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Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?
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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?




had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat - even
though signal was full strength.

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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?




had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat - even
though signal was full strength.



Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program on
nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.

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Rick wrote:

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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?




had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat - even
though signal was full strength.



Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program on
nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.
That programme was fine here, from Emley Moor.

And it strikes me that they'd better hurry up and get fusion working.

Bill

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:23:11 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

And it strikes me that they'd better hurry up and get fusion working.

It has worked for years. The problem is that energy out is only a tiny
fraction of the energy needed for the magnetic or laser confinement.

Steve

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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:23:11 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

And it strikes me that they'd better hurry up and get fusion working.

It has worked for years. The problem is that energy out is only a tiny
fraction of the energy needed for the magnetic or laser confinement.

Is that what you call 'working'? You should be employed by the council.
They put more energy in than ever comes out.

Bill

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On Feb 24, 10:49*am, "Rick" wrote:

Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program on
nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.

+1 VM cable.

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On 24/02/2012 10:49, Rick wrote:

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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?




had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat - even
though signal was full strength.



Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program on
nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.

I am relieved to read this as I have been blaming the wind for moving my
dish, or wondering if there was a problem with the LNB. The problem is
sporadic. Usually poor reception is consistently bad.


--
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:11:53 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:23:11 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

And it strikes me that they'd better hurry up and get fusion working.

It has worked for years. The problem is that energy out is only a tiny
fraction of the energy needed for the magnetic or laser confinement.

Is that what you call 'working'? You should be employed by the council.
They put more energy in than ever comes out.

Bill

My local council do an excellent job. They empty my bins. What more
should I expect?

Steve

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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?




had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat -
even though signal was full strength.



Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program
on nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.

Is this a live broadcast situation, or just recordings, as has been
reported before?
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On Friday, February 24th, 2012, at 14:13:36h +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme observed:

My local council do an excellent job. They empty my bins.

Are you sure about that?

I thought the majority of councils contracted out the service to
their friends in the garbage collection business --
after all, where thar's muck, thar's brass.

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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?




had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat - even
though signal was full strength.



Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program on
nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.
it was
Is this a live broadcast situation, or just recordings, as has been
reported before?


On the programme in question, occasionally it had all the symptoms of flaky
reception, picture break up with loud pops on sound, although mostly it had
the effect of jumpiness, as if frames had been dropped.

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Friday, February 24th, 2012, at 14:13:36h +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme observed:

My local council do an excellent job. They empty my bins.

Are you sure about that?

I thought the majority of councils contracted out the service to
their friends in the garbage collection business --
after all, where thar's muck, thar's brass.

My bins are empted by Stockport Waste & Recycling. The only part
contracted out is bulky item collection.

Steve

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J G Miller wrote:

I thought the majority of councils contracted out the service to
their friends in the garbage collection business --
after all, where thar's muck, thar's brass.

Is English your first language, JG?

Bill

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On Friday, February 24th, 2012, at 16:06:03h +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

I thought the majority of councils contracted out the service to
their friends in the garbage collection business --
after all, where thar's muck, thar's brass.

Is English your first language, JG?

Oh sorry, should it have been spelt "wheer" in local parlance,
and not "muck" but "mook" maybe?

More examples at

http://www.yorkshiredialectsociety.org.UK/all_dialect_writing.html

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J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, February 24th, 2012, at 16:06:03h +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

I thought the majority of councils contracted out the service to
their friends in the garbage collection business --
after all, where thar's muck, thar's brass.
Is English your first language, JG?

Oh sorry, should it have been spelt "wheer" in local parlance,
and not "muck" but "mook" maybe?

No, the bit I was commenting on was 'thar's'. As I'm sure you know the
Yorkshire accent and dialect varies enormously, but you'd never hear
'thar's'. Probably the phrase would be something like 'where thiz muck
thiz brass'. Certainly around here 'where' would be pronounced 'where',
but in a lot of places it would be 'weer'. Our accent/dielect here is
strongly influenced by the Notts accent, because of the influx of miners
from that area a hundred years ago.

Bill

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:07:03 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

No, the bit I was commenting on was 'thar's'. As I'm sure you know the
Yorkshire accent and dialect varies enormously, but you'd never hear
'thar's'.

I confess I was probably making the almost unforgiveable faux pas
and mixing it up with the Lancashire accent, which would of course be
more appropriate for our Stockport correspondent.

QUOTE

As we say in Lancashire :
"Everthing/one's weird these days, 'cept me an' thee
and thar's a bit quair tha'sel'" .

UNQUOTE

Probably the phrase would be something like 'where thiz muck
thiz brass'.

Yes that does sound more appropriate for east of the Pennines.

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:58:56 -0000, "Rick" wrote:

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On 23/02/2012 10:30 PM, Java Jive wrote:
Absolutely ruining my recording of this episode, what's going on?

Is anyone else seeing this?

had glitches during top of the pops on bbc 4 earlier on freesat - even
though signal was full strength.

Same here on BBC 4 Freesat, all the way through the Brian Cox program on
nuclear fusion, with signal at over 80 per cent.

Is this a live broadcast situation, or just recordings, as has been
reported before?

