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Keith[_7_] February 23rd 12 02:36 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
Until Monday evening I could get channels 42 and 45. Come Wednesday, channel
45 disappeared, which means I have lost BBC 1-4, Yesterday, Dave and a bunch
of other TV stations. Channel 42 does not find these "missing" stations.
Location: Wokingham, Berks.
Could this be down to aerial alignment?
My knowledge/expertise here is limited to using the menu options "DVB" and
"auto/manual" for tuning a Panasonic TV with built-in Freeview.
BBC radio 1-3 show up.

Keith



John Hall February 23rd 12 03:21 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
In article ,
Keith writes:
Until Monday evening I could get channels 42 and 45. Come Wednesday, channel
45 disappeared, which means I have lost BBC 1-4, Yesterday, Dave and a bunch
of other TV stations. Channel 42 does not find these "missing" stations.
Location: Wokingham, Berks.
Could this be down to aerial alignment?
My knowledge/expertise here is limited to using the menu options "DVB" and
"auto/manual" for tuning a Panasonic TV with built-in Freeview.
BBC radio 1-3 show up.

Keith



Given your location, it seems likely to be linked to the digital
switchover (DSO) at the Hannington transmitter. If you look at the
"Hannington analogue" thread, you may well find something helpful.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

PeeGee February 23rd 12 08:10 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
On 23/02/12 14:21, John Hall wrote:
In ,
writes:
Until Monday evening I could get channels 42 and 45. Come Wednesday, channel
45 disappeared, which means I have lost BBC 1-4, Yesterday, Dave and a bunch
of other TV stations. Channel 42 does not find these "missing" stations.
Location: Wokingham, Berks.
Could this be down to aerial alignment?
My knowledge/expertise here is limited to using the menu options "DVB" and
"auto/manual" for tuning a Panasonic TV with built-in Freeview.
BBC radio 1-3 show up.

Keith



Given your location, it seems likely to be linked to the digital
switchover (DSO) at the Hannington transmitter. If you look at the
"Hannington analogue" thread, you may well find something helpful.


Doesn't seem to be a direct Hannington problem, as 42 changed from
analogue ITV1 to digital on Wed. Here, a few miles south of Wokingham, I
have reception of digital on 42 and 45 for the first time.

If DAVE was on 42, then it isn't Hannington, but may now be affected by
the change to full power to the east (from nothing!).

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)

Keith[_7_] February 23rd 12 11:16 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 

"PeeGee" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 23/02/12 14:21, John Hall wrote:
In ,
writes:
Until Monday evening I could get channels 42 and 45. Come Wednesday,
channel
45 disappeared, which means I have lost BBC 1-4, Yesterday, Dave and a
bunch
of other TV stations. Channel 42 does not find these "missing" stations.
Location: Wokingham, Berks.
Could this be down to aerial alignment?
My knowledge/expertise here is limited to using the menu options "DVB"
and
"auto/manual" for tuning a Panasonic TV with built-in Freeview.
BBC radio 1-3 show up.

Keith



Given your location, it seems likely to be linked to the digital
switchover (DSO) at the Hannington transmitter. If you look at the
"Hannington analogue" thread, you may well find something helpful.


Doesn't seem to be a direct Hannington problem, as 42 changed from
analogue ITV1 to digital on Wed. Here, a few miles south of Wokingham, I
have reception of digital on 42 and 45 for the first time.

If DAVE was on 42, then it isn't Hannington, but may now be affected by
the change to full power to the east (from nothing!).

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able to
be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)


Well b*gger me, I'm a few miles south of Wokingham. It was about Wednesday
last week that I suddenly got 45 and this Wednesday that 45 disappeared,
along with many of the 42 stations. The latter after just doing a retune.
Manual tuning shows both 42 and 45 with similar signal strengths, but 42 has
high, green signal quality and 45 very low and red quality.

