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Ghostrecon February 28th 11 04:57 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
Hi Folks can you please give me some advice...

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box on the third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner in the
samsung.
The kids are growing up slowly and swmbo wants a tv in the bedroom so thats
4 more aerial points/freeview/freesat boxes (over the next couple of years)

We have a spare sky dish which I am happy to mount (access from flatroof on
the side of the house) - cabling would be relatively easy from there as
well. We had a quote from aerial installer to replace aerial on chimmney
wth a '''digital''' one but with a single downlead this was about £250 I'm
not sure whether I can install the aerial on the chimmney myself?

So as I see it 2 options are

1) 4 freesat boxes + cabling
or
2) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New aerial
+ cabling installed by 'proffessional'
or
3) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New aerial
+ cabling install by me

It seems that freeview boxes generally are cheaper than freesat ones

What should I do?

TIA
--
(º•.¸(¨*•.¸ ¸.•*¨)¸.•º)
.•°•. Nik .•°•.
(¸.•º(¸.•¨* *¨•.¸)º•.¸)

Michael Chare February 28th 11 08:33 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
"Ghostrecon" wrote in message
...
Hi Folks can you please give me some advice...

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box on the
third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner in the
samsung.
The kids are growing up slowly and swmbo wants a tv in the bedroom so
thats
4 more aerial points/freeview/freesat boxes (over the next couple of
years)

We have a spare sky dish which I am happy to mount (access from flatroof
on
the side of the house) - cabling would be relatively easy from there as
well. We had a quote from aerial installer to replace aerial on chimmney
wth a '''digital''' one but with a single downlead this was about £250 I'm
not sure whether I can install the aerial on the chimmney myself?

So as I see it 2 options are

1) 4 freesat boxes + cabling
or
2) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling installed by 'proffessional'
or
3) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling install by me

It seems that freeview boxes generally are cheaper than freesat ones

What should I do?


I think it depends on how easily you can install an aerial yourself, and how
sure you can be that you will purchase the right aerial first time.
That partly depends on your location, but may be easier after the analogue
services are switched off and the power of the digital transmissions is
increased .

Another option is to use a Sat multi switch. You would probably also require
a quatro LNB to your existing dish.


--
Michael Chare










Tanuki February 28th 11 08:59 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
Remember that so long as it has the requisite unobstructed
sky-view,
a satellite-dish can be located at ground-level, unlike a UHF
antenna!

Round here, plenty of people bolt their Sky-dish to a fence,
while a
UHF terrestrial antenna needs to go on a chimney-mounted 10-foot
mast or a couple of conjoined scaffold-poles at the highest point
in the garden just to see over the surrounding woodland.

"Ghostrecon" wrote in message
...
Hi Folks can you please give me some advice...

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box

on the third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have

to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with

analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner

in the
samsung.
The kids are growing up slowly and swmbo wants a tv in the

bedroom so thats
4 more aerial points/freeview/freesat boxes (over the next

couple of years)

We have a spare sky dish which I am happy to mount (access from

flatroof on
the side of the house) - cabling would be relatively easy from

there as
well. We had a quote from aerial installer to replace aerial

on chimmney
wth a '''digital''' one but with a single downlead this was

about £250 I'm
not sure whether I can install the aerial on the chimmney

myself?

So as I see it 2 options are

1) 4 freesat boxes + cabling
or
2) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere)

+ New aerial
+ cabling installed by 'proffessional'
or
3) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere)

+ New aerial
+ cabling install by me

It seems that freeview boxes generally are cheaper than freesat

ones

What should I do?

TIA
--
(º�.¸(¨*�.¸ ¸.�*¨)¸.�º)
.�°�. Nik .�°�.
(¸.�º(¸.�¨* *¨�.¸)º�.¸)



R. Mark Clayton March 1st 11 03:50 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 

"Ghostrecon" wrote in message
...
Hi Folks can you please give me some advice...

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box on the
third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner in the
samsung.
The kids are growing up slowly and swmbo wants a tv in the bedroom so
thats
4 more aerial points/freeview/freesat boxes (over the next couple of
years)

We have a spare sky dish which I am happy to mount (access from flatroof
on
the side of the house) - cabling would be relatively easy from there as
well. We had a quote from aerial installer to replace aerial on chimmney
wth a '''digital''' one but with a single downlead this was about £250 I'm
not sure whether I can install the aerial on the chimmney myself?