No. Basically every program all the way through the entire evening
yesterdaysuffered intermittently from glitching, meaning that the
whole of yesterday's output was barely watchable. I'm particularly
gutted, because I've been recording Dennis Potter's "The Singing
Detective", and last night's episode was ruined.

On the programme in question, occasionally it had all the symptoms of flaky
reception, picture break up with loud pops on sound, although mostly it had
the effect of jumpiness, as if frames had been dropped.

Yes.

As every program was affected, although I'm not really qualified to
say, I would guess there was a problem at the playout suite, or
whatever it's called. But, for chrissake, couldn't they, as back in
the 'good old days', have interrupted the first programme affected,
reputedly Top Of The Pops '77 at 1930hrs, apologise with a notice and
"In the meantime here is some music", and FIXED it. Ok, so TOTP77
would have been a write-off, but at least the rest of the evening's
output would have been saved.

And, BTW, WTF is TOTP77 doing on BBC4 anyway? I wouldn't have wanted
to watch it even back in '77, let alone now. Old Grey Whistle Test,
yes, TOTP, only under compulsion, which I would have relieved by
taking the p*ss out of it.
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On Feb 24, 8:52*pm, J G Miller wrote:

I confess I was probably making the almost unforgiveable faux pas
and mixing it up with the Lancashire accent, which would of course be
more appropriate for our Stockport correspondent.

Hmm, possibly never been to Stockport, have you?!

If you do an accent-holiday, don't forget Widnes for it's interesting
blend of Lancs. and Scouse!

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David Paste wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:52 pm, J G Miller wrote:

I confess I was probably making the almost unforgiveable faux pas
and mixing it up with the Lancashire accent, which would of course be
more appropriate for our Stockport correspondent.

Hmm, possibly never been to Stockport, have you?!

If you do an accent-holiday, don't forget Widnes for it's interesting
blend of Lancs. and Scouse!
Or the Isle of Man for its blend of Scouse and Irish. Or Whitby for its
blend of the Hull accent and the Middlesbrough one.

Bill

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On Saturday, February 25th, 2012, at 01:54:14h -0800, David Paste asked:

On Feb 24, 8:52Â*pm, J G Miller wrote:

I confess I was probably making the almost unforgiveable faux pas
and mixing it up with the Lancashire accent, which would of course
be more appropriate for our Stockport correspondent.

Hmm, possibly never been to Stockport, have you?!

I have been to Stockport on two occasions in fact. Stockport
having prior to the infamous Heath-Walker reforms of April 1st, 1974
been in Cheshire, would not have had Lancashire accents of course,
but its residents would I guess be more familiar with them than
foreign accents from East of the Pennines.

If you do an accent-holiday, don't forget Widnes for it's
interesting blend of Lancs. and Scouse!

How does that compare to Saint Helens?

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On 24/02/2012 11:26 PM, Java Jive wrote:

And, BTW, WTF is TOTP77 doing on BBC4 anyway? I wouldn't have wanted
to watch it even back in '77, let alone now. Old Grey Whistle Test,
yes, TOTP, only under compulsion, which I would have relieved by
taking the p*ss out of it.



i'm enjoying it - especially because you get the crap with the good,
putting to rest the myth that music was better in the past - it's just
that time is the filter that means you only remember the good.
with TOTP 2 you would never get something awful like the ' oh superman '
song that was on top of the pops a couple of months back.

--
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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

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On Feb 25, 4:06*pm, J G Miller wrote:

I have been to Stockport on two occasions in fact. *Stockport
having prior to the infamous Heath-Walker reforms of April 1st, 1974

Before my time, that, but I presume that's the county mix-up thing?


How does that compare to Saint Helens?

Oh now come on, NOTHING compare to S'ntellins!

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On Feb 26, 8:25*pm, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

i'm enjoying it *- especially because you get the crap with the good,
putting to rest the myth that music was better in the past

What caught my attention about the show a few weeks back were 1. the
guy in the white jumper with a golliwog on the front of it, and 2. The
picture of a Ford Cortina half-way through a car wash to illustrate
the Rose Royce song. It was an amazing exercise in literal nonsense.


it's just
that time is the filter that means you only remember the good.
with TOTP 2 you would never get something awful like the ' oh superman '
song that was on top of the pops a couple of months back.

Laurie Anderson? That sounds like fightin' talk!

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On 26/02/2012 9:59 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:25 pm, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

i'm enjoying it - especially because you get the crap with the good,
putting to rest the myth that music was better in the past

What caught my attention about the show a few weeks back were 1. the
guy in the white jumper with a golliwog on the front of it, and 2. The
picture of a Ford Cortina half-way through a car wash to illustrate
the Rose Royce song. It was an amazing exercise in literal nonsense.


it's just
that time is the filter that means you only remember the good.
with TOTP 2 you would never get something awful like the ' oh superman '
song that was on top of the pops a couple of months back.

Laurie Anderson? That sounds like fightin' talk!



nope!
this one....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i524U9YfyXs



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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

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On Feb 26, 10:16*pm, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

nope!
this one....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i524U9YfyXs

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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Oh. Thanks. Yeah, thanks for the link. No, honestly.