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Bill Wright[_2_] November 28th 11 01:46 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
Andy Burns wrote:

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to do
with them from what I've read).


Stackers won't help feed 2 dishes into one telly.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] November 28th 11 01:51 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
larkim wrote:

Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?

http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...html#aABSWITCH


I used a set of them for daily switching of signals (long story). They
lasted five years, or 3650 operations. That should do you.

Switches of sat signals is quite uncritical because when you switch you
kill the line power to the other dish so there's no problem of signal
transfer across the switch. I've used miniature toggles with no problems.

But personally I'd use the receiver that comes with the dish.

Bill

John Legon November 28th 11 02:09 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
larkim wrote:
As for plugging the provided SD box into the TV, that's trivial as I
believe the box is a scart one (no need for HDMI as it is SD only),
and even if it were HDMI I have a spare slot available.

I was just hoping that there might be a slightly neater solution out
there somewhere.

Matt


Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?

http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...html#aABSWITCH


The manual switch should do the job, assuming that the TV can be
configured for more than one satellite, or satellites other than 28E,
but if you're not fussy about picture quality then I would use the
composite video output from the Ross SD receiver, which I think supports
automatic diseqc switching between LNBs.

R. Mark Clayton November 28th 11 02:36 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 

"larkim" wrote in message
...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.

If you only have one feed (e.g. in a flat) then a priority switch will
divert the signal from the TV to the box when it is on, but not when it
isn't ~£10. Some boxes have an IF out which loops the IF back out when the
box is not in use - essentially the same effect, but less insertion loss.

A diseqc switch could be used, but would normally be for more complex
installations (e.g. if you had another dish pointing at 13E for late night
films etc.)



Pete Shew November 28th 11 03:33 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On 28/11/2011 11:06, Brian Mc wrote:
Andy wrote:
: I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
: BBC rations of F1 next year

: Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
: they'll be FTA HD?

RTL on

SD Only! All sources of HD F1 are encrypted and require a smartcard.

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Pete

larkim November 28th 11 03:40 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On Nov 28, 1:36*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. *To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. *Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). *The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.


larkim November 28th 11 04:32 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
On Nov 28, 12:51*pm, Bill Wright wrote:
larkim wrote:
Answering my own Q - is this what I would need to manually flick
between two different LNBs / dishes?


http://www.multimediasystems.co.uk/a...witches.html#a...


I used a set of them for daily switching of signals (long story). They
lasted five years, or 3650 operations. That should do you.

Switches of sat signals is quite uncritical because when you switch you
kill the line power to the other dish so there's no problem of signal
transfer across the switch. I've used miniature toggles with no problems.

But personally I'd use the receiver that comes with the dish.

Bill


If they are good enough for you, they are good enough for me to shell
out £7 on and try.

My reason for not using the receiver is simply box / remote clutter.
Neater to have one little unpowered satellite switch pinned to the
back of the cabinet that the TV sits on compared to an ugly little
Ross STB plus naff remote. Also I suspect the PQ might be marginally
better with the TV doing all the work, rather than having the Ross box
do some and then the TV do a little bit more with the component input.

I will give the box a run out though, just to see. All this of course
is entirely hypothetical as it needs Santa to load the £25 dish onto
his sleigh and come down our very small chimney (that's after he's
taken it out of my bedroom and wrapped it up); and then there's the
installation which numpties like me can make a real mess of!!

Matt

John Legon November 28th 11 05:36 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?


I haven't tried with that type of dish but would be surprised if it
couldn't be made to work. With the dish securely fixed, you could try
taking off the present LNB and moving it roughly 7 cm to the right
(facing the dish) and down about 1 cm. If you can get a signal using a
satellite finder then it's probably coming from 19.2 E.

Norman Wells[_7_] November 28th 11 06:44 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
larkim wrote:

I will give the box a run out though, just to see. All this of course
is entirely hypothetical as it needs Santa to load the £25 dish onto
his sleigh and come down our very small chimney (that's after he's
taken it out of my bedroom and wrapped it up); and then there's the
installation which numpties like me can make a real mess of!!


But you've got someone up on the roof already. Why not get him to fit
it for a sherry or two?

Plus carrots of course.




Andy Burns[_7_] November 28th 11 08:26 PM

Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV
 
Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?


Not yet/not quite.

My dish is a 60cm 'standard' one, I was going to put a multi-LNB arm on
it straight away, then I had some problems with linux drivers for the
TBS DVB-S2 card (never trust promises that proprietary drivers will be
open sourced, managed to hack it past one kernel uprade then lost
patience) now happily running with a different card on stock kernel,
mythtv happy with HD (had to dedicate a couple of disks to it to get
sufficient throughput) ... now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?



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