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J G Miller[_4_] April 25th 11 08:06 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
On Monday, April 25th, 2011, at 18:43:24h +0100, Woody wrote:

Now this may seem a thick question but I thought all Freesat signals
came/come from the Astra2 cluster.


Well you can see which stations are broadcast FTA from
Eutelsat Eurobird 1 at 28,5 28.5°East at

http://www.lyngsat.COM/eb1.html

some of which are paying to appear on the Freesat EPG,
eg CBS Action, CBS Drama, CBS Reality, Horror Channel,
and now, in addition, C4 HD.

Graham. April 25th 11 08:52 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 

"Woody" wrote in message ...
"Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk...
Peter Duncanson wrote:

In non-Freesat mode the box reports the frequency as 12607
When in Freesat mode the box reports the frequency as 12606


MythTV under linux lists found C4HD during a full scan, and lists the
transponder as follows

mysql SELECT frequency,polarity,symbolrate,modulation,mod_sys,f ec
FROM dtv_multiplex
WHERE mplexid=70;

+-----------+----------+------------+------------+---------+------+
| frequency | polarity | symbolrate | modulation | mod_sys | fec |
+-----------+----------+------------+------------+---------+------+
| 12606650 | v | 27500000 | qpsk | DVB-S2 | 3/4 |
+-----------+----------+------------+------------+---------+------+

so that might explain the rounding between 12606 and 12607 MHz




Now this may seem a thick question but I thought all Freesat signals came/come from the Astra2 cluster. If so why does C4HD appear
to come from Eurobird 1?



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


Because it *does* come from Eurobird 1.
As the Freesat EPG also comes from Eurobird, and it's the EPG that makes Freesat Freesat,
it could be said that Eurobird is more important to Freesat than Astra.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Mark Carver April 25th 11 09:13 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
Woody wrote:

Now this may seem a thick question but I thought all Freesat
signals came/come from the Astra2 cluster. If so why does C4HD
appear to come from Eurobird 1?


Because some Freesat and Sky platform channels use Eurobird, which being at
28.5E is as near as dammit to the Astra cluster at 28.2E to all intents and
purposes. In fact Freesat's EPG data is carried on Eurobird.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

Andy Burns[_7_] April 25th 11 09:22 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
J G Miller wrote:

Well you can see which stations are broadcast FTA from
Eutelsat Eurobird 1 at 28,5 28.5°East at

http://www.lyngsat.COM/eb1.html


Except that page claims it's 11224MHz Vertical, DVB-S1, with 2/3 FEC


J G Miller[_4_] April 25th 11 10:56 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
On Monday, April 25th, 2011 at 20:22:27h +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

Well you can see which stations are broadcast FTA from Eutelsat
Eurobird 1 at 28,5 28.5°East at

http://www.lyngsat.COM/eb1.html


Except that page claims it's 11224MHz Vertical, DVB-S1, with 2/3 FEC


Claims which?

If you are talking about C4 HD then it is clearly listed on that
page in light green (HD/clear) as being

transponder : F4L

transmission : DVB-s2
modulation : QSPK
encoding : MPEG-4

frequency : 12,607 GHz
polarisation : V

symbol rate : 27500
fec : 3/4

service id : 55300
video pid : 2305
audio pid : 2306 2307


Methinks you are looking at the wrong entry. ;)

Aha, 12,224 GHz has an entry for NHK World HD which is
DVB-s MPEG-4.

Why do you think that is incorrect?

Peter Duncanson April 25th 11 11:11 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:22:27 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

Well you can see which stations are broadcast FTA from
Eutelsat Eurobird 1 at 28,5 28.5°East at

http://www.lyngsat.COM/eb1.html


Except that page claims it's 11224MHz Vertical, DVB-S1, with 2/3 FEC


That's NHK World TV HD.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Andy Burns[_7_] April 25th 11 11:27 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
J G Miller wrote:

Aha, 12,224 GHz has an entry for NHK World HD which is
DVB-s MPEG-4.


Ooops, I had remembered the 12606 frequency from the NHK thread and then
forgot this thread had rambled onto C4HD


Andy Burns[_7_] April 25th 11 11:30 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
Andy Burns wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

Aha, 12,224 GHz has an entry for NHK World HD which is
DVB-s MPEG-4.


Ooops, I had remembered the 12606 frequency from the NHK thread and then
forgot this thread had rambled onto C4HD


Or even 12606 for C4HD!



Mark[_13_] April 26th 11 12:18 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:04:31 +0000 (UTC),
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

In article , Graham. wrote:

One channel that SWMBO likes on Freeview, that isn't availible FTA on
D-sat (including Freesat) is Dave.


I think that's quite common.

But Dave will soon have shown all the programs it has at least 50 times,
so its appeal will fade.


I'm sure it's already passed the 100 mark by now.
--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.


Adrian[_3_] April 26th 11 02:18 PM

Freesat or Freeview
 
Andy Burns wrote:
J G Miller wrote:

Well you can see which stations are broadcast FTA from
Eutelsat Eurobird 1 at 28,5 28.5°East at

http://www.lyngsat.COM/eb1.html


Except that page claims it's 11224MHz Vertical, DVB-S1, with 2/3 FEC

Look again, that's NHK World HD.

--
Adrian


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