So as I see it 2 options are

1) 4 freesat boxes + cabling
or
2) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling installed by 'proffessional'
or
3) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling install by me

It seems that freeview boxes generally are cheaper than freesat ones

What should I do?


THe "old skybox" and quite likely the new one should have a UHF out which
can be used with their "magic eye" or whatever they called it in another
room. Assuming you don't want to receive more than four channels at once
this should work.

Otherwise buy an octo LNB.


TIA
--
(º..¸(¨*..¸ ¸..*¨)¸..º)
..°.. Nik ..°..
(¸..º(¸..¨* *¨..¸)º..¸)




Ghostrecon March 1st 11 05:43 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:50:43 -0000, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

"Ghostrecon" wrote in message
...
Hi Folks can you please give me some advice...

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box on the
third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner in the
samsung.
The kids are growing up slowly and swmbo wants a tv in the bedroom so
thats
4 more aerial points/freeview/freesat boxes (over the next couple of
years)

We have a spare sky dish which I am happy to mount (access from flatroof
on
the side of the house) - cabling would be relatively easy from there as
well. We had a quote from aerial installer to replace aerial on chimmney
wth a '''digital''' one but with a single downlead this was about £250 I'm
not sure whether I can install the aerial on the chimmney myself?

So as I see it 2 options are

1) 4 freesat boxes + cabling
or
2) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling installed by 'proffessional'
or
3) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling install by me

It seems that freeview boxes generally are cheaper than freesat ones

What should I do?


THe "old skybox" and quite likely the new one should have a UHF out which
can be used with their "magic eye" or whatever they called it in another
room. Assuming you don't want to receive more than four channels at once
this should work.

Otherwise buy an octo LNB.


TIA
--
(º..¸(¨*..¸ ¸..*¨)¸..º)
..°.. Nik ..°..
(¸..º(¸..¨* *¨..¸)º..¸)


Hi
Thanks for the replies -

I already have a spare sky dish/bracket and quad lnb - access to the
current aerial on the chimney looks ok(on one end of house) (but I'm not
wonderful with heights) guess after x number of years the bolts to remove
aerial from pole will likely be rusted up :-(
which is better freesat or freeview???

--
(º•.¸(¨*•.¸ ¸.•*¨)¸.•º)
.•°•. Nik .•°•.
(¸.•º(¸.•¨* *¨•.¸)º•.¸)

Graham.[_3_] March 1st 11 11:04 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 

Hi Folks can you please give me some advice...

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box on the
third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner in the
samsung.
The kids are growing up slowly and swmbo wants a tv in the bedroom so
thats
4 more aerial points/freeview/freesat boxes (over the next couple of
years)

We have a spare sky dish which I am happy to mount (access from flatroof
on
the side of the house) - cabling would be relatively easy from there as
well. We had a quote from aerial installer to replace aerial on chimmney
wth a '''digital''' one but with a single downlead this was about £250 I'm
not sure whether I can install the aerial on the chimmney myself?

So as I see it 2 options are

1) 4 freesat boxes + cabling
or
2) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling installed by 'proffessional'
or
3) 4 freeview boxes (probably got an old one around somewhere) + New
aerial
+ cabling install by me

It seems that freeview boxes generally are cheaper than freesat ones

What should I do?


THe "old skybox" and quite likely the new one should have a UHF out which
can be used with their "magic eye" or whatever they called it in another
room. Assuming you don't want to receive more than four channels at once
this should work.

Otherwise buy an octo LNB.


TIA
--
(º..¸(¨*..¸ ¸..*¨)¸..º)
..°.. Nik ..°..
(¸..º(¸..¨* *¨..¸)º..¸)


Hi
Thanks for the replies -

I already have a spare sky dish/bracket and quad lnb - access to the
current aerial on the chimney looks ok(on one end of house) (but I'm not
wonderful with heights) guess after x number of years the bolts to remove
aerial from pole will likely be rusted up :-(
which is better freesat or freeview???

