Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

larkim wrote:

I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year

Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
they'll be FTA HD?

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit

possible, if you've got an HDMI input spare on the TV

- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to do
with them from what I've read).

- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

messy, TV would probably need a full wipe/scan each time.

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Dunno about that TV, but if you can't see any settings for diseqc
switch/LNB ports in the TV, sounds like that's out too.

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:

- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

messy, TV would probably need a full wipe/scan each time.

Surely you could just manually add the relevant station? The fact
that it is unavailable when the freesat dish is connected, and vice
versa, shouldn't matter.

-- Richard

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 10:19*am, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:

- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

messy, TV would probably need a full wipe/scan each time.

Surely you could just manually add the relevant station? *The fact
that it is unavailable when the freesat dish is connected, and vice
versa, shouldn't matter.

-- Richard

I'm reasonably sure that that would be possible. I can't see the TV
losing all of its settings just because I've unplugged the satellite
cable and replaced it with a different one.

Is there no manual box for doing this? Can't believe there isn't a
manual "select dish" switch, though I admit I've not found one
trawling the web (possibly as I don't know the product name that I
might be searching for!)

As for plugging the provided SD box into the TV, that's trivial as I
believe the box is a scart one (no need for HDMI as it is SD only),
and even if it were HDMI I have a spare slot available.

I was just hoping that there might be a slightly neater solution out
there somewhere.

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

larkim wrote:

To supplement my BBC rations of F1 next year

I hadn't seen the calendar before ...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/2...f1-races-2012/

SO, why did the BBC do such a big feature of the new USA track a few
weeks ago, when they won't be showing that race?

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 10:47*am, Andy Burns wrote:
larkim wrote:
To supplement my BBC rations of F1 next year

I hadn't seen the calendar before ...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/2...air-f1-races-2...

SO, why did the BBC do such a big feature of the new USA track a few
weeks ago, when they won't be showing that race?

Because a) it looked cool and b) at that time they thought the race
would actually be happening (which it now isn't). I also think that
Red Bull set up the promotional filming etc, as the video which the
BBC showed was lifted straight from a red bull promo that I'd seen a
few weeks earlier via the Red Bull website (I think).

And in any event, next year the beeb would be showing highlights of
all GPs, so (if the race was going to be taking place at all) they
would have shown something of it, and sent a team over there to cover
it.

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 10:30*am, larkim wrote:
On Nov 28, 10:19*am, (Richard Tobin) wrote:

In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:

- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

messy, TV would probably need a full wipe/scan each time.

Surely you could just manually add the relevant station? *The fact
that it is unavailable when the freesat dish is connected, and vice
versa, shouldn't matter.

-- Richard

I'm reasonably sure that that would be possible. *I can't see the TV
losing all of its settings just because I've unplugged the satellite
cable and replaced it with a different one.

Is there no manual box for doing this? *Can't believe there isn't a
manual "select dish" switch, though I admit I've not found one
trawling the web (possibly as I don't know the product name that I
might be searching for!)

As for plugging the provided SD box into the TV, that's trivial as I
believe the box is a scart one (no need for HDMI as it is SD only),
and even if it were HDMI I have a spare slot available.

I was just hoping that there might be a slightly neater solution out
there somewhere.

Matt

Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?

http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...html#aABSWITCH

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Andy Burns wrote:
: I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
: BBC rations of F1 next year

: Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
: they'll be FTA HD?

RTL on

SD Only! All sources of HD F1 are encrypted and require a smartcard.

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Brian Mc wrote:

Andy wrote:

: Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
: they'll be FTA HD?

RTL on

SD Only! All sources of HD F1 are encrypted and require a smartcard.

Yes, that's what my digging produced, though apparently you can get an
HD subscription (CAM required obv) for about £99, about a 1/4 of what
the digger wants! I'll probably add a 2nd LNB and put up with SD, or
just watch the highlights ...

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Andy Burns wrote:
: Yes, that's what my digging produced, though apparently you can get an
: HD subscription (CAM required obv) for about £99, about a 1/4 of what
: the digger wants!

A French TNTSAT box might also be an option - but I have not verified this.
With these the smartcard is a small fee for some years - but you have to
buy a matching box (they are paired)

Of course if one has SkyHD (which many subscribers to Sky have!) it is going
to be no extra at all!! (now that Sky SPorts is no longer required)

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Andy Burns wrote:

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to do
with them from what I've read).

Stackers won't help feed 2 dishes into one telly.

Bill

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

larkim wrote:

Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?

http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...html#aABSWITCH

I used a set of them for daily switching of signals (long story). They
lasted five years, or 3650 operations. That should do you.

