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BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article Ah, so BBC management will continue to consist solely of two dimensional personas? |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:55:32 GMT, "itsonlyme"
wrote: On 13-Jul-2011, J G Miller wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver wrote: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article Ah, so BBC management will continue to consist solely of two dimensional personas? I am not going to pay £225 to read this article. I will wait until the information turns up somewhere else Malcolm I'm thinking the original poster may have forgotten something in the quote. It's definitely not worth £225 in its present form. Steve -- Neural network software applications, help and support. Neural Planner Software www.NPSL1.com |
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
I'm thinking the original poster may have forgotten something in the quote. It's definitely not worth £225 in its present form. Well, I can't provide a direct quote without possibly breaching copyright, but actually there's not much more info anyway. Danielle Nagler is leaving the Beeb later this year (not to be replaced) to join a firm a lawyers, and the Beeb have also said today that BBC HD will be converted into BBC 2 HD. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On 13/07/2011 5:24 PM, Mark Carver wrote:
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I'm thinking the original poster may have forgotten something in the quote. It's definitely not worth £225 in its present form. Well, I can't provide a direct quote without possibly breaching copyright, but actually there's not much more info anyway. Danielle Nagler is leaving the Beeb later this year (not to be replaced) to join a firm a lawyers, and the Beeb have also said today that BBC HD will be converted into BBC 2 HD. which could mean we end up watching non HD bbc 2 shows upscaled while bbc 3 and 4 HD shows we currently see on BBC HD go unseen until some point in the future if repeated. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
itsonlyme wrote:
On 13-Jul-2011, J G Miller wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver wrote: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article Ah, so BBC management will continue to consist solely of two dimensional personas? I am not going to pay £225 to read this article. I will wait until the information turns up somewhere else Malcolm Do a Google 'News' search for 'BBC2HD' and all will be revealed. |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:35:10 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote: On 13/07/2011 5:24 PM, Mark Carver wrote: Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I'm thinking the original poster may have forgotten something in the quote. It's definitely not worth £225 in its present form. Well, I can't provide a direct quote without possibly breaching copyright, but actually there's not much more info anyway. Danielle Nagler is leaving the Beeb later this year (not to be replaced) to join a firm a lawyers, and the Beeb have also said today that BBC HD will be converted into BBC 2 HD. which could mean we end up watching non HD bbc 2 shows upscaled while bbc 3 and 4 HD shows we currently see on BBC HD go unseen until some point in the future if repeated. Or conversely they could put the HD stuff on BBC2. Was there not a suggestion coming from the Trust that the way the programmes were divided into channels might change, with possibly a reduction from four to three? At the moment four seem unnecessary as BBC4 seems to show all the programmes twice an evening and BBC3 keeps showing the same programmes such as Family Guy and Dr Who over and over again. |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
"pqtek" wrote in message ... itsonlyme wrote: Do a Google 'News' search for 'BBC2HD' and all will be revealed. Your search - BBC2HD - did not match any documents. Regards David |
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Scott wrote:
Or conversely they could put the HD stuff on BBC2. Was there not a suggestion coming from the Trust that the way the programmes were divided into channels might change, with possibly a reduction from four to three? At the moment four seem unnecessary as BBC4 seems to show all the programmes twice an evening and BBC3 keeps showing the same programmes such as Family Guy and Dr Who over and over again. Actually, it seems Broadcast mag may have got carried away ? Post 6 onwards he- http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1503271 -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article And what about BBC2 Scotland? I assume the change will not take place until the facility for the 'nations' to broadcast in HD is implemented. |
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David wrote:
"pqtek" wrote in message ... itsonlyme wrote: Do a Google 'News' search for 'BBC2HD' and all will be revealed. Your search - BBC2HD - did not match any documents. Regards David http://www.google.co.uk/ Enter BBC2HD Click 'News' on the Black Line at top of page. |
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pqtek wrote:
David wrote: "pqtek" wrote in message ... itsonlyme wrote: Do a Google 'News' search for 'BBC2HD' and all will be revealed. Your search - BBC2HD - did not match any documents. Regards David http://www.google.co.uk/ Enter BBC2HD Click 'News' on the Black Line at top of page. And you get this:- http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-planned/5029807.article With the text changed to back peddle saying, BBC HD will *move* *towards* becoming a simulcast of BBC 2. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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Mark Carver wrote:
