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larkim November 28th 11 09:33 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On Nov 28, 8:16*pm, Michael Chare [email protected]
wrote:
On 28/11/2011 14:40, larkim wrote:









On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark
wrote:
*wrote in message


....
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. *To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.


I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch


I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.


Cheers for any help!


Matt


The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. *Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). *The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.


If you only have one feed (e.g. in a flat) then a priority switch will
divert the signal from the TV to the box when it is on, but not when it
isn't ~£10. *Some boxes have an IF out which loops the IF back out when the
box is not in use - essentially the same effect, but less insertion loss.


A diseqc switch could be used, but would normally be for more complex
installations (e.g. if you had another dish pointing at 13E for late night
films etc.)


Mark


I think you've missed the point - I need to point either two dishes
(and two LNBs) at two different satellites, or point one dish with two
LNBs at two different satellites.


I've gone for the easy route of 2 dishes, therefore 2 LNBs, and just
wanted to find out the simplest way to flick between the two dishes as
needed.


I'm fortunate in that I've got a Freesat HD TV, with a dish which was
installed for Sky by previous occupants, but I actually watch most TV
through my Freeview HD 3view box, so I don't often use the Freesat HD
signal.


I could have simply re-pointed the existing dish at 19.2E instead, but
I like to have the best of all worlds, so didn't want to lose my
Freesat HD signal.


I bought a simple A/B switch from maplins which would do what you want
so long as your Panasonic will let you add the 12187 V 27500 transponder
for RTL and is otherwise happy with non Freesat channels such as CNC
World (maybe CNN as well.)

--
Michael Chare


Manual tuning is fine - I use it to get the BBC "interactive" streams
mainly. Almost certain I should have no problem tuning into anything
I can make the dish point at.

Matt

larkim November 28th 11 09:36 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On Nov 28, 7:54*pm, A.N.Other wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:40:57 -0800 (PST), larkim









wrote:
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. *To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.


I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch


I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.


Cheers for any help!


Matt


I've been thinking of exactly the same kind of thing. Is the B&Q offer
"in shop" only or is there a web link?


Both I believe. But I was just walking on past so picked it up. Just
tried the website and I can't see the offer on there; sure I could see
it a few days ago.

Matt

larkim November 28th 11 09:37 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On Nov 28, 8:32*pm, larkim wrote:
On Nov 28, 7:46*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote: "larkim" wrote in message

...
On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


"larkim" wrote in message


....
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.


It's £28.68p. Lidl have a box at £30 with HDMI out.


Actually, no it was £24.99 - I have actually bought and paid for it.

Matt


I see the offer appears to have disappeared online. I have got a kit
including dish, LNB, STB, cables, fixings etc for £24.99.

Matt

John Legon November 29th 11 05:00 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
Andy Burns wrote:
My dish is a 60cm 'standard' one, I was going to put a multi-LNB arm on
it straight away, then I had some problems with linux drivers for the
TBS DVB-S2 card (never trust promises that proprietary drivers will be
open sourced, managed to hack it past one kernel uprade then lost
patience) now happily running with a different card on stock kernel,
mythtv happy with HD (had to dedicate a couple of disks to it to get
sufficient throughput) ... now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?


The usual choice for the third LNB on a 60cm dish is Hotbird at 13 E.
Well over 500 FTA channels, many Italian, but otherwise a very diverse
selection. I don't know how many of those you would want to watch, but
with LNBs costing only a fiver, it works out at a penny per channel.

I would advise getting a four-way DiSEqC switch, just in case.

--
John L

Andy Burns[_7_] November 29th 11 09:38 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
John Legon wrote:

The usual choice for the third LNB on a 60cm dish is Hotbird at 13 E.
I would advise getting a four-way DiSEqC switch, just in case.


Yeah I think I might as well, I've currently got a quad LNB on 28.2,
which has two spare outputs (already wired) so might as well add two
more single LNBs on a 4x1 switch and move one of the spare outputs to
it, can't see the stuff on other sats being so popular that I'll want to
watch one while recording another etc, so no point going wild with dual
LNBs and two switches ...


Pete Shew November 29th 11 10:18 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?


I haven't tried with that type of dish but would be surprised if it
couldn't be made to work. With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.

Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.

Pete

Andy Burns[_7_] November 29th 11 10:31 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
Pete Shew wrote:

On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:

With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.


Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.


But if that works, I think you'll struggle to find multi-LNB brackets
for a mini dish

Of course, you could go the gaffer tape route ...

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/p...ni-dishes.html

Peter[_10_] November 29th 11 11:24 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:47:54 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

larkim wrote:

To supplement my BBC rations of F1 next year


I hadn't seen the calendar before ...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/2...f1-races-2012/

SO, why did the BBC do such a big feature of the new USA track a few
weeks ago, when they won't be showing that race?


AIUI, nobody will be showing races from the new US circuit
--
Cheers

Peter

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Pete Shew November 29th 11 11:46 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On 29/11/2011 09:31, Andy Burns wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:

With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.


Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.


But if that works, I think you'll struggle to find multi-LNB brackets
for a mini dish

Of course, you could go the gaffer tape route ...

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/p...ni-dishes.html

I've just found this
http://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/233628-28e-13e-zone-2-a.html. Its seems
he is in Scotland, so provided I can get the LNBs to fit close together
it should work near the Humber.

Pete

John Legon November 29th 11 11:49 AM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
Andy Burns wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

On 28/11/2011 16:36, John Legon wrote:

With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.


Thanks for that. That is a simple, no cost experiment. Easy to do too as
the dish is near the ground on a pole in the garden.


I hope you get a result...

But if that works, I think you'll struggle to find multi-LNB brackets
for a mini dish


I've just taken this photo of the bracket I made from a few bits of
scrap metal for the LNBs on my fixed dish:

http://www.john-legon.co.uk/temp/lnbs.jpg

The angled rail on the left side is slotted to allow for adjustment of
the two added LNBs.


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