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In article , Bill Wright wrote:
I've got a brilliant idea.
When more electricity is needed, and there isn't enough wind to turn the
windfarm turbines, why can't they use half the turbines as motors? Those
'windmills' would then act as fans, and the wind they produce would make
the other wind turbines turn, and generate the much-needed electricity.

I'll get me coat....

In terms of logic, economy, and scientific credibility, your idea sits
well with UK energy policy.

No, that's silly. They should run them really fast as motors to slow the
Earth's orbit and eventually bring it to a stop so that we're facing towards
the Sun all the time. Then we can use solar power...

Rod.
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On Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 at 16:40:17h +0100, Roderick Stewart wrote:

No, that's silly. They should run them really fast as motors to slow the
Earth's orbit and eventually bring it to a stop so that we're facing
towards the Sun all the time. Then we can use solar power...

I do not think the billions living in East Asia would be too happy
being kept in the dark all the time.

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On Wed, 4 May 2011 15:59:45 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 at 16:40:17h +0100, Roderick Stewart wrote:

No, that's silly. They should run them really fast as motors to slow the
Earth's orbit and eventually bring it to a stop so that we're facing
towards the Sun all the time. Then we can use solar power...

I do not think the billions living in East Asia would be too happy
being kept in the dark all the time.

They could either run their own very fast turbines, or they could pack
their bags and come to live with us on the sunny side of the planet.

With the Earth's rotation slowed down to once a year (to keep our bit
facing the Sun) TV and communications satellites will no longer be
geostationary. They will be moving across the sky once every 24 hrs.

More work for satellite dish erectors!


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Peter Duncanson
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Peter Duncanson wrote:

With the Earth's rotation slowed down to once a year (to keep our bit
facing the Sun) TV and communications satellites will no longer be
geostationary. They will be moving across the sky once every 24 hrs.

I suppose the only possible geostationary orbit would be at the same
distance as the sun.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

With the Earth's rotation slowed down to once a year (to keep our bit
facing the Sun) TV and communications satellites will no longer be
geostationary. They will be moving across the sky once every 24 hrs.

I suppose the only possible geostationary orbit would be at the same
distance as the sun.

If the satellites didn't want to be co-located with the sun, they'd need
one HELL of a propulsion system ...

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Bill Wright wrote:

I suppose the only possible geostationary orbit would be at the same
distance as the sun.

Presumably also the lagrange points? Though number 3 would be a bugger
for signal and number 1 would fry the LNBs pretty well ...

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On 04/05/2011 16:37, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 at 15:14:37h +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Seems a lot of trouble to go to considering rock has a density only 2x
to 3x that of water ... perhaps you could find a whole mountain of
Galena?

Yes we have done this one before, and was met with appropriate ridicule
and scorn.

Mercury 13,6x (if I am reading the figures correctly)

If rivers of mercury were good enough for the late Qin Shi Huang ...

Ha! Finally a use for all that depleted uranium! (Density = 19.1)

Andy

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"Andy Champ" wrote in message . uk...
On 04/05/2011 16:37, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 at 15:14:37h +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Seems a lot of trouble to go to considering rock has a density only 2x
to 3x that of water ... perhaps you could find a whole mountain of
Galena?

Yes we have done this one before, and was met with appropriate ridicule
and scorn.

Mercury 13,6x (if I am reading the figures correctly)

If rivers of mercury were good enough for the late Qin Shi Huang ...

Ha! Finally a use for all that depleted uranium! (Density = 19.1)

Andy

But they were large balls, large balls,
Twice as heavy as lead, cha, cha;
And with two twists of his muscular wrists,
He threw them right over his head.
Sera-aboom, sera-a-boom, sera-a-boom boom boom.

Coat?


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Graham.

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 03 May 2011 22:52:56 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Graham. wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've seen a few news items about the moorland fires, and in each case
the wind turbines in the background have been stationary,
despite the obvious wind. I wonder why?

Bill

If you saw the items in the press it might just boil down to
shortcomings in that medium ;-)

I hadn't thought of that. Damn.

Yes. Damn these modern cameras with their brief exposures. Where's
decent motion blur when you need it?

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

I have thought for sometime that a method of storing energy from wind
turbines would be to use electrolysis to split oxygen and hydrogen from
water and store the hydrogen as an energy source for engines.

Peter

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In message , peter
writes

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 03 May 2011 22:52:56 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Graham. wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've seen a few news items about the moorland fires, and in each case
the wind turbines in the background have been stationary,
despite the obvious wind. I wonder why?

Bill

If you saw the items in the press it might just boil down to
shortcomings in that medium ;-)

I hadn't thought of that. Damn.

Yes. Damn these modern cameras with their brief exposures. Where's
decent motion blur when you need it?

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

I have thought for sometime that a method of storing energy from wind
turbines would be to use electrolysis to split oxygen and hydrogen from
water and store the hydrogen as an energy source for engines.

Peter


Why store it, when they could just build some badly needed new towns?
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Ian