pqtek wrote: http://www.google.co.uk/ Enter BBC2HD Click 'News' on the Black Line at top of page. And you get this:- http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-planned/5029807.article But *only* if you follow the link from Google (i.e. they check the Referrer: header, you can't visit it direct. |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article Try this instead... http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...029807.article |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wednesday, July 13th, 2011 at 20:02:00h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
With the text changed to back peddle saying, BBC HD will *move* *towards* becoming a simulcast of BBC 2. Back in February 2011, Broadcast Now was claiming QUOTE BBC2 HD still two years away | News | Broadcast http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/....023958.article - Cached17 Feb 2011 – It will be at least two years before the BBC launches another simulcast high- definition channel - despite producers being required to supply ... UNQUOTE |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:51:53 +0100, Scott
wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver wrote: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article And what about BBC2 Scotland? I assume the change will not take place until the facility for the 'nations' to broadcast in HD is implemented. Ditto BBC Northern Ireland. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:26:24 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:51:53 +0100, Scott wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:11:31 +0100, Mark Carver wrote: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bbc/bbc-hd/3d-boss-quits-bbc2-hd-to-launch/5029807.article And what about BBC2 Scotland? I assume the change will not take place until the facility for the 'nations' to broadcast in HD is implemented. Ditto BBC Northern Ireland. Yes, I think 'Nations' in BBC language means England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wednesday, July 13th, 2011 at 21:02:22h +0100, Scott wrote:
Yes, I think 'Nations' in BBC language means England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Indeed so, after all, the BBC motto is "Nation shall speak peace unto Nation". |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
In message , Scott
wrote And what about BBC2 Scotland? It's going to be replaced with Alba HD -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:31:15 +0100, Alan
wrote: In message , Scott wrote And what about BBC2 Scotland? It's going to be replaced with Alba HD Will that be along with replacing the Parliament Channel with the Scottish Parliament Channel? |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
"Scott" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:35:10 +0100, the dog from that film you saw wrote: On 13/07/2011 5:24 PM, Mark Carver wrote: Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I'm thinking the original poster may have forgotten something in the quote. It's definitely not worth £225 in its present form. Well, I can't provide a direct quote without possibly breaching copyright, but actually there's not much more info anyway. Danielle Nagler is leaving the Beeb later this year (not to be replaced) to join a firm a lawyers, and the Beeb have also said today that BBC HD will be converted into BBC 2 HD. which could mean we end up watching non HD bbc 2 shows upscaled while bbc 3 and 4 HD shows we currently see on BBC HD go unseen until some point in the future if repeated. Or conversely they could put the HD stuff on BBC2. Was there not a suggestion coming from the Trust that the way the programmes were divided into channels might change, with possibly a reduction from four to three? At the moment four seem unnecessary as BBC4 seems to show all the programmes twice an evening I think the early morning repeats are a necessity. If they weren't there I would never see a BBC4 program as I almost always have a double clash at 9pm already tim |
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In article ,
tim.... wrote: I think the early morning repeats are a necessity. If they weren't there I would never see a BBC4 program as I almost always have a double clash at 9pm already ever thought of recording it? -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:27:04 +0100, charles
wrote: In article , tim.... wrote: I think the early morning repeats are a necessity. If they weren't there I would never see a BBC4 program as I almost always have a double clash at 9pm already ever thought of recording it? I'm guessing that a double clash means three programmes in total (as a clash would mean two). My PVR can only record two programmes. I assume others are the same. So I expect he has applied more thought than you have :-) |
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Scott wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:27:04 +0100, charles wrote: In article , tim.... wrote: I think the early morning repeats are a necessity. If they weren't there I would never see a BBC4 program as I almost always have a double clash at 9pm already ever thought of recording it? I'm guessing that a double clash means three programmes in total (as a clash would mean two). My PVR can only record two programmes. I assume others are the same. So I expect he has applied more thought than you have :-) 30 years ago I shocked the family by getting a second VCR because of double clashes. In those days VCRs were very expensive. My action was seen as utter profligacy. There are two odd things about this, from today's perspective. Despite the huge increase in the number of channels I can't imagine finding more than an average of four programmes per week to record, and the chances of even two being on at the same time are low. Secondly, I now have the ability to record six channels at once, if all machines are used. Bill |
