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Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

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Mark Carver wrote:
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

There's a few quid's worth in there. If that was round here it would be
an empty cabinet by now.

Bill

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Mark Carver wrote:
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

There's a few quid's worth in there. If that was round here it would be an
empty cabinet by now.



I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone boxes
contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more brown curly wire
and a usually intact set of directories, yet they were very rarely
vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era of the 1950s and
everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what happened?

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Rick wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Mark Carver wrote:
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it
looks like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such
a pathetically insecure installation ?

There's a few quid's worth in there. If that was round here it would
be an empty cabinet by now.



I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone
boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more brown
curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they were very
rarely vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era of the 1950s
and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what happened?

Socialism.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

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Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

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I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use force
to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise the
contents and some feeble attempt has been made to secure the doors.

Sheila

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In article ,
lid says...

Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ...
Rick wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...
Mark Carver wrote:
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this
morning it looks like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure installation ?

There's a few quid's worth in there. If that was round here it would be an empty cabinet by now.



I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with
nothing more brown curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they were very rarely vandalised, then came the
'Never Had It So Good' era of the 1950s and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what happened?

Socialism.

I remember phone books in call boxes.
Sometimes in the front of the book there was a map showing the local
area and if I was lost, once or twice I...
Hangs head in shame
It was just the one page M'lud not the whole book.

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"Gaius" wrote in message ...
In article ,
lid says...

Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

The primary locking mechanism seems to rely on a pair of granny's knitting needles.

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vandalised VM roadside cabinets are unfortunately a common sight these days

Stephen

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

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"Sheila" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

http://www.paras.org.uk/


I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use force
to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise the
contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first sight of
the fibre-optic cables.

On the news today - copper prices at an all time high.

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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:55:12 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

Probably not VM, but their install contractor, could be Kelly Or MAP or A.N
Other depending on franchise.

The contractor installers are a right miserable disgruntled bunch,who are
paid per job, they don't give a **** & are quite open about it.

As part of my training I had to "spend a day with a tech" which was an eye
opener. We went to an old property in Huddersfield, they were quite civil
to the customer, agreeing where he wanted the phone point etc. They then
located the street cabinet & proceeded to set about "opening it". This
involved a hammer & crow bar applied with some force (As Sheila pointed
out), before the installer's mate shouted from the van that he actually
possesed a key for said cabinet. By this time the key didn't work & they
were about to can the installation, but a bit of leverage whilst turning
the key did the trick in the end.

As I said, an eye opener. VM do employ a few network techicians & they do
keep spare locks etc. in the stores, so they should fix it in due course.

The contactor will have trashed the lock, done the install, bodged the lock
& ****ed off.

Someone could have a few minutes fun by cutting the cables & removing the
orange tags, that denote which house the cable goes too.

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Graham. wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
...

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

The primary locking mechanism seems to rely on a pair of granny's knitting
needles.

Well on my way home tonight, a fast response repair team seem to have visited,
and reinstated the high security cable ties, and applied some more insulation
tape just to make su-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg

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ian field wrote:
"Sheila" wrote in message

I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use force
to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise the
contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first sight of
the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power


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Mark Carver wrote:

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first
sight of the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power

Fibre is useless for mains. Doesn't seem to work at all.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first
sight of the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power

Fibre is useless for mains. Doesn't seem to work at all.

You need some of this:-

http://www.gepco.com/products/fiber/...2mm_flex_M.htm


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"Dan" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:55:12 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:


Someone could have a few minutes fun by cutting the cables & removing the
orange tags, that denote which house the cable goes too.


I've heard on pretty good authority that that's not unusual for the local
residents to do just that on one rough local housing estate, to make it
difficult to check out illegal installations, I don't know how true it is
but I was also told that on the same estate it's not unknown for a cable
manhole cover to be lifted and the distribution boxes buried in concrete or
tarmac to prevent the cable guys from gaining access.

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:10:55 -0000, Rick wrote:

I've heard on pretty good authority that that's not unusual for the local
residents to do just that on one rough local housing estate, to make it
difficult to check out illegal installations, I don't know how true it is

I think that the problem with chipped boxes has been all but eliminated now
with the introduction of new smart cards, although I could be wrong. So the
tag removing thing would make sense. I read somewhere that over 75% of
connections were using chipped boxes in some dodgy areas.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
ian field wrote:
"Sheila" wrote in message

I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use
force to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise
the contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first sight
of the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power

95% of 0 is...........................

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Graham. wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
...

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may
be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

The primary locking mechanism seems to rely on a pair of granny's
knitting
needles.

