Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:

Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

"Mick." wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but
I would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of
sorts, that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.








I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

If you had one of the TV technologies that suffer screen burn, you might by now ;-)

Or he can use the tried and tested zooming technique used in You've Been Framed
that hides the fact that the camcorder clips are 20 years old.

--
Graham.

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Martin wrote:

Anyone have any idea please?
Get a hat and fix a forward facing rod on it, with a piece of black card
hanging down from the end. As long as you align your head carefully and
then keep it still throughout the programme it will obscure the DOG.

Hope this helps.

Australians can use corks.

Yes, apparently in Australia they call digital on screen graphics 'dingos'.

Bill

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...
I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

That does not leave many channels to choose between though does it, most on
Freeview have them, some are not too bad but 5 has a really bright one.
Here is an online petition I found to get them removed.


http://www.petition.com/DOG/petition.html

Mick.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

Sorry here is a better link for the DOG removal petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/DOG/petition.html

Mick.

"Mick." wrote in message
om...

"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...
I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

That does not leave many channels to choose between though does it, most
on Freeview have them, some are not too bad but 5 has a really bright one.
Here is an online petition I found to get them removed.


http://www.petition.com/DOG/petition.html

Mick.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:45:20 -0000, Mick. wrote:

"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...
I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

That does not leave many channels to choose between though does it, most on
Freeview have them, some are not too bad but 5 has a really bright one.
Here is an online petition I found to get them removed.

http://www.petition.com/DOG/petition.html

Mick.

The DOG is the least of Five's drawbacks: films with 10 min. on - 5 min. off
(some dhannels have 2 breaks an hour); 30 min. progs. with 20 min. of
content (Highland Emergency often finishes at around 7 - 8 min. to the
time).

On the first day that Five was on satellite, I watched a film that was
ruined by the frequent, long breaks. I've watched very little on Five since
then. I see something on, then realise that it's on Five and so don't
bother.

Off to look at the petition.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

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On 16/01/2011 20:30, tim.... wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000,
wrote:

Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but
I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

They never bothered me in the first place.

I can't see what all the fuss is about :-(

tim


Most of the time there is no problem. But wait till you see a DOG which
has moving graphics. That is a distracting nuisance.

--

Jeff

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Does anyone actually know why these are so often used now?If it were just a
case of someone knowing where a source was from on a pirate video then there
will be much more crafty ways to do this in the digital stream, if it really
was to let people know that they are watching a particular thing and
channel, then they must have a very poor idea of intelligence of people. I
suspect its some kind of vanity corporate thing in which case its a load of
tosh.

Brian

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"Mick." wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but
I would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of
sorts, that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

Ah, they have started to control the way you think. all those almost
invisible messages inside the dog have worked.

Brian

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"Scott" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:

Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but
I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

Well the blind have no audio dog, I demand an audio dog.

Brian

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"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Scott
wrote

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

It's reassuring to have it confirmed that one is watching the correct
channel after the advert break.

--
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:18:31 +0000, PeterC
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:45:20 -0000, Mick. wrote:

"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...
I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

That does not leave many channels to choose between though does it, most on
Freeview have them, some are not too bad but 5 has a really bright one.
Here is an online petition I found to get them removed.

http://www.petition.com/DOG/petition.html

Mick.

The DOG is the least of Five's drawbacks: films with 10 min. on - 5 min. off
(some dhannels have 2 breaks an hour); 30 min. progs. with 20 min. of
content (Highland Emergency often finishes at around 7 - 8 min. to the
time).

At least you can use a PVR or even a VCR to skip advert breaks.
There's little you can do about DOGs and other annoying interruptions
during the actual programme.

Some DOGs are worse than others but I find them all distracting and
irritating so I, also, do not watch any programmes that have a DOG.

I realize that many people do not mind them but they serve no useful
purpose and a lot of us find them very annoying.

Off to look at the petition.

It's only got 278 signatures and it seems to be aimed at US TV
companies.
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In article , says...

Well the blind have no audio dog, I demand an audio dog.

Brian

Be careful - be very, very careful ...

And if you persist in this madness, please, please, please pray for
it to be on AD only ...

--

Terry

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On Jan 16, 7:24*pm, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:









Hi all,

* * *I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. *I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Sounds like you spend more time watching trashy channels than main
ones. :-) I suppose us humans can be trained to accept anything as
normal.

FWIW I find them all quite irritating, except the BBC One HD one,
which I can often ignore - it being well out of the way, and very
feint.

I think BBC Four is the worst - it's obviously not the worst DOG in
and of itself, but it's in the 4x3 safe area of 16x9 programmes (i.e.
near the middle of the screen!) - and some of the programme are quite
dark and/or serious, which makes the DOG stand-out.

Cheers,
David.