Switches of sat signals is quite uncritical because when you switch you
kill the line power to the other dish so there's no problem of signal
transfer across the switch. I've used miniature toggles with no problems.

But personally I'd use the receiver that comes with the dish.

Bill

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

larkim wrote:
As for plugging the provided SD box into the TV, that's trivial as I
believe the box is a scart one (no need for HDMI as it is SD only),
and even if it were HDMI I have a spare slot available.

I was just hoping that there might be a slightly neater solution out
there somewhere.

Matt

Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?

http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...html#aABSWITCH

The manual switch should do the job, assuming that the TV can be
configured for more than one satellite, or satellites other than 28E,
but if you're not fussy about picture quality then I would use the
composite video output from the Ross SD receiver, which I think supports
automatic diseqc switching between LNBs.

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

"larkim" wrote in message
...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.

If you only have one feed (e.g. in a flat) then a priority switch will
divert the signal from the TV to the box when it is on, but not when it
isn't ~£10. Some boxes have an IF out which loops the IF back out when the
box is not in use - essentially the same effect, but less insertion loss.

A diseqc switch could be used, but would normally be for more complex
installations (e.g. if you had another dish pointing at 13E for late night
films etc.)

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On 28/11/2011 11:06, Brian Mc wrote:
Andy wrote:
: I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
: BBC rations of F1 next year

: Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
: they'll be FTA HD?

RTL on

SD Only! All sources of HD F1 are encrypted and require a smartcard.
A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Pete

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 1:36*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. *To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. *Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). *The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 12:51*pm, Bill Wright wrote:
larkim wrote:
Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?

http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...witches.html#a...

I used a set of them for daily switching of signals (long story). They
lasted five years, or 3650 operations. That should do you.

Switches of sat signals is quite uncritical because when you switch you
kill the line power to the other dish so there's no problem of signal
transfer across the switch. I've used miniature toggles with no problems.

But personally I'd use the receiver that comes with the dish.

Bill

If they are good enough for you, they are good enough for me to shell
out £7 on and try.

My reason for not using the receiver is simply box / remote clutter.
Neater to have one little unpowered satellite switch pinned to the
back of the cabinet that the TV sits on compared to an ugly little
Ross STB plus naff remote. Also I suspect the PQ might be marginally
better with the TV doing all the work, rather than having the Ross box
do some and then the TV do a little bit more with the component input.

I will give the box a run out though, just to see. All this of course
is entirely hypothetical as it needs Santa to load the £25 dish onto
his sleigh and come down our very small chimney (that's after he's
taken it out of my bedroom and wrapped it up); and then there's the
installation which numpties like me can make a real mess of!!

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

I haven't tried with that type of dish but would be surprised if it
couldn't be made to work. With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

larkim wrote:

I will give the box a run out though, just to see. All this of course
is entirely hypothetical as it needs Santa to load the £25 dish onto
his sleigh and come down our very small chimney (that's after he's
taken it out of my bedroom and wrapped it up); and then there's the
installation which numpties like me can make a real mess of!!

But you've got someone up on the roof already. Why not get him to fit
it for a sherry or two?

Plus carrots of course.

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Not yet/not quite.

My dish is a 60cm 'standard' one, I was going to put a multi-LNB arm on
it straight away, then I had some problems with linux drivers for the
TBS DVB-S2 card (never trust promises that proprietary drivers will be
open sourced, managed to hack it past one kernel uprade then lost
patience) now happily running with a different card on stock kernel,
mythtv happy with HD (had to dedicate a couple of disks to it to get
sufficient throughput) ... now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Bill Wright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to
do with them from what I've read).

Stackers won't help feed 2 dishes into one telly.

Thought they could get two LNBs down one cable, then separate at the
bottom for an A/B switch ... or am I utterly wrong?

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Martin wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
they'll be FTA HD?

Do you really think Sky will offer it free?

Err no. and I don't really expect to find it as FTA HD, I thought the
O/P was hoping for that, but now I see that he (like me) is probably
just after an SD feed for the "sky only" races ...

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Didn't I read somewhere that analogue Eurosport from 19.2E (which
AFAIAA is the only one with English commentary) is switching off in
April next year? Does that alter anyone's plans?

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:44 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Not yet/not quite.

now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?
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Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

"larkim" wrote in message
...
On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

It's £28.68p. Lidl have a box at £30 with HDMI out.


I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

SNIP

Mark

I think you've missed the point - I need to point either two dishes
(and two LNBs) at two different satellites, or point one dish with two
LNBs at two different satellites.

