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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:12:44 UTC, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes I had to laugh the other day when an ex chief exec of a hospital trust
said exactly that after coming out of hospital. One assumes as she had been
in charge she must have been party to the installation in the first place.
Double standards or what? Its almost as bad as hospital car parking charges.

I don't object to paying - its the "guess how long your appointment is
running late" and pay up front I hate.
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In message [email protected], Dave Saville
writes
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:12:44 UTC, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes I had to laugh the other day when an ex chief exec of a hospital trust
said exactly that after coming out of hospital. One assumes as she had been
in charge she must have been party to the installation in the first place.
Double standards or what? Its almost as bad as hospital car parking charges.

I don't object to paying - its the "guess how long your appointment is
running late" and pay up front I hate.

High Wycombe hospital has, at long last, finally changed their carpark
from pay-and-display to take-a-ticket-and-pay-when-you-leave. However,
they have put up the charge from £1 an hour to £1.50. Previously, you
knew you would usually be safe if you pre-paid for 2 hours (£2), but as
Sod's Law ensures that your stay will be 1h 05m, so you now end up
paying £3. Still, mustn't grumble (I suppose). At least you won't get
clamped.
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"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I had to laugh the other day when an ex chief exec of a hospital
trust said exactly that after coming out of hospital. One assumes as
she had been in charge she must have been party to the installation
in the first place. Double standards or what? Its almost as bad as
hospital car parking charges. Brian

There's another way of looking at those, though. Why shouldn't hospital
patients and their visitors pay a little bit more for facilities that they
are the ones using? They're the ones who are benefitting from the medical
treatment after all, and a substantial proportion of the money raised goes
back into hospital funds.

wrt to parking you're going to get the same answer that I posted the last
time that this was asked.

There are many cases where hospitals have moved from (expensive), easy to
get to, town centre locations to cheaper out of the way edge of town
locations which are only accessible by car.

ISTM most unreasonable for somebody (anybody), offering a monopoly service,
to move to an out of the way location for *their* convenience and then
charge the people that they have forced an inconvenient journey upon to get
to them, to pay to park as a revenue stream.

tim

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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:11:18 +0000 (UTC), "Dave Saville"
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:12:44 UTC, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes I had to laugh the other day when an ex chief exec of a hospital trust
said exactly that after coming out of hospital. One assumes as she had been
in charge she must have been party to the installation in the first place.
Double standards or what? Its almost as bad as hospital car parking charges.

I don't object to paying - its the "guess how long your appointment is
running late" and pay up front I hate.


Also there must me lots of motorists who get a call from the hospital
and rush there to spend the last few moments with their dying
relitive, and then find they have a charge notice.



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Graham.
%Profound_observation%

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Ian Jackson wrote:

Sod's Law ensures that your stay will be 1h 05m, so you now end up
paying £3. Still, mustn't grumble (I suppose). At least you won't get
clamped.

The legislation that will remove the option of clamping is entering its
final stages, and I think it is too late for that part of it to be
removed:
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/...ffreedoms.html

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tim.... wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I had to laugh the other day when an ex chief exec of a hospital
trust said exactly that after coming out of hospital. One assumes as
she had been in charge she must have been party to the installation
in the first place. Double standards or what? Its almost as bad as
hospital car parking charges. Brian

There's another way of looking at those, though. Why shouldn't
hospital patients and their visitors pay a little bit more for
facilities that they are the ones using? They're the ones who are
benefitting from the medical treatment after all, and a substantial
proportion of the money raised goes back into hospital funds.

wrt to parking you're going to get the same answer that I posted the
last time that this was asked.

There are many cases where hospitals have moved from (expensive),
easy to get to, town centre locations to cheaper out of the way edge
of town locations which are only accessible by car.

I doubt if any hospital is really accessible only by car. In my
experience, there are _always_ bus routes serving them.

Anyway, town centre locations are not necessarily easy to get to for
everyone, nor are they likely to have sufficient room for the car
parking they really need.

ISTM most unreasonable for somebody (anybody), offering a monopoly
service, to move to an out of the way location for *their*
convenience and then charge the people that they have forced an
inconvenient journey upon to get to them, to pay to park as a revenue
stream.

A small charge payable to the hospital that is expensively treating you
or a person you think enough of to be visiting. It's not too much to
ask surely?

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In article , Bill
wrote:
In message , J G Miller
writes

Who would have thought is possible ten or more years ago? (Not just the
technology but the economics as well.)

Just having an AM radio in the car was at one point a luxury for many
people.

Just having a car was a luxury, when I were a lad we had to make do with
the bus.

When I were a lad, my dad was a bus driver!

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Norman Wells
wrote:
tim.... wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...

There are many cases where hospitals have moved from (expensive), easy
to get to, town centre locations to cheaper out of the way edge of
town locations which are only accessible by car.

I doubt if any hospital is really accessible only by car. In my
experience, there are _always_ bus routes serving them.

Again, this depends on your definition of "really accessible".

The main hospital we have to use is in Dundee (Tayside), well away from the
center of the town. We are in Fife. The hospital was previously near the
center of Dundee.

We are fortunate in having a frequent bus service to Dundee - but not to
the hospital itself. For us that adds a walk to get from one stop to
another. OK for us.

But others who live in villages around Fife may have no bus service at all,
or just one or two busses a day. And may have to change more than once. I'm
not sure how many ill/worried people would call that "really accessible"
TBH.

Anyway, town centre locations are not necessarily easy to get to for
everyone, nor are they likely to have sufficient room for the car
parking they really need.

Erm, I thought the idea of saying they were "really accessible" by bus
would be that you'd have little need for car parking. :-)

Speaking simply from the local experience, getting to the hospital that was
in Dundee {DRI} was far easier than having to take another bus up to
Ninewells.

ISTM most unreasonable for somebody (anybody), offering a monopoly
service, to move to an out of the way location for *their* convenience
and then charge the people that they have forced an inconvenient
journey upon to get to them, to pay to park as a revenue stream.

A small charge payable to the hospital that is expensively treating you
or a person you think enough of to be visiting. It's not too much to
ask surely?

Will you convince him by calling him Shirley?... :-) ...or was your
'question' really just telling you view? And what if it is a *large*
'charge'? Are you the sole judge of what others may find "small"?

Slainte,

Jim

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J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, March 18th, 2012, at 01:53:58h +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Ah, but I know the people here.

Which proves the point that you treat the newsgroup as
your own personal forum. ;+)

You're being ridiculous.

Bill

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Jim Lesurf wrote:

Its a nice rhetorical question, based on a presumed dichotomy. But the
reality is that such 'non medical' things may well have an impact on the
medical side, and the outcome, and how soon people can get back to being
involved in society. Life isn't always as simple as the rhetorical
questions politicians like to 'ask'.

Patient surveys about the hospital experience usually mention parking
problems. It is obviously a major concern. Just at the time when you're
stressed or feeling badly you don't want parking hassle.

Bill