The TV (Panasonic) is set to notify if any new channels are detected, and it
has been doing so since Tuesday/Wednesday of last week. The "Update" option
added them but, then, some channels still in the epg gave "No signal" when
selected. The 'Search' option clears all and creates a new list.

The aerial is pointing WSWish, towards Hannington but is very old and may
not be sufficiently well aligned or of adequate quality for digital
reception.



Davey February 23rd 12 11:28 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:16:11 -0000
"Keith" wrote:


"PeeGee" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 23/02/12 14:21, John Hall wrote:
In ,
writes:
Until Monday evening I could get channels 42 and 45. Come
Wednesday, channel
45 disappeared, which means I have lost BBC 1-4, Yesterday, Dave
and a bunch
of other TV stations. Channel 42 does not find these "missing"
stations. Location: Wokingham, Berks.
Could this be down to aerial alignment?
My knowledge/expertise here is limited to using the menu options
"DVB" and
"auto/manual" for tuning a Panasonic TV with built-in Freeview.
BBC radio 1-3 show up.

Keith



Given your location, it seems likely to be linked to the digital
switchover (DSO) at the Hannington transmitter. If you look at the
"Hannington analogue" thread, you may well find something helpful.


Doesn't seem to be a direct Hannington problem, as 42 changed from
analogue ITV1 to digital on Wed. Here, a few miles south of
Wokingham, I have reception of digital on 42 and 45 for the first
time.

If DAVE was on 42, then it isn't Hannington, but may now be
affected by the change to full power to the east (from nothing!).

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be
able to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug
05)


Well b*gger me, I'm a few miles south of Wokingham. It was about
Wednesday last week that I suddenly got 45 and this Wednesday that 45
disappeared, along with many of the 42 stations. The latter after
just doing a retune. Manual tuning shows both 42 and 45 with similar
signal strengths, but 42 has high, green signal quality and 45 very
low and red quality.

The TV (Panasonic) is set to notify if any new channels are detected,
and it has been doing so since Tuesday/Wednesday of last week. The
"Update" option added them but, then, some channels still in the epg
gave "No signal" when selected. The 'Search' option clears all and
creates a new list.

The aerial is pointing WSWish, towards Hannington but is very old and
may not be sufficiently well aligned or of adequate quality for
digital reception.



Don't say that! You'll have loads of sharks circling with offers for
'Digital Aerials' on special offer.
--
Davey.

Mark Carver February 24th 12 08:16 AM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
Keith wrote:

The aerial is pointing WSWish, towards Hannington but is very old and may
not be sufficiently well aligned or of adequate quality for digital
reception.


How good were the analogue BBC 1, 2 and ITV channel before this month ?

The main PSB muxes (BBC, ITV 1 and 2, C4, C5, HD) now use the same
allocations, and transmitting aerials, so you should be able to receive those.
If you can't, then your aerial system requires attention.

The three COM muxes (Dave, Sky News, ITV 3/4, Shopping ****e) are still
restricted in an easterly direction, and to compound the problem they have
switched to 64QAM, which in layman's terms means they are more difficult to
receive.

They will increase in power and not be restricted in your direction on April
18th, so until then reception of them will be a hit and miss affair in many
locations east of Hannington.

As for scanning, I had a very stubborn Panasonic DVD recorder, that simply
refused to see anything on Wednesday morning, despite stopping at each of
Hannington's muxes for over a minute at a time during a scan. In the end I
gave it a reset back to 'Factory Shipping Condition' and that did the trick.
You might need to do the same with your TV ?


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

Bill Wright[_2_] February 24th 12 10:37 AM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
Mark Carver wrote:

As for scanning, I had a very stubborn Panasonic DVD recorder, that
simply refused to see anything on Wednesday morning, despite stopping at
each of Hannington's muxes for over a minute at a time during a scan. In
the end I gave it a reset back to 'Factory Shipping Condition' and that
did the trick. You might need to do the same with your TV ?


In our leaflets we advise residents using one of our communal systems to
do a 'factory reset', 'shipping condition', or 'factory default' every
time they re-tune.