I've gone for the easy route of 2 dishes, therefore 2 LNBs, and just
wanted to find out the simplest way to flick between the two dishes as
needed.

I'm fortunate in that I've got a Freesat HD TV, with a dish which was
installed for Sky by previous occupants, but I actually watch most TV
through my Freeview HD 3view box, so I don't often use the Freesat HD
signal.

I have a steerable dish and a receiver to drive it and an LG Freesat HD TV.

The TV has two satellite modes - Freesat (only fixed Freesat channels
available) and generic where hundreds of channels are visible on 28E,
including any HD ones (but only Luxe HD for a while), so assuming the Panny
is similar, you could use this for 28E and sat receiver for 19E to watch
RTL or whatever.

If you can use a bigger or ovate dish then you could have two LNB's on the
same dish, but alignment can be tricky.


I could have simply re-pointed the existing dish at 19.2E instead, but
I like to have the best of all worlds, so didn't want to lose my
Freesat HD signal.

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:40:57 -0800 (PST), larkim
wrote:

I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

I've been thinking of exactly the same kind of thing. Is the B&Q offer
"in shop" only or is there a web link?

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to
do with them from what I've read).

Stackers won't help feed 2 dishes into one telly.

Thought they could get two LNBs down one cable, then separate at the
bottom for an A/B switch ... or am I utterly wrong?

Well yes that's right, but I thought the problem was getting the two
sets of signals into the TV, having got them into the living room... or
am I utterly wrong?

Bill

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On 28/11/2011 14:33, Pete Shew wrote:
On 28/11/2011 11:06, Brian Mc wrote:
Andy wrote:
: I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
: BBC rations of F1 next year

: Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
: they'll be FTA HD?

RTL on

SD Only! All sources of HD F1 are encrypted and require a smartcard.
A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Pete

I suggest reading the digitalspy forums. Lots of discussion on this
subject.

--
Michael Chare

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On 28/11/2011 14:40, larkim wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark
wrote:
wrote in message

...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.

If you only have one feed (e.g. in a flat) then a priority switch will
divert the signal from the TV to the box when it is on, but not when it
isn't ~£10. Some boxes have an IF out which loops the IF back out when the
box is not in use - essentially the same effect, but less insertion loss.

A diseqc switch could be used, but would normally be for more complex
installations (e.g. if you had another dish pointing at 13E for late night
films etc.)

Mark

I think you've missed the point - I need to point either two dishes
(and two LNBs) at two different satellites, or point one dish with two
LNBs at two different satellites.

I've gone for the easy route of 2 dishes, therefore 2 LNBs, and just
wanted to find out the simplest way to flick between the two dishes as
needed.

I'm fortunate in that I've got a Freesat HD TV, with a dish which was
installed for Sky by previous occupants, but I actually watch most TV
through my Freeview HD 3view box, so I don't often use the Freesat HD
signal.

I could have simply re-pointed the existing dish at 19.2E instead, but
I like to have the best of all worlds, so didn't want to lose my
Freesat HD signal.


I bought a simple A/B switch from maplins which would do what you want
so long as your Panasonic will let you add the 12187 V 27500 transponder
for RTL and is otherwise happy with non Freesat channels such as CNC
World (maybe CNN as well.)







--
Michael Chare

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 7:40*pm, Java Jive wrote:
Didn't I read somewhere that analogue Eurosport from 19.2E (which
AFAIAA is the only one with English commentary) is switching off in
April next year? *Does that alter anyone's plans?

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:44 +0000, Andy Burns

wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Not yet/not quite.

now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?

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planning on using analogue.

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Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 7:46*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

...
On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:

"larkim" wrote in message

....
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

It's £28.68p. Lidl have a box at £30 with HDMI out.

Actually, no it was £24.99 - I have actually bought and paid for it.

Matt

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

On Nov 28, 8:16*pm, Michael Chare [email protected]
wrote:
On 28/11/2011 14:40, larkim wrote:









On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark
wrote:
*wrote in message

....
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. *To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. *Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). *The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.

If you only have one feed (e.g. in a flat) then a priority switch will
divert the signal from the TV to the box when it is on, but not when it
isn't ~£10. *Some boxes have an IF out which loops the IF back out when the
box is not in use - essentially the same effect, but less insertion loss.

A diseqc switch could be used, but would normally be for more complex
installations (e.g. if you had another dish pointing at 13E for late night
films etc.)

Mark

I think you've missed the point - I need to point either two dishes
(and two LNBs) at two different satellites, or point one dish with two
LNBs at two different satellites.

