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J G Miller wrote:
On Monday, May 23rd, 2011 at 13:14:03h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

Since DSO completed in Wales last March, S4C only carries Welsh language
programmes.

This statement is factually incorrect.

S4C carries over night programming in English on Fridays through Sunday,
and also on weeknights when the Cymraeg Parliament is in recess.

http://www.s4c.co.UK/e_press_level2.shtml?id=465

Well well well,

http://www.bbc.co.UK/news/uk-wales-12354075

Furthermore all (as far as I am aware) of the commercials it broadcasts
are also in English only.

Yea, but commercials are not programmes in my book.


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On Monday, May 23rd, 2011 at 21:06:25 +0100, Mark Carver espoused:

Yea, but commercials are not programmes in my book.

Even if they are 28 minutes and 30 seconds infomercials? ;)

QUOTE

According to tapebeat.com, over $150 billion of consumer
products in the US are sold through infomercials.

UNQUOTE

A review of the worst at

http://www.infomercial-hell.COM/

BBC Alba Freeview date unveiled
 

In article , Scott
wrote:


Why are BBC radio stations being taken off air? Why not the red button
stuff? As I see it, BBC radio stations are core services but the red
button stuff is not.

I'd agree.

It is also my personal view that there would been a more logical argument
for removing the Parliament channel in the evenings since it can be argued
that the situation is different in Scotland. There were various alternative
to removing so many radio channels. None were really ideal, and the
decision to let Alba displace something else was made on the basis of
rather dubious evidence. But if it is deemed necessary, the sacrifice seems
a very bad choice to me.


It is hard to devine the thinking of the suits that made this
proposal/decision. But I do wonder if this is just a reflection of some at
the BBC who regard 'TV' as being more important than mere sound radio.

No doubt some would also say, "but radio is also on VHF, DAB, etc",
however...

Before anyone points out this is Freeview (with the emphasis on the
'view') and radio services are available on other platforms, coverage of
Freeview is far superior to DAB in the Highlands.

....that is also what I think may well be the case.

Though I do not live in the HiIghlands and cannot speak from personal
experience I believe the some people get better TV reception than FM
radio.

I'd agree again. Indeed, that was why at the start of the year I tried to
produce comparable maps of TX powers and locations. The snag was that
no-one could provide me with the data for Freeview. Not even OfCom, which
is crazy when you think about it!

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Geoff Pearson
wrote:

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:39:07 +0100, Geoff Pearson wrote:

I am cross that I will not be able to listen to high quality digital
Radio 3 in the evenings. Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

The high quality digital Radio 3 is only available as an Internet
stream.


It is 192k on DTV - most of the time. However, I've also noticed today
that FM sounds more "stereo" than the DTV or DAB as well as a clearer,
rounder sound.

There are various possible reasons for that. Even in labbench measurements
VHF tuners tend to have lower channel separation and higher distortion for
the difference signal, for example. And in use may often be affected by
multipath. The higher levels of applied level compression on R3 also make
an audible difference.

Personally, even when using a CT7000 for FM, I tended to find the DTV much
clearer and more natural. ppp sections of music didn't vanish under the
noise floor, and peaks don't suffer from the same limiting and bandlimiting
distortions.

However these days I do most R3 listening via the HD stream. And where
available tend to enjoy proms via BBC4 TV.

Slainte,

Jim

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In message , Jim Lesurf
writes
In article , Scott
wrote:


Why are BBC radio stations being taken off air? Why not the red button
stuff? As I see it, BBC radio stations are core services but the red
button stuff is not.

I'd agree.

It is also my personal view that there would been a more logical argument
for removing the Parliament channel in the evenings since it can be argued
that the situation is different in Scotland. There were various alternative
to removing so many radio channels. None were really ideal, and the
decision to let Alba displace something else was made on the basis of
rather dubious evidence. But if it is deemed necessary, the sacrifice seems
a very bad choice to me.


It is hard to devine the thinking of the suits that made this
proposal/decision. But I do wonder if this is just a reflection of some at
the BBC who regard 'TV' as being more important than mere sound radio.

No doubt some would also say, "but radio is also on VHF, DAB, etc",
however...

Before anyone points out this is Freeview (with the emphasis on the
'view') and radio services are available on other platforms, coverage of
Freeview is far superior to DAB in the Highlands.

...that is also what I think may well be the case.

Though I do not live in the HiIghlands and cannot speak from personal
experience I believe the some people get better TV reception than FM
radio.

I'd agree again. Indeed, that was why at the start of the year I tried to
produce comparable maps of TX powers and locations. The snag was that
no-one could provide me with the data for Freeview. Not even OfCom, which
is crazy when you think about it!

Slainte,

Jim

Why can't Alba be placed in the 11 hours of wasted space that is BBC HD
Preview.
--
Ian

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In article ,
Ian wrote:

Why can't Alba be placed in the 11 hours of wasted space that is BBC HD
Preview.

Can HD and SD channels share a multiplex (and the SD channels be
received by non-DVB-T2 televisions)?

-- Richard

BBC Alba Freeview date unveiled
 

Richard Tobin wrote:
: Can HD and SD channels share a multiplex (and the SD channels be
: received by non-DVB-T2 televisions)?

It isn't the sharing of HD and SD channels which is the problem (BBC on
DSAT did this for ages with DVB-S) it is the fact that the HD mux on
Freeview is DVB-T2 (which SD Freeview receivers don't see).

BBC Alba Freeview date unveiled
 

On 24/05/2011 11:22, Ian wrote:

Why can't Alba be placed in the 11 hours of wasted space that is BBC HD
Preview.

In addition to Brian Mc's point, BBC Alba transmission hours are
evenings, and so are BBC HD's. Although, there's possibly enough space
on the HD DTT mux to accommodate it as an low bitrate SD service,
especially as it could be coded in MPEG4.

Of course making it SD exclusive might increase take up of T2 DTT
receivers, if the service is such a 'must have' as the BBC seem to think
;-)


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On 23/05/2011 23:45, J G Miller wrote:
On Monday, May 23rd, 2011 at 21:06:25 +0100, Mark Carver espoused:

Yea, but commercials are not programmes in my book.

Even if they are 28 minutes and 30 seconds infomercials? ;)

Well, if you say so, though you have used selective snipping of my post
to get the last word on this matter.


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On 23/05/2011 08:21, Silk wrote:

I'm taking a guess that gaelic speakers are amongst the richer and more
influential end of the population.

No, but the PC brigade are.

Z