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Brian Gaff May 28th 11 10:06 AM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
Well nearly. I was wondering how feasible such things might be on UHF these
days. reading all the completely confusing multiplex moves etc, it looks
like a nightmare, and I know that one could do a lot better merely using a
steerable satellite dish and suitable receivers, but its just interesting to
know if one, for example shoved up a rotatable uhf wideband log, whether it
might be possible to get results as we used to with analogue.
Come to that, where does one get suitable rotators these days in any case.
Of course one could shove up a band III aerial as well and try DX DAB too,
now should this be vertical or horizontal......

Brian

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Brian Gaff May 28th 11 10:08 AM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
Also, by the way, it seems that trying to get a rotator that a blind person
can use is very hard these days, as nothing but an indicator seems to move,
ie no real live knob with a detent.

Brian

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Well nearly. I was wondering how feasible such things might be on UHF
these days. reading all the completely confusing multiplex moves etc, it
looks like a nightmare, and I know that one could do a lot better merely
using a steerable satellite dish and suitable receivers, but its just
interesting to know if one, for example shoved up a rotatable uhf wideband
log, whether it might be possible to get results as we used to with
analogue.
Come to that, where does one get suitable rotators these days in any case.
Of course one could shove up a band III aerial as well and try DX DAB too,
now should this be vertical or horizontal......

Brian

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charles May 28th 11 10:23 AM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Well nearly. I was wondering how feasible such things might be on UHF
these days. reading all the completely confusing multiplex moves etc,
it looks like a nightmare, and I know that one could do a lot better
merely using a steerable satellite dish and suitable receivers, but its
just interesting to know if one, for example shoved up a rotatable uhf
wideband log, whether it might be possible to get results as we used to
with analogue.

Come to that, where does one get suitable rotators these days in any
case.



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Stephen[_6_] May 28th 11 10:50 AM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Well nearly. I was wondering how feasible such things might be on UHF
these days. reading all the completely confusing multiplex moves etc, it
looks like a nightmare, and I know that one could do a lot better merely
using a steerable satellite dish and suitable receivers, but its just
interesting to know if one, for example shoved up a rotatable uhf wideband
log, whether it might be possible to get results as we used to with
analogue.
Come to that, where does one get suitable rotators these days in any case.
Of course one could shove up a band III aerial as well and try DX DAB too,
now should this be vertical or horizontal......

Brian

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I was looking at a Freeview TV in PC World and it had 800 "Barnkanalen" in
the channel list. Googled it when I got home, and it turns out to be a
digital channel for children (bairns I assume) in Sweden. Maybe there was
some DX going on when they did they did the channel scan? I guess it's
unlikely the TV had ever been to Sweden, and this was one odd channel that
had gone in the 800s while all the other channels were normal.



Mark Carver May 28th 11 12:05 PM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
Stephen wrote:

I was looking at a Freeview TV in PC World and it had 800 "Barnkanalen" in
the channel list. Googled it when I got home, and it turns out to be a
digital channel for children (bairns I assume) in Sweden. Maybe there was
some DX going on when they did they did the channel scan? I guess it's
unlikely the TV had ever been to Sweden, and this was one odd channel that
had gone in the 800s while all the other channels were normal.


Some TV factories play modulated recordings of various countries' DTT muxes on
their internal RF distribution, to test compliance of the various flavours of
DTT and 'interactive' features each country has. It could have been a left
over from that, someone didn't do a full reset before boxing it up.

However, it could have been snatched here during a lift, though odd nothing
else from that distant mux got stored. I've got channels stored from 800 to
886 on all three of our four of our DTT tellies in the house. Various muxes,
all from not too distant transmitters, that the TVs must have found during
enhanced reception periods overnight. Since its DSO, Mendip (90 miles away)
fills many of of 800 allocations. I've got some bandpass filtering tuned up
and ready to go for my local TX, Hannington's DSO next year. Once Oxford, CP,
Rowridge, and Midhurst DSO, there's going to be no end of unwanted gunk piling
in without a lift.



