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Jon Dennington December 8th 11 07:55 PM

Best PVRs?
 
Hi

I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2

Has anyone used/got a PANASONIC DMRHW100 and would they recommend it?

Any other suggestions (need Freeview, twin tuner, 300gb min but HD not
necessary)

Thanks

Vigman

Steve Thackery[_2_] December 9th 11 01:30 AM

Best PVRs?
 
Chris Hogg wrote:

We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.


Ditto. I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT



Jon Dennington December 9th 11 09:36 AM

Best PVRs?
 
On Dec 9, 12:30*am, Steve Thackery wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.


Ditto. *I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. *I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT


Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??

Thanks

Vigman

Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 11 03:05 PM

Best PVRs?
 
In article
,
Jon Dennington wrote:
I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2


I have the Humax HD as an addition to my Toppy SD. I prefer the Toppy
(TAPS) menus - but no big deal. Neither freezes. The internet connectivity
on the Humax is useful.

--
*Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Chris J Dixon December 9th 11 05:10 PM

Best PVRs?
 
Chris Hogg wrote:

AFAICT our Humax 9200 does most, if not all of those. Certainly the
ones that matter, like 'electronic programme guide', 'series link',
'record split programmes' (although it doesn't run them together as
one programme, it just records the two parts separately), 'schedule
changes updated in standby' and 'accurate recording'. I don't recall
it ever offering to record a related programme though, but it does
tell you about a conflict if recordings clash, time-wise, if you try
to record more than two programmes at the same time.

I notice that my 9200, which I have set to pad recordings (and
therefore cannot use 'accurate recording') sometimes fails
inelegantly if the padding causes overlaps.

It only warns if the actual programmes overlap, it ignores the
padding (2 early, 5 over). It seems to manage OK if they are on
the same channel, sometimes ending one marginally early, but
occasionally starts at the padded time, then stops again at the
true start time, somehow giving priority to another recording.

Occasionally it hangs, usually whilst playing back but once or
twice whilst recording. It has also been known to fail to respect
the stop time, and just keep recording. Not too bad overnight,
but filling the disk whilst we were on holiday was not popular.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

..

Peter Duncanson December 9th 11 05:53 PM

Best PVRs?
 
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 00:36:35 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:

On Dec 9, 12:30Â*am, Steve Thackery wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.


Ditto. Â*I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. Â*I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT


Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??

That site seems to call the non-HD boxes "Freeview", even though they
work to the Freeview+ spec and have the Freeview+ logo on the front, and
the HD boxes "Freeview+ HD".


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Jon Dennington December 9th 11 06:12 PM

Best PVRs?
 
On Dec 9, 4:53*pm, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 00:36:35 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington









wrote:
On Dec 9, 12:30*am, Steve Thackery wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.


Ditto. *I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.


Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. *I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.


I believe it's down to two things:


1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.


2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.


Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.


--
SteveT


Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??


That site seems to call the non-HD boxes "Freeview", even though they
work to the Freeview+ spec and have the Freeview+ logo on the front, and
the HD boxes "Freeview+ HD".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)



Glad I read the small print... 8))

Also I have found out that the following Edimix range of wi-fi
adapters should all work with the latest Humax firmware in the T2 as
it is based on the Ralink RT3070 chipset (rather than the 29 quid
Humax one)


EW-7711UTn - Mini-size with built in antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 159
votes)
EW-7711UAn - Mini-size with Built-in high gain 3dBi antenna (Amazon
Rating 4/5 - 218 votes)
EW-7711USn - Normal size with detachable high gain 3dBi detachable
external antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 12 votes)

When you plug a wi-fi dongle into the FOX T2, how do you specify and
type the SSID and WEP codes, please, to join your home network?

TIA

Vigman


Peter Duncanson December 9th 11 07:01 PM

Best PVRs?
 
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:12:37 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:



Also I have found out that the following Edimix range of wi-fi
adapters should all work with the latest Humax firmware in the T2 as
it is based on the Ralink RT3070 chipset (rather than the 29 quid
Humax one)


EW-7711UTn - Mini-size with built in antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 159
votes)
EW-7711UAn - Mini-size with Built-in high gain 3dBi antenna (Amazon
Rating 4/5 - 218 votes)
EW-7711USn - Normal size with detachable high gain 3dBi detachable
external antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 12 votes)

When you plug a wi-fi dongle into the FOX T2, how do you specify and
type the SSID and WEP codes, please, to join your home network?

My guess is that you should first plug the dongle into a computer and
set it up there according to the instructions. Then unplug it and plug
into the Humax.

Quick Install Guide for the EW-7711UTn
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...711UTn-QIG.pdf

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Paul Taylor[_3_] December 10th 11 02:04 AM

Best PVRs?
 
