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An astute observation Bill....


Oy. I do those.


--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

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On Dec 30, 10:47*pm, Bill Wright wrote:

The labels 'right' and 'left' are not adequate to categorise all
political opinions. 'Right winger' and 'left winger' are not adequate to
categorise all people.

Yup, but sadly the commoditization of opinion requires pithy 'brands'
so people can be manipul... errr, I mean identify with their fellow
sheep. No! People. I mean unique individuals, definitely not sheep, or
anything implying each persons absolute specialness is a 21st century
interpretation of bread & circuses (coz 'istory dunt matter, innit).

Those who think for themselves are especially
likely to not fit into either category.

Indeed. (Prop. "Wrightwingers"?)

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
It would be nice to know of any true right wing country where there
isn't oppression. Or perhaps you close your eyes when the TV news
comes on?
Compare the old USSR with the USA. Oppression?

How far back do you wish to go? Blacks and native americans never suffered
oppression in the US of A? And still don't?

The US is a fine place to live provided you are in work in a decent job.
If not, it's probably the worst of all the developed countries.

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*Nostalgia isn't what is used to be.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:10:19 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

But, of course, complete ********. They just interfere in different ways.
Compare the old USSR with the USA. State interference with peoples lives?

That's just so untrue it's funny.

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On Friday, December 30th, 2011, at 22:47:19h +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The labels 'right' and 'left' are not adequate to categorise all
political opinions.

10/10 !!!

A better analysis is the 2 dimensional system of authoritarian
versus libertarian and economic left (command state owned economy)
versus economic right (total laissez faire capitalism).

Take a look at

http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010

and you will see that both the BNP and Liberal Democrats
are economically to the left of FauX LaboUr.

What is so bad is that FauX LaboUR is more authoritarian
than either the Conservative and Unionist Party and UKIP,
and that apart from the Liberal Democrats, Greens, and SDLP
the tendency is for parties to be significantly authoritarian.

I would suggest a third dimension, which breaks the authoritarian
versus libertarian category into the social rights and political
rights categories gives an even better, more meaningful analysis
as seen at

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Updated_NS_Graph.png

'Right winger' and 'left winger' are not adequate to
categorise all people.

When you have time, why not take the test at political compasss and
report back your score -- I think it would surprise quite a few on
this group.

http://www.politicalcompass.ORG/test

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J G Miller wrote:

'Right winger' and 'left winger' are not adequate to
categorise all people.

When you have time, why not take the test at political compasss and
report back your score -- I think it would surprise quite a few on
this group.

http://www.politicalcompass.ORG/test

That's really interesting.

Here's mine:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/compass.jpg

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote...

Here's mine:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/compass.jpg

Up against the wall you Thatcherite swine. Er, I mean, come now
brother William; you must reconsider.

?A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes.?

http://goo.gl/4vNla

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Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

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On Jan 3, 11:38*pm, UnsteadyKen wrote:
*Bill Wright wrote...
Here's mine:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/compass.jpg

*Up against the wall you Thatcherite swine. Er, I mean, come now
brother William; you must reconsider.

?A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes.?

http://goo.gl/4vNla


Here's mine:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...7.00&soc=-3.33

Come on Ken, let's get him!

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UnsteadyKen wrote:
Bill Wright wrote...

Here's mine:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/compass.jpg

Up against the wall you Thatcherite swine. Er, I mean, come now
brother William; you must reconsider.

?A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes.?

http://goo.gl/4vNla


I wish I were as libertarian as you. I think it was the toilet training
that did the damage...

Bill

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On Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012, at 23:13:09h +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/compass.jpg

which rates 1.00 / -1.59 and is really quite a centrist
position on both scale.

I am quite surprised that you did not score more highly
libertarian and significantly more to the right economically.

What is clear though is that you are nowhere close to the
location of UKIP or even the BNP.

As you might have suspected, economically I came out well
to the left at -7.12, but I actually scored more libertarian
than you at -2.00, even though on a number of social issues
I would be described as "extremely conservative".

Shame on you for not using Firefox though! ;+)