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In article , Andy Wade [email protected]
ell.myzen.co.uk scribeth thus
On 11/05/2011 15:02, Richard Russell wrote:

I particularly like: "72V Dielectric-Bias System (DBS) saturates and
polarizes insulation, greatly reducing digital-audio distortion".

I've only recently become aware of this dielectric bias thing. It's
certainly taking audio bull**** to a whole new level - try this:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf


Boggle;!!!....
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In article , J G Miller
wrote:
On Thursday, May 12th, 2011 at 00:20:59h +0100, Andy Wade wrote:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf

QUOTE It has long been noted that cables (and all audio components)
sound better after having been left turned-on for a number of days. QUOTE

Is there any evidence whatsoever to backup this claim with respect to
cables?

As is often the case in 'audio' you have to distinguish carefully to
answer.

A) There are countless examples of people *saying* that the sound will/can
change (usually said to be an 'improvement') as some cables are used.

B) No example I know of where anyone has demonstated - either by
measurement or by a controlled listening comparison - that there was any
change, except for fairly trivial cases like cable connector corrosion
changes.

The difficulty here is the common one in audio. There are so many other
factors that can alter what we hear that it is easy to make a
misattribution as to the 'cause' of what is perceived.

Unfortunately when asked to take part in a controlled test to focus on
testing the claimed 'cause' of the asserted change, the standard reaction
is for claimers to refuse to participate.

Or is the scientific evidence as good as the proof for cold fusion?

Much like the above apart from more willingness to actually put their ideas
to a critical test. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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J G Miller wrote:
On Thursday, May 12th, 2011 at 00:20:59h +0100, Andy Wade wrote:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf

QUOTE
It has long been noted that cables (and all audio components) sound
better after having been left turned-on for a number of days.
QUOTE

Is there any evidence whatsoever to backup this claim with respect to
cables?

Or is the scientific evidence as good as the proof for cold fusion?

See:

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/...f-suckers.html

I don't think James Randi would be offering $1 million if he thought he'd
lose.

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On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:21:56 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Thu, 12 May 2011 02:04:15 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

I suspect the probability of so-called cold fusion happening is higher
than that of the claim above.

I hope you will watch the documentary film when it is released.

Certainly, but equally certainly I'm not holding my breath waiting for
it. :-)

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On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:21:56 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Thu, 12 May 2011 02:04:15 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

I suspect the probability of so-called cold fusion happening is higher
than that of the claim above.

I hope you will watch the documentary film when it is released.

Since so-called "cold fusion" has been mentioned I'll summarise what I
understood Martin Fleischmann to be hinting at in his lecture. (I didn't
join in the Q&A session and I didn't get to speak to him privately after
the lecture.)

He is a chemist who knows about catalysis. Oversimplifying a lot, a
catalyst works by assisting two molecules of different types to come
together and react. In the absence of the catalyst the chances of the
molecules meeting under the necessary conditions are much lower.

He seems to think that fusion, the bring together of two protons to
create a helium nucleus, could be assisted in a similar way, Rather than
having a catalyst that grabs hold of one or more of the molecules the
protons would be restricted in their movement by being in the network of
gaps between atoms in a solid or liquid. Two protons hurtling toward one
another in a vacuum are very likely to veer off to the side of one
another by their natural repulsion. It will be rare that two protons
will be heading exactly towards one another so that they will collide.
His idea was that if the protons are flying around in a network of gaps
between atoms their ability to move sideways will be limited. This would
increase the probability of collisions.

Even if this is correct it does not mean that the effect is sufficiently
large to form a source of energy.



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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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"Andy Wade" wrote in message
...
On 11/05/2011 15:02, Richard Russell wrote:

I particularly like: "72V Dielectric-Bias System (DBS) saturates and
polarizes insulation, greatly reducing digital-audio distortion".

I've only recently become aware of this dielectric bias thing. It's
certainly taking audio bull**** to a whole new level - try this:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf

If only you had the technical expertise and business acumen of Mr Andrews :)
--
JohnT

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In article , Peter
Duncanson
wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:21:56 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Thu, 12 May 2011 02:04:15 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

I suspect the probability of so-called cold fusion happening is
higher than that of the claim above.

I hope you will watch the documentary film when it is released.

Since so-called "cold fusion" has been mentioned I'll summarise what I
understood Martin Fleischmann to be hinting at in his lecture. (I didn't
join in the Q&A session and I didn't get to speak to him privately after
the lecture.)

He is a chemist who knows about catalysis. Oversimplifying a lot, a
catalyst works by assisting two molecules of different types to come
together and react. In the absence of the catalyst the chances of the
molecules meeting under the necessary conditions are much lower.

He seems to think that fusion, the bring together of two protons to
create a helium nucleus, could be assisted in a similar way,

Yes, people believe all kinds of things. :-)

However AIUI the general evidence seems to show that he is either mistaken,
mislead by errors in his orginal experimental mathods, or the fusion is so
ultra-rare as to be of no real use. Depends on how generously you interpret
the "could be". Fusion "could" occur because two of the hydrogen molecules
in the gas burning in your gas oven fuse. This may happen at times. But be
so rare as to be of no use.

Slainte,

Jim

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Richard Russell"
saying something like:

I particularly like: "72V Dielectric-Bias System (DBS) saturates and
polarizes insulation, greatly reducing digital-audio distortion".

Wow. Bull**** Bingo.

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On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:29:16 +0100, Terry Casey
wrote:

However, I suppose I'll want one one day, so I picked up a 2m one when I
spotted some in a pound shop a while ago. Whether I'll be able to find it when
I need one is another matter ...

That's the big advantage of pound shops, when you can't find something
you go to the pound shop and buy a replacement, which guarantees you
immediately find the original but haven't wated as much money as you
would if you had to buy a second full price one

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On Thu, 12 May 2011 09:00:39 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

B) No example I know of where anyone has demonstated - either by
measurement or by a controlled listening comparison - that there was any
change, except for fairly trivial cases like cable connector corrosion
changes.

I learned that one in spades when I had a Fiat. The electrics were
made of aluminium rather than copper. I took to carrying a wire brush
so when a bulb or switch appeared to have failed I could brush the
oxidised crud off the contacts and get it back to life.

I've read (but don't know if it's true) that silicone furniture polish
could affect electrical connections by migrating in between plug and
socket.

Certainly the first thing I try if one of my computers appears to be
going tits up is to pull and replug all the connectors, cards etc.
which often mends it.

I strongly suspect that in the audio world the effect of poor
connections outweighs the effect of the cable by several orders of
magnitude unless you're using piddly little bell wire.