and transmitter designed to receive
radio signals and retransmit them, in order to extend their range

UNQUOTE


Be told.

"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone,
'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."

Where they take their "feed" from is irrelevant.

From whence they take their feed is entirely relevant to the point
being made.

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On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 16:00:57h +0100, David W E Roberts asked:

Oh, and which mobile phone is best for organising criminal activity?

If you need to ask, ask a journalist from News International.

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S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:59 AM, d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your
house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like
Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite
dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

No. Many remote areas don't get the full range of Freeview channels, and
before the changeover to digital, could only receive 5 channels.

Actually, most relays only had 4 channels, now just the 3 PSB muxes.

--
Adrian

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In message , Silk
writes
J G Miller wrote:

But those are not *relays*. They are line fed from Mendip.

They're relays. Be told. Where they take their "feed" from is irrelevant.

I would have thought that at any particular location, the limitation on
the number of 'new' reorganised MUXes is essentially determined by
number of free holes that are left in the spectrum (although I suppose
there could also be constraints due to lack of physical 'real estate' in
the equipment racks and the aerial systems).
--
Ian

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:40:06 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Monday, April 16th, 2012, at 15:03:24h +0000, Silk retorted:

J G Miller wrote:

They're relays.

QUOTE

a combination of a receiver and transmitter designed to receive
radio signals and retransmit them, in order to extend their range

UNQUOTE



Only if it is a repeater relay. Some relays are primarily
transponders. The ones I worked on did both. The identification signal
must have been received from the transponder before switching to
repeater mode. Mind you it's nearly 50 years since I worked on relays
so things may have changed a bit.

Steve

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah. So someone does watch BBC4?

Yes, people with intelligence.

Bill

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On 16/04/2012 1:59 PM, d wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:50:04 -0400
S wrote:
On 4/16/2012 8:46 AM, d wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

Some parts of the country get no more than 20 channels with Freeview,

Only 20 channels? Life must be tough. I hope they get free councilling.

and have no access to cable - so there are many homes with satellite dishes.

Why, can't they get the 80 odd channels on freeview?

B2003




in the last few years, whenever i've stayed in weymouth, the freeview
tuners only receive a dozen or so tv channels - lots missing.
maybe they all have useless aerials or maybe there's something to it.

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:45:00 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:34:21 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:
And mounting a bloody ugly satellite dish on the side of your house/squat.
Funny how so many people in allegedly "poor" areas have enough money to
donate
to murdochs pension fund. A lot of inner city areas look like Houston space
centre.

B2003


A lot of those dishes are for the foreign channels the immigrants like.

Ah yes, the ones who come to britain because they haven't got 2 pennies to
rub together in their own country but mysteriously find enough cash to
pay for satellite TV and a widescreen TV once here. Amazing isn't it?

I can't help noticing that many hospital wards in Sheffield are largely
filled by people who don't speak a word of English.


It that the patients or the staff?

Steve

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