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Oh dear what a cock-up!
Bill |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100
Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? -- Davey. |
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"Davey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. |
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On 10/09/2011 11:11 PM, Rick wrote:
"Davey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. i got the impression they could hear it in the hall, it just wasn't connected to the bbc. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
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Rick wrote:
Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. Not quite correct. The substitute was clearly working OK for FOH, but they didn't manage to route it to the broadcast feed. After the second swap, there was an initial period where it was only FOH, but then came through on broadcast. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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You just cannot rely on this modern crap these days. Are you sure thera are
such things as engineers? Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Rick" wrote in message ... "Davey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:08:05 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Rick wrote: Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. Not quite correct. The substitute was clearly working OK for FOH, but they didn't manage to route it to the broadcast feed. After the second swap, there was an initial period where it was only FOH, but then came through on broadcast. Chris The conductor was just audible at full volume - that required some rapid work on the control at mics were changed in case it came through full blast. Some fumbling and cursing involved due to amount of lager in the way. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... You just cannot rely on this modern crap these days. Live Aid 1985? |
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. Not quite correct. The substitute was clearly working OK for FOH, but they didn't manage to route it to the broadcast feed. After the second swap, there was an initial period where it was only FOH, but then came through on broadcast. Was the loud clunk the noise of the mic being plugged into the BBC, or the penny dropping in the sound man's head as he realised that the problem wasn't with the second mic? ;-) |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:11:43 +0100, "Rick" wrote:
Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. In 'the good old days' nobody bothered with radio mics. Given the number of mics scattered around the performing area, why did they need one? -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:11:43 +0100
"Rick" wrote: "Davey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. Ooops! -- Davey. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:59:35 +0100, Alan White
wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:11:43 +0100, "Rick" wrote: Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. It worked fine on PA. Just programme sound that didn't have the feed for whatever reason. Same on Radio 3, although they were much sharper at getting the third mic. faded up than TV were. In 'the good old days' nobody bothered with radio mics. Given the number of mics scattered around the performing area, why did they need one? There should have been a cabled spare at the very least. I'm sure they used to use two on stalks of some sort. It is just foolhardy to rely on a single radio mic. for something so vital to proceedings. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:05:35 +0100, Rick wrote:
You just cannot rely on this modern crap these days. Live Aid 1985? And the jubilee concert 2002 at Buck Hice. |
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"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:59:35 +0100, Alan White wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:11:43 +0100, "Rick" wrote: Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. It worked fine on PA. Just programme sound that didn't have the feed for whatever reason. Same on Radio 3, although they were much sharper at getting the third mic. faded up than TV were. In 'the good old days' nobody bothered with radio mics. Given the number of mics scattered around the performing area, why did they need one? There should have been a cabled spare at the very least. I'm sure they used to use two on stalks of some sort. It is just foolhardy to rely on a single radio mic. for something so vital to proceedings. It was beginning to get a bit like a Norman Collier routine :-) |
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In message , Davey
wrote On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Why, what happened? The BBC found out that it is not a good idea to let Meja students handle the sound equipment. They replaced the faulty microphone a couple of times with another faulty microphone .... and then someone discovered the switch in the wrong position. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Maybe the sub line should have been Last plight of the Proms?
Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:19:16 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Maybe the sub line should have been Last plight of the Proms? Given the lousy audio quality and balance, the dire vision presentation, with no shot lasting longer than three seconds and often without relevance to the music and Katie Derham's patronising delivery and who is obviously paid by the number of times she uses the phrase "at the BBC Proms", thank goodness it was the Last Plight. We know we're at the bloody BBC Proms because it's plastered all over the walls of the RAH and that's what we've chosen to watch. I gave up at 10:15 and went to bed. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather |
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"Alan White" wrote in message
... On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:19:16 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Maybe the sub line should have been Last plight of the Proms? Given the lousy audio quality and balance, the dire vision presentation, with no shot lasting longer than three seconds and often without relevance to the music and Katie Derham's patronising delivery and who is obviously paid by the number of times she uses the phrase "at the BBC Proms", thank goodness it was the Last Plight. We know we're at the bloody BBC Proms because it's plastered all over the walls of the RAH and that's what we've chosen to watch. I gave up at 10:15 and went to bed. ------------------------------------------------------- I can remember when they were the "Henry Wood Promenade Concerts". -- Max Demian |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:12:17 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote: I can remember when they were the "Henry Wood Promenade Concerts". So can I. Happy days. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather |
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"Rick" wrote in message
... "Davey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. Are you supposed to hear the conductor? I know there was that Radio 1 quiz contestant who answered that the orchestra lead played the baton, but really ;-). Paul DS. |
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On Sep 12, 12:42*pm, Alan wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:26:19 +0200, Martin wrote: They still are http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/faqs.shtml "Q: What is the Proms Archive? A: The Proms Archive is a complete list of all Henry Wood Promenade Concerts from 1895 to the present. The database contains composers, repertoire, artists, venues, dates and times." Thanks, Martin, for that. A quick search on Adrian Boult brought back some happy memories. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland. Webcam and weather:-http://windycroft.co.uk/weather Were they allowed to play Elgar this time, or did the Septics make them play Barber's Adagio for Strings instead, like they did ten years ago? I stopped watching the Proms after that, there's no place in a democracy for politicians to dictate concert programmes, that's what happened in the USSR and Nazi Germany. |