Masking "Dogs" on TV Screen.
 

Jeff Layman wrote:

Most of the time there is no problem. But wait till you see a DOG which
has moving graphics. That is a distracting nuisance.


CBBC.

BugBear

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On 17/01/2011 11:16, bugbear wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:

Most of the time there is no problem. But wait till you see a DOG which
has moving graphics. That is a distracting nuisance.


CBBC.


Spot on. I now wait until "The Sarah Jane Adventures" are repeated on
BBC1, and avoid the CBBC hyperactive DOG.

I haven't seen these moving DOGs anywhere else, but believe I read
somewhere that they are prevalent on Sky channels. Are they anywhere
else on Freeview/Freesat?

--

Jeff

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In article , Tim.... wrote:
I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

They never bothered me in the first place.

I can't see what all the fuss is about :-(

They bothered me "in the first place", because "in the first place", i.e.
when broadcasting used to be about broadcasting, there weren't any.
Neither were the end credits speeded up, nor squashed into illegibility,
nor had anybody talking over them, programmes were neither preceeded with
jumpy resumes of the previous episodes nor followed by half the plot of
the next ones. In other words, nothing deliberately blemished or
interrupted a programme from the moment it started until it had ended,
because what the broadcasters existed for was, as their name suggests,
the broadcasts, and not the opportunity to buy a DVD. It's sad that
anyone can become so accustomed to this vandalism as to take it for
granted. It's a sign that we are gradually forgetting what broadcasting
is for.

Rod.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:27:51 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote:

On 17/01/2011 11:16, bugbear wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:

Most of the time there is no problem. But wait till you see a DOG which
has moving graphics. That is a distracting nuisance.


CBBC.


Spot on. I now wait until "The Sarah Jane Adventures" are repeated on
BBC1, and avoid the CBBC hyperactive DOG.

I haven't seen these moving DOGs anywhere else, but believe I read
somewhere that they are prevalent on Sky channels. Are they anywhere
else on Freeview/Freesat?

Perhaps they are all running an competition to see who can display the
most annoying DOG?
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:10:43 -0800 (PST),
"
wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:24*pm, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:
Hi all,

* * *I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. *I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Sounds like you spend more time watching trashy channels than main
ones. :-) I suppose us humans can be trained to accept anything as
normal.

FWIW I find them all quite irritating, except the BBC One HD one,
which I can often ignore - it being well out of the way, and very
feint.

I think BBC Four is the worst - it's obviously not the worst DOG in
and of itself, but it's in the 4x3 safe area of 16x9 programmes (i.e.
near the middle of the screen!) - and some of the programme are quite
dark and/or serious, which makes the DOG stand-out.

But BBC4 is not transmitted in 4x3 anywhere AFAIK? Personnaly I think
there are worse DOGs on BBC3, Dave, Five, etc, etc....... (But I hate
them all).

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"Mick." wrote in message
om...

"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...
I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

That does not leave many channels to choose between though does it, most
on Freeview have them, some are not too bad but 5 has a really bright one.
Here is an online petition I found to get them removed.


http://www.petition.com/DOG/petition.html

Mick.





That's true. I live in a 4 channel world plus Film Four.

I'm just not part of the so called "competitive multi channel market".

It's not me filtering the channels so much as the channels filtering
themselves from me. Anything of any importance will be on DVDrip or
broadcast without DOG ****.

It is they who are sub-par and defective, not I!

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"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:10:43 -0800 (PST),
"
wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:24 pm, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:
Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better,
but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of
sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Sounds like you spend more time watching trashy channels than main
ones. :-) I suppose us humans can be trained to accept anything as
normal.

FWIW I find them all quite irritating, except the BBC One HD one,
which I can often ignore - it being well out of the way, and very
feint.

I think BBC Four is the worst - it's obviously not the worst DOG in
and of itself, but it's in the 4x3 safe area of 16x9 programmes (i.e.
near the middle of the screen!) - and some of the programme are quite
dark and/or serious, which makes the DOG stand-out.

But BBC4 is not transmitted in 4x3 anywhere AFAIK?

It can be *received* in 4:3 if you have a non-widescreen TV.

Personnaly I think
there are worse DOGs on BBC3,

BBC3. Yuk. Lurid pink.

--
Max Demian

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:35:49 +0000, Java Jive
wrote:

They regularly have others ... Next programme advertising that drops
down from the Eurosport DOG, which is already far too big anyway, that
obscures the ball in the middle of a tennis rally.

It's obvious that the managers/bosses don't watch their own TV
channel.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:05:55 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Tim.... wrote:
I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

They never bothered me in the first place.