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Bill Wright wrote:
Secondly, I now have the ability to record six channels at once, if all machines are used. I can beat that by one ! Humax HD Sat box, 2 record channels Toppy SD DTT box, 2 record channels Sony DTT DVD/HDD box, 1 record channel Sony analogue DVD/HDD box, plugged into FTA-use Sky box, 1 record channel Sony DTT TV with external HDD plugged in the back, 1 record channel. However we only watch an average of one prog per night, normally from BBC 1, 2, BBC 4, or C4, and if we do miss something, normally owing to my incompetence in failing to notice it, we use i-player ! -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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Mark Carver wrote:
Bill Wright wrote: I now have the ability to record six channels at once, if all machines are used. I can beat that by one ! I can beat that by *lots* MythTV with dual DVB-T tuners and dual DVB-S2 tuners, each tuner configured to record 4 simultaneous programmes per mux/transponder. It could probably cope with more simultaneous recordings if I tried, storage is on 8x500GB SATA disks. Nowadays its rare for it to even record 2 programmes at once, the reason the DVB-S2 tuners were recently added was for HD, rather than extra simultaneous recordings. |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
That should have been merge bbc 3 and 4, but somehow, I don't think enayone would notice. Can't say that I disagree, in fact you could probably merge BBC2/3/4 so all the combined output could all go out in HD and not notice too much lost, apart from a bit of flexibility to show multiple streams e,.g. for Wimbledon/Olympics etc. |
BBC HD to become BBC 2 HD
Mark Carver wrote:
Bill Wright wrote: Secondly, I now have the ability to record six channels at once, if all machines are used. I can beat that by one ! Humax HD Sat box, 2 record channels Toppy SD DTT box, 2 record channels Sony DTT DVD/HDD box, 1 record channel Sony analogue DVD/HDD box, plugged into FTA-use Sky box, 1 record channel Sony DTT TV with external HDD plugged in the back, 1 record channel. However we only watch an average of one prog per night, normally from BBC 1, 2, BBC 4, or C4, and if we do miss something, normally owing to my incompetence in failing to notice it, we use i-player ! Oh yes, I forgot the VCR in the workshop! Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Scott wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:27:04 +0100, charles wrote: In article , tim.... wrote: I think the early morning repeats are a necessity. If they weren't there I would never see a BBC4 program as I almost always have a double clash at 9pm already ever thought of recording it? I'm guessing that a double clash means three programmes in total (as a clash would mean two). My PVR can only record two programmes. I assume others are the same. So I expect he has applied more thought than you have :-) 30 years ago I shocked the family by getting a second VCR because of double clashes. In those days VCRs were very expensive. My action was seen as utter profligacy. There are two odd things about this, from today's perspective. Despite the huge increase in the number of channels I can't imagine finding more than an average of four programmes per week to record, and the chances of even two being on at the same time are low. Secondly, I now have the ability to record six channels at once, if all machines are used. Looks like you got me. Guilty as charged. I watch far too much TV :-( tim |
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tim.... wrote:
I watch far too much TV :-( I'd love to watch more. There are more good progs than I have time for. Bill |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:58:36 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Yes in the old days, with three vcrs, you had so much to watch you found you were watching Christmas shows at Easter, however nowadays, there is so much crap and regurgitated crap and Super crap compilations of crap and home made crap that even one recorder is often too many! Moral of the story, More channels does not mean more to watch, it means that you thin down the content so much its more like water than emulsion paint, which of course is what you watch drying if you want real entertainment these days. Still a bugger though when there are only three programmes worth watching one evening and they're all at the same time. You have to watch one live and catch all the sodding adverts. |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:05:26 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:58:36 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Yes in the old days, with three vcrs, you had so much to watch you found you were watching Christmas shows at Easter, however nowadays, there is so much crap and regurgitated crap and Super crap compilations of crap and home made crap that even one recorder is often too many! Moral of the story, More channels does not mean more to watch, it means that you thin down the content so much its more like water than emulsion paint, which of course is what you watch drying if you want real entertainment these days. Still a bugger though when there are only three programmes worth watching one evening and they're all at the same time. You have to watch one live and catch all the sodding adverts. Out of three channels I'm sure there must be one with no adverts. Steve -- Neural network software applications, help and support. Neural Planner Software www.NPSL1.com |