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In message , Paul D Smith
writes " Are you supposed to hear the conductor? I immediately thought of Wimbledon, where you hear the loud grunts of the tennis players. You might get the same from the conductor during the more animated musical passages. -- Ian |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:29:30 +0100, "Paul D Smith"
wrote: "Rick" wrote in message ... "Davey" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:41:46 +0100 Bill Wright wrote: Oh dear what a cock-up! Bill Why, what happened? Conductors radio mic was intermittent, then sound engineer handed him one that didn't appear to work at all. Are you supposed to hear the conductor? Not normally, but during the LNoTP the conductor talks to the audience. I know there was that Radio 1 quiz contestant who answered that the orchestra lead played the baton, but really ;-). Paul DS. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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alexander.keys1 wrote:
Were they allowed to play Elgar this time, or did the Septics make them play Barber's Adagio for Strings instead, like they did ten years ago? Did that actually happen? Bill |
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Bill Wright wrote:
alexander.keys1 wrote: Were they allowed to play Elgar this time, or did the Septics make them play Barber's Adagio for Strings instead, like they did ten years ago? Did that actually happen? Bill Ohh, I remember now! I remember it well. It was because of 9/11. Bill |
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I have to say I found the Britten arrangement of the National
Anthem quite moving, but what the heck was Susan Bullock doing with Rule Britannia apart from murder it? For that matter what happened to the rest of the Sea Songs - although I must admit I did enjoy the YPGTTO with the script. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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"Woody" wrote in message ... I have to say I found the Britten arrangement of the National Anthem quite moving, but what the heck was Susan Bullock doing with Rule Britannia apart from murder it? Absolutely. She's very much a Wagnerian and I enjoyed that in the earlier part on BBC2, but much of what she sang later had my teeth on edge. |
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In article ,
Woody writes: I have to say I found the Britten arrangement of the National Anthem quite moving, but what the heck was Susan Bullock doing with Rule Britannia apart from murder it? For that matter what happened to the rest of the Sea Songs - although I must admit I did enjoy the YPGTTO with the script. They don't include the "Fantasia on British Sea Songs" every year, more's the pity. -- John Hall "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." Winston S Churchill (1874-1965) |
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Alan White writes: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:26:19 +0200, Martin wrote: They still are http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/faqs.shtml "Q: What is the Proms Archive? A: The Proms Archive is a complete list of all Henry Wood Promenade Concerts from 1895 to the present. The database contains composers, repertoire, artists, venues, dates and times." Thanks, Martin, for that. A quick search on Adrian Boult brought back some happy memories. I'm old enough to remember when the conductor for the Last Night was always Sir Malcolm Sargent. This year's Last Night broadcast included a fascinating brief bit of archive film from 1946 showing Sargent conducting "A Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra". He didn't look any younger then than I remember him looking some twenty years later. -- John Hall "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." Winston S Churchill (1874-1965) |
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"John Hall" wrote in message
... In article , Alan White writes: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:26:19 +0200, Martin wrote: They still are http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/faqs.shtml "Q: What is the Proms Archive? A: The Proms Archive is a complete list of all Henry Wood Promenade Concerts from 1895 to the present. The database contains composers, repertoire, artists, venues, dates and times." Thanks, Martin, for that. A quick search on Adrian Boult brought back some happy memories. I'm old enough to remember when the conductor for the Last Night was always Sir Malcolm Sargent. This year's Last Night broadcast included a fascinating brief bit of archive film from 1946 showing Sargent conducting "A Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra". He didn't look any younger then than I remember him looking some twenty years later. -- Flash Harry was undoubtedly the greatest - none of this shoving Rule Britannia up a tone or three so that people could sing it more easily! But for my money the two best that I remember were James Loughran (who ISTR introduced Auld Lang Syne) and Andrew Davis with his impish sense of humour. If Edward Gardner gets a bit more personal confidence (his body language of folded arms showed serious nervousness) and some good humorous scriptwriters I suspect he will develop into one of the best as well. I have to say however if you wanted to see someone really having a good time it had to be Lang Lang. What a performer!! -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:04:43 +0100, John Hall
wrote: I'm old enough to remember when the conductor for the Last Night was always Sir Malcolm Sargent. This year's Last Night broadcast included a fascinating brief bit of archive film from 1946 showing Sargent conducting "A Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra". He didn't look any younger then than I remember him looking some twenty years later. I remember watching that film at school... -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather |
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So can I Have you ever been under the stage at the RAH, Its a bit low. Beams
that hit you on the head. However some of the dressing rooms have the floor hollowed out to allow one to stand up. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Max Demian" wrote in message ... "Alan White" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:19:16 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Maybe the sub line should have been Last plight of the Proms? Given the lousy audio quality and balance, the dire vision presentation, with no shot lasting longer than three seconds and often without relevance to the music and Katie Derham's patronising delivery and who is obviously paid by the number of times she uses the phrase "at the BBC Proms", thank goodness it was the Last Plight. We know we're at the bloody BBC Proms because it's plastered all over the walls of the RAH and that's what we've chosen to watch. I gave up at 10:15 and went to bed. ------------------------------------------------------- I can remember when they were the "Henry Wood Promenade Concerts". -- Max Demian |
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On 11/09/2011 08:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
You just cannot rely on this modern crap these days. Are you sure thera are such things as engineers? Brian All done by computers these days, I thought! |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:07:28 -0700 (PDT), "alexander.keys1"
wrote: Were they allowed to play Elgar this time, or did the Septics make them play Barber's Adagio for Strings instead, like they did ten years ago? I stopped watching the Proms after that, there's no place in a democracy for politicians to dictate concert programmes, that's what happened in the USSR and Nazi Germany. I'm convinced Elgar wrote that as a ****take, you know. The very name gives it away. |
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On 12/09/2011 22:24, Brian Gaff wrote:
So can I Have you ever been under the stage at the RAH, Its a bit low. Beams that hit you on the head. However some of the dressing rooms have the floor hollowed out to allow one to stand up. Brian I sang there as a young teenager, as a member of a church choir. What I remember is the cold and noisy changing rooms back of stage. |
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