I've gone for the easy route of 2 dishes, therefore 2 LNBs, and just
wanted to find out the simplest way to flick between the two dishes as
needed.

I'm fortunate in that I've got a Freesat HD TV, with a dish which was
installed for Sky by previous occupants, but I actually watch most TV
through my Freeview HD 3view box, so I don't often use the Freesat HD
signal.

I could have simply re-pointed the existing dish at 19.2E instead, but
I like to have the best of all worlds, so didn't want to lose my
Freesat HD signal.

I bought a simple A/B switch from maplins which would do what you want
so long as your Panasonic will let you add the 12187 V 27500 transponder
for RTL and is otherwise happy with non Freesat channels such as CNC
World (maybe CNN as well.)

--
Michael Chare

Manual tuning is fine - I use it to get the BBC "interactive" streams
mainly. Almost certain I should have no problem tuning into anything
I can make the dish point at.

Matt

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On Nov 28, 7:54*pm, A.N.Other wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:40:57 -0800 (PST), larkim









wrote:
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. *To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

I've been thinking of exactly the same kind of thing. Is the B&Q offer
"in shop" only or is there a web link?

Both I believe. But I was just walking on past so picked it up. Just
tried the website and I can't see the offer on there; sure I could see
it a few days ago.

Matt

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On Nov 28, 8:32*pm, larkim wrote:
On Nov 28, 7:46*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote: "larkim" wrote in message

...
On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:

"larkim" wrote in message

....
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

It's £28.68p. Lidl have a box at £30 with HDMI out.

Actually, no it was £24.99 - I have actually bought and paid for it.

Matt

I see the offer appears to have disappeared online. I have got a kit
including dish, LNB, STB, cables, fixings etc for £24.99.

Matt

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Andy Burns wrote:
My dish is a 60cm 'standard' one, I was going to put a multi-LNB arm on
it straight away, then I had some problems with linux drivers for the
TBS DVB-S2 card (never trust promises that proprietary drivers will be
open sourced, managed to hack it past one kernel uprade then lost
patience) now happily running with a different card on stock kernel,
mythtv happy with HD (had to dedicate a couple of disks to it to get
sufficient throughput) ... now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?

The usual choice for the third LNB on a 60cm dish is Hotbird at 13 E.
Well over 500 FTA channels, many Italian, but otherwise a very diverse
selection. I don't know how many of those you would want to watch, but
with LNBs costing only a fiver, it works out at a penny per channel.

I would advise getting a four-way DiSEqC switch, just in case.

--
John L

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John Legon wrote:

The usual choice for the third LNB on a 60cm dish is Hotbird at 13 E.
I would advise getting a four-way DiSEqC switch, just in case.

Yeah I think I might as well, I've currently got a quad LNB on 28.2,
which has two spare outputs (already wired) so might as well add two
more single LNBs on a 4x1 switch and move one of the spare outputs to
it, can't see the stuff on other sats being so popular that I'll want to
watch one while recording another etc, so no point going wild with dual
LNBs and two switches ...

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On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

I haven't tried with that type of dish but would be surprised if it
couldn't be made to work. With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.
Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.

Pete

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Pete Shew wrote:

On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:

With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.

Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.

But if that works, I think you'll struggle to find multi-LNB brackets
for a mini dish

Of course, you could go the gaffer tape route ...

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/p...ni-dishes.html

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:47:54 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

larkim wrote:

To supplement my BBC rations of F1 next year

I hadn't seen the calendar before ...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/2...f1-races-2012/

SO, why did the BBC do such a big feature of the new USA track a few
weeks ago, when they won't be showing that race?

AIUI, nobody will be showing races from the new US circuit
--
Cheers

Peter

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On 29/11/2011 09:31, Andy Burns wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:

With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.

Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.

But if that works, I think you'll struggle to find multi-LNB brackets
for a mini dish

Of course, you could go the gaffer tape route ...

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/p...ni-dishes.html

I've just found this
http://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/233628-28e-13e-zone-2-a.html. Its seems
he is in Scotland, so provided I can get the LNBs to fit close together
it should work near the Humber.

Pete

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Andy Burns wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:

With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.

Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.

I hope you get a result...

But if that works, I think you'll struggle to find multi-LNB brackets
for a mini dish

I've just taken this photo of the bracket I made from a few bits of
scrap metal for the LNBs on my fixed dish:

http://www.john-legon.co.uk/temp/lnbs.jpg

The angled rail on the left side is slotted to allow for adjustment of
the two added LNBs.