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"Albert Ross" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:58:36 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Yes in the old days, with three vcrs, you had so much to watch you found you were watching Christmas shows at Easter, however nowadays, there is so much crap and regurgitated crap and Super crap compilations of crap and home made crap that even one recorder is often too many! Moral of the story, More channels does not mean more to watch, it means that you thin down the content so much its more like water than emulsion paint, which of course is what you watch drying if you want real entertainment these days. Still a bugger though when there are only three programmes worth watching one evening and they're all at the same time. You have to watch one live and catch all the sodding adverts. You watch one of them "live" and when the das come on you start to replay one of the others keeping an eye on the PiP for the end of the ads :-( tim |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:49:12 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
I can beat that by *lots* MythTV with dual DVB-T tuners and dual DVB-S2 tuners, each tuner configured to record 4 simultaneous programmes per mux/transponder. It could probably cope with more simultaneous recordings if I tried, storage is on 8x500GB SATA disks. I've always wanted to have a go at MythTv, is there a dummies guide anywhere? I've had a go before but my eyes glazed over trying to set it up, it's hard to unlearn Windows. |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:39:43 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:05:26 +0100, Albert Ross wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:58:36 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Yes in the old days, with three vcrs, you had so much to watch you found you were watching Christmas shows at Easter, however nowadays, there is so much crap and regurgitated crap and Super crap compilations of crap and home made crap that even one recorder is often too many! Moral of the story, More channels does not mean more to watch, it means that you thin down the content so much its more like water than emulsion paint, which of course is what you watch drying if you want real entertainment these days. Still a bugger though when there are only three programmes worth watching one evening and they're all at the same time. You have to watch one live and catch all the sodding adverts. Out of three channels I'm sure there must be one with no adverts. Then you can't empty your bladder |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:25:28 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:39:43 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:05:26 +0100, Albert Ross wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:58:36 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Yes in the old days, with three vcrs, you had so much to watch you found you were watching Christmas shows at Easter, however nowadays, there is so much crap and regurgitated crap and Super crap compilations of crap and home made crap that even one recorder is often too many! Moral of the story, More channels does not mean more to watch, it means that you thin down the content so much its more like water than emulsion paint, which of course is what you watch drying if you want real entertainment these days. Still a bugger though when there are only three programmes worth watching one evening and they're all at the same time. You have to watch one live and catch all the sodding adverts. Out of three channels I'm sure there must be one with no adverts. Then you can't empty your bladder I can but I'm not going to say how. Steve -- Neural network software applications, help and support. Neural Planner Software www.NPSL1.com |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:21:33 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote: On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:25:28 +0100, Albert Ross wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:39:43 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:05:26 +0100, Albert Ross wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:58:36 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Yes in the old days, with three vcrs, you had so much to watch you found you were watching Christmas shows at Easter, however nowadays, there is so much crap and regurgitated crap and Super crap compilations of crap and home made crap that even one recorder is often too many! Moral of the story, More channels does not mean more to watch, it means that you thin down the content so much its more like water than emulsion paint, which of course is what you watch drying if you want real entertainment these days. Still a bugger though when there are only three programmes worth watching one evening and they're all at the same time. You have to watch one live and catch all the sodding adverts. Out of three channels I'm sure there must be one with no adverts. Then you can't empty your bladder I can but I'm not going to say how. G It's not until you've become used to recording all your TV that you realise what a total pain Programme Planners are, running programmes on different channels "in competition" to prevent you watching them both/all, overrunning, shouting over end credits, endless trailers, not to mention DOGs. All except the DOGs can be worked around, as can pee/coffee breaks, answering phone calls etc. Makes the process an order of magnitude more civilised but unfortunately cant improve the programme content or production quality. |
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