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airsmoothed May 9th 11 11:19 PM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On May 9, 3:53*pm, Jim wrote:

I have had a problem with one cheap cable causing
interference with the TV signal. *It's possible some
of these are not well screened. *Sometimes the TV
fails to see connected HDMI devices and I end up
unplugging the cable, but this could be down to the TV
or device interfaces. *It doesn't seem the most
reliable technology, but I wouldn't know how far to
blame the cables. *More likely, problems are caused by
varying interpretations of the interface specifications.

As for ADSL, my line is currently showing errors every
second, but it still works, mostly. *I'm not sure HDMI
would survive that.


HDMI has a very high bit rate and no error correction on the payload,
so it is possible to make a HDMI cable so crap it won't work properly,
however the problems will be obvious, not subtle. The tricky bit is
telling the 3 quid cable that's made properly to HDMI v1.3b spec. or
whatever and the one that's a 50p cable made from string and sold with
a higher profit margin.


Graham. May 11th 11 03:15 AM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 

Is there something I'm missing about the need for gold-plated (and
presumably diamond-encrusted) HDMI cables in some situations, that
obviously I don't need? I can't think of any other commodity item where
there's a price ratio of over 20:1 between competing retailers.


It's a digital cable. The bits get there, or they don't. You'd have to be very (un)lucky to get a cable which would give you
most of the bits (so it worked at all) but dropped a few (so you get picture degradation).

Unless the plugs were loose - which would be pretty obvious.

What you are missing is of course the profit margin.

Andy


Plus the fact that "There's a sucker born every minute" (P. T. Barnum.)

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Peter[_10_] May 11th 11 03:23 PM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:39:37 +0100, Clive Page
wrote:

I decided it would be useful occasionally to be able connect my newish
laptop to our TV, and found that both had HDMI connections (which I've
no experience of using before). So off to buy an HDMI cable...

Messrs Maplin have a shop near us so I often get such items there, but
their prices were £25 and upwards which surprised me; other local shops
like PC World had prices which were similar or even further into the
stratosphere. I then Googled and found a number of on-line retailers
selling them at around £5 which seemed more reasonable. Then to ebay
where I've just got one from a UK dealer, delivered in under 2 days, for
£1-19 including postage and packing. It works fine.

Is there something I'm missing about the need for gold-plated (and
presumably diamond-encrusted) HDMI cables in some situations, that
obviously I don't need? I can't think of any other commodity item where
there's a price ratio of over 20:1 between competing retailers.


That stalwart of quality hi-fi and video etc, Russ Andrews, sells,
probably to those people who are so stupid they must be dead from the
neck up a 0.5 metre HDMI cable for £207.00 (Delivery is FOC!!)

His description is:

Kimber's HD-29 HDMI cable is the top of the range HDMI cable in
Kimber's range. It uses very large gauge silver-plated conductors, the
plating of which is thicker than in their HD-19 HDMI cable.

Additionally, all cables are individually hand tested to ensure they
meet Kimber's exacting electrical specifications.

And the result of this precise manufacture? Stunning images and
crystal-clear sound. We've seen clear improvements in image quality,
with less noise and finer colour detail; sound was also more detailed
and has better three-dimensional resolution.

HD-29 is classified as High Speed, meaning that it will pass 1080p
High Definition pictures at all lengths upto 20m and supports 3D
images.

Please note
For technical reasons we are unable to Burn-In or DCT any of the HD-29
cables.

Sad I know, but people must purchase from him.

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Peter

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Richard Russell May 11th 11 04:02 PM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Wed, 11 May 2011 14:23:37 +0100, Peter
wrote:

That stalwart of quality hi-fi and video etc, Russ Andrews, sells,
probably to those people who are so stupid they must be dead from the
neck up a 0.5 metre HDMI cable for £207.00 (Delivery is FOC!!)


How about 0.6 metres for £669.60:

http://www.petertyson.co.uk/ebuttonz...mi.shtml?fshop

I particularly like: "72V Dielectric-Bias System (DBS) saturates and
polarizes insulation, greatly reducing digital-audio distortion".

Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/

J G Miller[_4_] May 11th 11 09:00 PM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Wednesday, May 11th, 2011 at 14:23:37h +0100, Peter wrote:

HD-29 is classified as High Speed, meaning that it will pass 1080p High
Definition pictures at all lengths upto 20m and supports 3D images.


So it is already obsolete -- the latest HDMI cables support up to 1440p.

Of course, if you need a *really* long cable (1080p and v1.3 3D capable),
then it is going to be expensive.

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/at14030l-55.html

J G Miller[_4_] May 11th 11 09:01 PM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Wednesday, May 11th, 2011 at 14:23:37h +0100, Peter wrote:

HD-29 is classified as High Speed, meaning that it will pass 1080p High
Definition pictures at all lengths upto 20m and supports 3D images.


So it is already obsolete -- the latest HDMI cables support up to 1440p.

Of course, if you need a *really* long cable (1080p and v1.3 3D capable),
then it is going to be expensive.

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/at14030l-55.html

Andy Wade May 12th 11 01:20 AM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On 11/05/2011 15:02, Richard Russell wrote:

I particularly like: "72V Dielectric-Bias System (DBS) saturates and
polarizes insulation, greatly reducing digital-audio distortion".


I've only recently become aware of this dielectric bias thing. It's
certainly taking audio bull**** to a whole new level - try this:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf

--
Andy

J G Miller[_4_] May 12th 11 02:33 AM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Thursday, May 12th, 2011 at 00:20:59h +0100, Andy Wade wrote:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf


QUOTE
It has long been noted that cables (and all audio components) sound
better after having been left turned-on for a number of days.
QUOTE

Is there any evidence whatsoever to backup this claim with respect to
cables?

Or is the scientific evidence as good as the proof for cold fusion?

--

The Believers http://vimeo.COM/15067203 now in post-production

Peter Duncanson May 12th 11 03:04 AM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Thu, 12 May 2011 00:33:36 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Thursday, May 12th, 2011 at 00:20:59h +0100, Andy Wade wrote:

http://www.servo.lv/images/productsV...114754.DBS.pdf


QUOTE
It has long been noted that cables (and all audio components) sound
better after having been left turned-on for a number of days.
QUOTE

Is there any evidence whatsoever to backup this claim with respect to
cables?

Or is the scientific evidence as good as the proof for cold fusion?


Now hold on just one little minute!

I attended a public lecture on cold fusion by Martin Fleischmann, one of
its proponents. Most of the people in the lecture theatre were
physicists. As befits the subject matter, their reception of the topic
was frosty. I came away with some sort of understanding of why he
thought that cold fusion might be possible even though it hadn't been
demonstrated.

I suspect the probability of so-called cold fusion happening is higher
than that of the claim above.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

J G Miller[_4_] May 12th 11 03:21 AM

Amazing prices for HDMI cables
 
On Thu, 12 May 2011 02:04:15 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

I suspect the probability of so-called cold fusion happening is higher
than that of the claim above.


I hope you will watch the documentary film when it is released.



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