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Rick May 28th 11 12:59 PM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Stephen wrote:

I was looking at a Freeview TV in PC World and it had 800 "Barnkanalen"
in the channel list. Googled it when I got home, and it turns out to be a
digital channel for children (bairns I assume) in Sweden. Maybe there was
some DX going on when they did they did the channel scan? I guess it's
unlikely the TV had ever been to Sweden, and this was one odd channel
that had gone in the 800s while all the other channels were normal.


Some TV factories play modulated recordings of various countries' DTT
muxes on their internal RF distribution, to test compliance of the various
flavours of DTT and 'interactive' features each country has. It could have
been a left over from that, someone didn't do a full reset before boxing
it up.

However, it could have been snatched here during a lift, though odd
nothing else from that distant mux got stored. I've got channels stored
from 800 to 886 on all three of our four of our DTT tellies in the house.
Various muxes, all from not too distant transmitters, that the TVs must
have found during enhanced reception periods overnight. Since its DSO,
Mendip (90 miles away) fills many of of 800 allocations. I've got some
bandpass filtering tuned up and ready to go for my local TX, Hannington's
DSO next year. Once Oxford, CP, Rowridge, and Midhurst DSO, there's going
to be no end of unwanted gunk piling in without a lift.



I receive permanent reception of BBC one from Stockland hill (group A) from
around 50 miles away on the side of a Mendip CD aerial, which a rigger
friend tells me can be very useful around the Somerset coast area as an
alternative to Wenvoe.









Ken[_7_] May 28th 11 02:23 PM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
On Sat, 28 May 2011 09:50:48 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

I was looking at a Freeview TV in PC World and it had 800 "Barnkanalen"
in the channel list. Googled it when I got home, and it turns out to be
a digital channel for children (bairns I assume) in Sweden. Maybe there
was some DX going on when they did they did the channel scan? I guess
it's unlikely the TV had ever been to Sweden, and this was one odd channel
that had gone in the 800s while all the other channels were normal.


The children channel in Sweden.
http://svt.se/tvguide/barnkanalen
Terrestrial TV in Sweden is all digital since october 2007.


Doctor D May 28th 11 05:40 PM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Stephen wrote:

I was looking at a Freeview TV in PC World and it had 800 "Barnkanalen"
in the channel list. Googled it when I got home, and it turns out to be a
digital channel for children (bairns I assume) in Sweden. Maybe there was
some DX going on when they did they did the channel scan? I guess it's
unlikely the TV had ever been to Sweden, and this was one odd channel
that had gone in the 800s while all the other channels were normal.


Some TV factories play modulated recordings of various countries' DTT
muxes on their internal RF distribution, to test compliance of the various
flavours of DTT and 'interactive' features each country has. It could have
been a left over from that, someone didn't do a full reset before boxing
it up.

However, it could have been snatched here during a lift, though odd
nothing else from that distant mux got stored. I've got channels stored
from 800 to 886 on all three of our four of our DTT tellies in the house.
Various muxes, all from not too distant transmitters, that the TVs must
have found during enhanced reception periods overnight. Since its DSO,
Mendip (90 miles away) fills many of of 800 allocations. I've got some
bandpass filtering tuned up and ready to go for my local TX, Hannington's
DSO next year. Once Oxford, CP, Rowridge, and Midhurst DSO, there's going
to be no end of unwanted gunk piling in without a lift.


It's become a major problem here since Ridge Hill and Lark Stoke switched
over. I've carried out three re-tunes in nearby villages in the past
fortnight where the Sutton Coldfield aerials have provided enough signal to
allow the decoders to choose RH or LS over SC - with the obvious problem of
poor reception after that.

Two of these installations were from wideband aerials which exacerbates the
problem. I either carry out a manual tune or remove the aerial connection
until the tuner has passed E39. This will no longer work after Lark Stoke
hits it's final channel allocations in September and all the MUXes are at
high power.


Grimly Curmudgeon May 28th 11 09:30 PM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Brian Gaff"
saying something like:

Well nearly. I was wondering how feasible such things might be on UHF these
days.


Very feasible. There are lots of people watching UK Freeview muxes on
the East Coast of Ireland, with antennas trained towards Wales.

Woody[_3_] May 29th 11 12:15 PM

Reception of DX digital TV??
 
Having just come back from France I can guarantee that French
stations are perfectly receivable on a UK DTTV. However it may be
necessary to set it to look for French channels (language) else
it will find nothing.



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