Bill

Mark[_13_] February 24th 12 12:49 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:37:35 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Mark Carver wrote:

As for scanning, I had a very stubborn Panasonic DVD recorder, that
simply refused to see anything on Wednesday morning, despite stopping at
each of Hannington's muxes for over a minute at a time during a scan. In
the end I gave it a reset back to 'Factory Shipping Condition' and that
did the trick. You might need to do the same with your TV ?


In our leaflets we advise residents using one of our communal systems to
do a 'factory reset', 'shipping condition', or 'factory default' every
time they re-tune.


And don't forget to sacrifice a chicken under a full moon.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?


Mark Carver February 24th 12 01:15 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 
On 24/02/2012 12:04, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:49:26 +0000, Mark
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:37:35 +0000, Bill


In our leaflets we advise residents using one of our communal systems to
do a 'factory reset', 'shipping condition', or 'factory default' every
time they re-tune.


And don't forget to sacrifice a chicken under a full moon.


whilst facing east.


.... or at least away from Guildford.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

Keith[_7_] February 24th 12 01:49 PM

Freeview channel 45 gone
 

"PeeGee" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 23/02/12 22:16, Keith wrote:
wrote in message
o.uk...
On 23/02/12 14:21, John Hall wrote:
In ,
writes:
Until Monday evening I could get channels 42 and 45. Come Wednesday,
channel
45 disappeared, which means I have lost BBC 1-4, Yesterday, Dave and a
bunch
of other TV stations. Channel 42 does not find these "missing"
stations.
Location: Wokingham, Berks.
Could this be down to aerial alignment?
My knowledge/expertise here is limited to using the menu options "DVB"
and
"auto/manual" for tuning a Panasonic TV with built-in Freeview.
BBC radio 1-3 show up.

Keith



Given your location, it seems likely to be linked to the digital
switchover (DSO) at the Hannington transmitter. If you look at the
"Hannington analogue" thread, you may well find something helpful.

Doesn't seem to be a direct Hannington problem, as 42 changed from
analogue ITV1 to digital on Wed. Here, a few miles south of Wokingham, I
have reception of digital on 42 and 45 for the first time.

If DAVE was on 42, then it isn't Hannington, but may now be affected by
the change to full power to the east (from nothing!).

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
to
be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)


Well b*gger me, I'm a few miles south of Wokingham. It was about
Wednesday
last week that I suddenly got 45 and this Wednesday that 45 disappeared,
along with many of the 42 stations. The latter after just doing a retune.
Manual tuning shows both 42 and 45 with similar signal strengths, but 42
has
high, green signal quality and 45 very low and red quality.

The TV (Panasonic) is set to notify if any new channels are detected, and
it
has been doing so since Tuesday/Wednesday of last week. The "Update"
option
added them but, then, some channels still in the epg gave "No signal"
when
selected. The 'Search' option clears all and creates a new list.

The aerial is pointing WSWish, towards Hannington but is very old and may
not be sufficiently well aligned or of adequate quality for digital
reception.



I'm in Frimley :-) You are probably getting a higher signal strength than
me, probably just enough to recognise the channels but not good enough to
maintain a signal - I had that when I tried CP a year or so ago. My set
(Toshiba) auto-tuned 42 on Wed but ignored 41, 44 and 47 (which are still
suppressed until April) and HD on 39. 39 and 42 show roughly the same
strength, 45 is down on these (just above half strength) and the others
are below half strength (from a wide-band aerial). 42 and 45 are "good"
for quality, the rest "poor".

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able to
be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)


I'm much closer to Wokingham and had the aerial on a 20ft mast at roof
height (30-odd years ago) to get analogue reception. Replaced after the
non-gale 20ish years ago(BBC2 and Channel5 barely viewable). Couldn't
receive DVB until earlier this month. Channel 45 came back today with 10
stations, including BBC, and channel 42 still has 8 stations. No Yesterday,
DAVE. Something wrong in the State of DSO?





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