Well on my way home tonight, a fast response repair team seem to have
visited, and reinstated the high security cable ties, and applied some
more insulation tape just to make su-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg


They're just making it obvious there's nothing in there worth nicking.

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Mark Carver wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first
sight of the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power

Fibre is useless for mains. Doesn't seem to work at all.

You need some of this:-

http://www.gepco.com/products/fiber/...2mm_flex_M.htm

I bet that costs more per foot than birds eye maple.

Bill

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Martin wrote:

I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone
boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more brown
curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they were very
rarely vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era of the 1950s
and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what happened?
Socialism.

The never had it so good generation were SuperMac Tories.
There was a general shift in educational and parenting philosophy during
the early 50s which had little to do with party politics. Possibly it
was a psychological reaction to the straitened circumstances of the war.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:

Fibre is useless for mains. Doesn't seem to work at all.

Says who?

http://optics.org/article/25151

Hopefully it'll cook or blind the little *******s if they try to nick it
too :-)

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ian field wrote:


They're just making it obvious there's nothing in there worth nicking.

This is one of the UK's most prosperous towns, people don't nick cable round
here, they don't need to, unemployment is quoted in 'hundreds' rather than
percent. Instead they go round mindlessly destroying everything they can. The
Post Office have even decommissioned a pillar box outside of an arcade of
shops, because of repeated vandalism. It was so popular, you'd often have the
mail brimming out of the slot. The nearest alternative is now a mile away.

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Mark Carver wrote:

This is one of the UK's most prosperous towns, people don't nick cable
round here

I don't suppose it's the locals around here that go in for it, pikeys
don't have flatbed transits round your way?

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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One thing worth worrying about is that the new BT broadband system is now
using cabinets very similar to the ones Virgin have used. I predict the
same situation there very shortly.

Brian


The good news is that engineers who access BT cabinets use a key.
*some* VM contractors have a completely different approach to accessing a
cabinet.

Sheila

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Brian Gaff wrote:
One thing worth worrying about is that the new BT broadband system is now
using cabinets very similar to the ones Virgin have used. I predict the same
situation there very shortly.

Who on earth told you that ? BT's FTTC cabinets are some of the most
secure I've seen ?

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On 07/02/2011 19:06, Mark Carver wrote:
Graham. wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
...

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

The primary locking mechanism seems to rely on a pair of granny's
knitting
needles.

Well on my way home tonight, a fast response repair team seem to have
visited, and reinstated the high security cable ties, and applied some
more insulation tape just to make su-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg

Personally I would have used metal strapping rather than cable ties.
The local council 'round 'ere often use it to secure the access panels
for street lamps.
But what do I know?
Dave
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"ian field" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
ian field wrote:
"Sheila" wrote in message

I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not
totally convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known
to use force to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to
vandalise the contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first
sight of the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power

95% of 0 is...........................
There is a mass of around 50 coax cables connected to the network in the
centre of the photo. Mark's statement is a fair approximation.

Sheila

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"ian field" wrote in message
...

"Sheila" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

http://www.paras.org.uk/


I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use
force to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise
the contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first sight
of the fibre-optic cables.


The UK's Cable TV/Broadband network uses coax to distribute the network from
street cabinets to customers homes.

Sheila

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone
boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more
brown curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they
were very rarely vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era
of the 1950s and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what
happened?

Socialism.

The 'never had it so good' phrase was coined by Harold MacMillan. Didn't
know he was a socialist. That's what I like about here - you learn
something new every day.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article , lid says...

ian field wrote:
"Sheila" wrote in message

I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use force
to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise the
contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first sight of
the fibre-optic cables.

95% of the cables in there are copper coax, and power

No Mark.

The subscriber drop cables will be copper plated steel and the trunk cables copper plated
aluminium, so very little copper in there at all (apart from power).

My first experiences of cable was in the East End of London. It wasn't vandals who were
the problem but the kids.

The early build used locks with a triangular section key and were reasonably secure -
until gas and electricity meters started appearing in external boxes with identical
locks, albeit plastic.

Suddenly, every kid in the arera had a plastic cabinet key in its pocket!

The thing was, they didn't vandalise the cabinets - their idea of fun was to open them
and switch the power off!

--

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone
boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more
brown curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they
were very rarely vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era
of the 1950s and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what
happened?

Socialism.

The 'never had it so good' phrase was coined by Harold MacMillan. Didn't
know he was a socialist.

"We are all socialists now"


(1894, liberal MP)

That's what I like about here - you learn
something new every day.