--
(º..¸(¨*..¸ ¸..*¨)¸..º)
..°.. Nik ..°..
(¸..º(¸..¨* *¨..¸)º..¸)


There are more services to watch and listen to on satellite, and I think
the technical quality (bitrates) is better, at least on the mainstream channels.

There are a few channels that are FTA on Freeview, but subscription
on satellite, Dave for example, so it might be worthwhile having both systems.

I was wondering, if you stood on that flat roof and bolted a pair of T&K
brackets to the wall and fitted an aerial on a pole long enough to clear
the roof, do you think you would get sufficient signal?

That's the way I rigged my aerial here, and there is no way on earth I would
climb onto the main roof to access the chimney!

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Ghostrecon March 4th 11 11:16 AM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 22:04:14 -0000, Graham. wrote:


which is better freesat or freeview???

--
(º..¸(¨*..¸ ¸..*¨)¸..º)
..°.. Nik ..°..
(¸..º(¸..¨* *¨..¸)º..¸)


There are more services to watch and listen to on satellite, and I think
the technical quality (bitrates) is better, at least on the mainstream channels.

There are a few channels that are FTA on Freeview, but subscription
on satellite, Dave for example, so it might be worthwhile having both systems.

I was wondering, if you stood on that flat roof and bolted a pair of T&K
brackets to the wall and fitted an aerial on a pole long enough to clear
the roof, do you think you would get sufficient signal?

That's the way I rigged my aerial here, and there is no way on earth I would
climb onto the main roof to access the chimney!


Hi
Thanks for that
it would have to be a very long pole to mount it from the flat roof - SWMBO
vetoed that :-(
I think it comes down to whether I can diy the aerial on the chimmney - in
terms of cost £40 rather than £200 the oct lnb looks good since I would
have to buy bolts (guess £10) to mount the 2nd sky dish.....


regards
--
(º•.¸(¨*•.¸ ¸.•*¨)¸.•º)
.•°•. Nik .•°•.
(¸.•º(¸.•¨* *¨•.¸)º•.¸)

R. Mark Clayton March 4th 11 06:27 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 

"Ghostrecon" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 22:04:14 -0000, Graham. wrote:


which is better freesat or freeview???

Freesat - more stuff, better quality.

There are more services to watch and listen to on satellite, and I think
the technical quality (bitrates) is better, at least on the mainstream
channels.

There are a few channels that are FTA on Freeview, but subscription
on satellite, Dave for example, so it might be worthwhile having both
systems.

I was wondering, if you stood on that flat roof and bolted a pair of T&K
brackets to the wall and fitted an aerial on a pole long enough to clear
the roof, do you think you would get sufficient signal?

That's the way I rigged my aerial here, and there is no way on earth I
would
climb onto the main roof to access the chimney!


Hi
Thanks for that
it would have to be a very long pole to mount it from the flat roof -
SWMBO
vetoed that :-(
I think it comes down to whether I can diy the aerial on the chimmney - in
terms of cost £40 rather than £200 the oct lnb looks good since I would
have to buy bolts (guess £10) to mount the 2nd sky dish.....


regards
--

There is another way - get a 5x8 multiswitch - not that dear
http://www.google.co.uk/products?hl=...itch&scoring=p



tony sayer March 6th 11 06:59 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
In article , R. Mark Clayton
scribeth thus

"Ghostrecon" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 22:04:14 -0000, Graham. wrote:


which is better freesat or freeview???

Freesat - more stuff, better quality.


Yes it is, comparing the Dreambox sat receiver via external SCART over
the inbuilt Freeview tuner the SAT signal is noticeably better:)...

--
Tony Sayer


David Woolley[_2_] March 26th 11 12:43 PM

new aerial or second sKy dish?
 
Ghostrecon wrote:

Currently have one sky dish - sky+ on 2 outputs an old sky box on the third
and a freesat box on the fourth. To get freeview I would have to replace
te aerial/downlead currently it gaive a snowy picture with analog (and
always has done) and not enough signal to use the digital tuner in the
samsung.


As you already have two aerials, you will need planning permission for a
second dish. The multi-switch approach sounds like a good option to
explore. It does mean changing the LNB.


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