I would recommend the use of the edimax setup wizard that comes with the
device. This is by far the best way to configure these devices, run the
wizard and select "AP Client Mode" and just follow the instructions to
select network and enter the WEP/WPA stuff. This will configure the
Ethernet bridge. i'm using an EW7228Apn which includes a switch so i can
connect to both the humax and my sony tv, works very well. much better than
these power line things that get effected by next doors vacuum cleaner, etc.

paul t

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:12:37 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:



Also I have found out that the following Edimix range of wi-fi
adapters should all work with the latest Humax firmware in the T2 as
it is based on the Ralink RT3070 chipset (rather than the 29 quid
Humax one)


EW-7711UTn - Mini-size with built in antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 159
votes)
EW-7711UAn - Mini-size with Built-in high gain 3dBi antenna (Amazon
Rating 4/5 - 218 votes)
EW-7711USn - Normal size with detachable high gain 3dBi detachable
external antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 12 votes)

When you plug a wi-fi dongle into the FOX T2, how do you specify and
type the SSID and WEP codes, please, to join your home network?

My guess is that you should first plug the dongle into a computer and
set it up there according to the instructions. Then unplug it and plug
into the Humax.

Quick Install Guide for the EW-7711UTn
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...711UTn-QIG.pdf

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)



Chris J Dixon December 10th 11 10:00 AM

Best PVRs?
 
Chris Hogg wrote:

AFAICT our Humax 9200 does most, if not all of those. Certainly the
ones that matter, like 'electronic programme guide', 'series link',
'record split programmes' (although it doesn't run them together as
one programme, it just records the two parts separately), 'schedule
changes updated in standby' and 'accurate recording'. I don't recall
it ever offering to record a related programme though, but it does
tell you about a conflict if recordings clash, time-wise, if you try
to record more than two programmes at the same time.

I notice that my 9200, which I have set to pad recordings (and
therefore cannot use 'accurate recording') sometimes fails
inelegantly if the padding causes overlaps.

It only warns if the actual programmes overlap, it ignores the
padding (2 early, 5 over). It seems to manage OK if they are on
the same channel, sometimes ending one marginally early, but
occasionally starts at the padded time, then stops again at the
true start time, somehow giving priority to another recording.

Occasionally it hangs, usually whilst playing back but once or
twice whilst recording. It has also been known to fail to respect
the stop time, and just keep recording. Not too bad overnight,
but filling the disk whilst we were on holiday was not popular.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Steve Thackery[_2_] December 10th 11 11:15 AM

Best PVRs?
 
Chris J Dixon wrote:

I notice that my 9200, which I have set to pad recordings (and
therefore cannot use 'accurate recording') sometimes fails
inelegantly if the padding causes overlaps.


I no longer use that facility because I've found that the broadcasters
are getting much better and sending the "start" and "finish" signals.

I think on the 9200 you set it to "accurate record" (from memory, I'm
using a Fox).

On the Fox I can't remember the last time I lost the start or end of a
programme.

--
SteveT



Yellow December 10th 11 12:48 PM

Best PVRs?
 
In article f738e3e4-75a5-410e-b0bf-
,
says...

Hi

I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2

Has anyone used/got a PANASONIC DMRHW100 and would they recommend it?

Any other suggestions (need Freeview, twin tuner, 300gb min but HD not
necessary)

Thanks

Vigman


I have two PVRs - a Humax 9200T and a brand new shiny Humax Fox HDR and
I quite literally want to have their babies.

They are smashing bits of kit.

Adrian[_3_] December 10th 11 04:28 PM

Best PVRs?
 
Jon Dennington wrote:
Hi

I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2

Has anyone used/got a PANASONIC DMRHW100 and would they recommend it?

Any other suggestions (need Freeview, twin tuner, 300gb min but HD not
necessary)

Thanks

Vigman


I have a Panasonic recorder with DVD, which I am very happy with. I
would expect the hard drive only model would be just as good.

--
Adrian

Mark[_13_] December 14th 11 04:25 PM

Best PVRs?
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:12:42 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 10:55:03 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:

Hi

I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2

Has anyone used/got a PANASONIC DMRHW100 and would they recommend it?

Any other suggestions (need Freeview, twin tuner, 300gb min but HD not
necessary)


I am more than satisfied with my Humax PVR. It doesn't freeze.


My Humax (9300) doesn't freeze. However it does have a number of
annoying bugs including: not recording the beginning of programmes,
forgetting to record anything, and playback stopping unexpectedly. It
also has some UI irritations too.
--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.


Paul D Smith[_2_] December 14th 11 05:49 PM

Best PVRs?
 
....snip...

I can't update the software on my Humax PVR. The option is permanently
grayed out. The most irritating thing is the EPG supplied by the cable
company which is often wrong. The cable company only provides the next
72 hours


What model is this? I've not come across a "cable" Humax before.

Paul DS.

Paul D Smith[_2_] December 14th 11 05:50 PM

Best PVRs?
 
....snip...
Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??


Is one Freeview+ and the other Freeview HD+? Wouldn't surprise me to find a
high street shop getting mixed up.

Paul DS.



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