I never said that Macmillan was the star of it, its just that giving
people a free lunch seems to mean they don't want to eat it and resent
getting it.

They still *vote* for it, mind you.

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In article , lid says...

Graham. wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
...

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

The primary locking mechanism seems to rely on a pair of granny's knitting
needles.

Well on my way home tonight, a fast response repair team seem to have visited,
and reinstated the high security cable ties, and applied some more insulation
tape just to make su-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg

Did you forget to turn on the flash? All I'm getting here is a blank black screen ...

(The first one is still ok.)

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"Sheila" wrote in message
...

"ian field" wrote in message
...

"Sheila" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Photographed this on my walk to work this morning:-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox.jpg (850k)

Last week, the daisy chained white cable ties were half way up the
cabinet, holding the door closed, quelle surprise this morning it looks
like this. Curiously the vandals haven't ripped the guts out (yet)

I don't know who's the dimmest. The vandals, or Virgin Media for such a
pathetically insecure installation ?

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I would go with "Virgin Media for such a pathetically insecure
installation". It may have been visited by vandals, but I am not totally
convinced. Three observations, VM contractors have been known to use
force to gain access to cabinets, no attempt has been made to vandalise
the contents

That'll be because it was copper thieves who lost interest at first sight
of the fibre-optic cables.


The UK's Cable TV/Broadband network uses coax to distribute the network
from street cabinets to customers homes.


But as Terry has pointed out, it's not copper it's a stainless steel copper
plated inner and stainless steel braid, or all of the stuff that I've ever
seen (or used) has been, going right back to the days of the original United
Artists.

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Mark Carver wrote:
ian field wrote:


They're just making it obvious there's nothing in there worth nicking.

This is one of the UK's most prosperous towns, people don't nick cable
round here, they don't need to, unemployment is quoted in 'hundreds'
rather than percent. Instead they go round mindlessly destroying
everything they can. The Post Office have even decommissioned a pillar
box outside of an arcade of shops, because of repeated vandalism. It was
so popular, you'd often have the mail brimming out of the slot. The
nearest alternative is now a mile away.

Bring back the birch!

Bill

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In message ,
Terry Casey writes
In article ,
says...

Graham. wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
...

That picture tells you all you'd want to know about VM.

Linked cable ties "securing" a door - FFS. BT's customer service may be
the pits, but at least their engineering hasn't sunk to that level.

Yet.

The primary locking mechanism seems to rely on a pair of granny's knitting
needles.

Well on my way home tonight, a fast response repair team seem to have
visited,
and reinstated the high security cable ties, and applied some more
insulation
tape just to make su-

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg

Did you forget to turn on the flash? All I'm getting here is a blank
black screen ...

(The first one is still ok.)

The first time I looked at the photo, it was OK. Now its all dark.
However, the EXIF data says the flash did fire.
--
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone
boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more
brown curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they
were very rarely vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era
of the 1950s and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what
happened?

Socialism.

The 'never had it so good' phrase was coined by Harold MacMillan. Didn't
know he was a socialist. That's what I like about here - you learn
something new every day.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


--
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I grew up and are really poor area when I was a kid, the red telephone
boxes contained a coin box, a handset connected with nothing more
brown curly wire and a usually intact set of directories, yet they
were very rarely vandalised, then came the 'Never Had It So Good' era
of the 1950s and everything seemed to go so terribly wrong, what
happened?

Socialism.

The 'never had it so good' phrase was coined by Harold MacMillan. Didn't
know he was a socialist. That's what I like about here - you learn
something new every day.


The expression was plagiarised from the USA Democratic Party's slogan for
the 1952 Election which was "You Never Had it so Good"!
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Ian Jackson wrote:

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg

Did you forget to turn on the flash? All I'm getting here is a blank
black screen ...

(The first one is still ok.)

The first time I looked at the photo, it was OK. Now its all dark.
However, the EXIF data says the flash did fire.

Indeed it did, but the camera's generally not that good. It does have a
really good mobile phone application though, and that does work very well.

Anyway, I'll take a shot in daylight tomorrow morning, and update the
gruesome picture.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Ian Jackson wrote:

http://www.markyboy.net/vmbox2.jpg

Did you forget to turn on the flash? All I'm getting here is a blank
black screen ...

(The first one is still ok.)

The first time I looked at the photo, it was OK. Now its all dark.
However, the EXIF data says the flash did fire.

Indeed it did, but the camera's generally not that good. It does have a
really good mobile phone application though, and that does work very well.

Anyway, I'll take a shot in daylight tomorrow morning, and update the
gruesome picture.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/virgin.jpg