I can't see what all the fuss is about :-(

They bothered me "in the first place", because "in the first place", i.e.
when broadcasting used to be about broadcasting, there weren't any.
Neither were the end credits speeded up, nor squashed into illegibility,
nor had anybody talking over them, programmes were neither preceeded with
jumpy resumes of the previous episodes nor followed by half the plot of
the next ones. In other words, nothing deliberately blemished or
interrupted a programme from the moment it started until it had ended,
because what the broadcasters existed for was, as their name suggests,
the broadcasts, and not the opportunity to buy a DVD. It's sad that
anyone can become so accustomed to this vandalism as to take it for
granted. It's a sign that we are gradually forgetting what broadcasting
is for.

I'm of the opinion that, if a programme is good enough to show, then
it should not be interrupted, defaced or squeezed. It's plain
vandalism, like graffiti.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:09:18 -0000, "Light of Aria"
wrote:


"Mick." wrote in message
news:[email protected] com...

"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...
I mask DOG **** by not watching channels with DOG ****.

That does not leave many channels to choose between though does it, most
on Freeview have them, some are not too bad but 5 has a really bright one.
Here is an online petition I found to get them removed.


http://www.petition.com/DOG/petition.html

That's true. I live in a 4 channel world plus Film Four.

Which four? Only BBC1,2 and Film4 are devoid of vandalism AFAIK
(Except children's programmes sometimes on BBC).

I'm just not part of the so called "competitive multi channel market".

It's not me filtering the channels so much as the channels filtering
themselves from me. Anything of any importance will be on DVDrip or
broadcast without DOG ****.

It is they who are sub-par and defective, not I!


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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:24:03 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 16/01/2011 20:30, tim.... wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000,
wrote:

Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.



I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but
I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.



Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

They never bothered me in the first place.

I can't see what all the fuss is about :-(

tim


Most of the time there is no problem. But wait till you see a DOG which
has moving graphics. That is a distracting nuisance.

CBBC is one (well, animated rather than moving) and can be distracting.
Fortunately I watch that channel very little, as only Sarah Jane is of
interest.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

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Mick. said the following on 16/01/2011 18:52:
Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

We're just lucky that they don't get as big as the old comedy series
which used to be on BET and that was one quarter of the screen.

I did send to Genius an ever so slightly sarcastic idea of having
DOGless channels and no announcements of what's coming up next so that
we wouldn't know what channel we were watching and then couldn't be
arsed to change channels as we usually do.

Richard.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:37:11 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:10:43 -0800 (PST),
"
wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:24 pm, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:
Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better,
but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of
sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Sounds like you spend more time watching trashy channels than main
ones. :-) I suppose us humans can be trained to accept anything as
normal.

FWIW I find them all quite irritating, except the BBC One HD one,
which I can often ignore - it being well out of the way, and very
feint.

I think BBC Four is the worst - it's obviously not the worst DOG in
and of itself, but it's in the 4x3 safe area of 16x9 programmes (i.e.
near the middle of the screen!) - and some of the programme are quite
dark and/or serious, which makes the DOG stand-out.

But BBC4 is not transmitted in 4x3 anywhere AFAIK?

It can be *received* in 4:3 if you have a non-widescreen TV.

I guess you can crop any widescreen picture to 4:3 but the "old"
channels are always transmitted in 4:3 on analogue.

Personnaly I think
there are worse DOGs on BBC3,

BBC3. Yuk. Lurid pink.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:09:45 +0000, Mark
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:37:11 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Mark" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:10:43 -0800 (PST),
"
wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:24 pm, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:
Hi all,

I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better,
but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of
sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Sounds like you spend more time watching trashy channels than main
ones. :-) I suppose us humans can be trained to accept anything as
normal.

FWIW I find them all quite irritating, except the BBC One HD one,
which I can often ignore - it being well out of the way, and very
feint.

I think BBC Four is the worst - it's obviously not the worst DOG in
and of itself, but it's in the 4x3 safe area of 16x9 programmes (i.e.
near the middle of the screen!) - and some of the programme are quite
dark and/or serious, which makes the DOG stand-out.

But BBC4 is not transmitted in 4x3 anywhere AFAIK?

It can be *received* in 4:3 if you have a non-widescreen TV.

I guess you can crop any widescreen picture to 4:3 but the "old"
channels are always transmitted in 4:3 on analogue.

I thought it was 14:9 for BBC.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:10:43 -0800 (PST),
"
wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:24*pm, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:52:27 -0000, "Mick."
wrote:









Hi all,

* * *I have been searching online to see if anyone has come up with an
effective way to

Mask the "Dogs" on our TV Screens.

I use a cardboard strip hung over the top of the set, which is better, but I
would have hoped that by now someone might have made a diffuser of sorts,
that might mask it if nothing else.

Anyone have any idea please?

Mick.

I know this is complete heresy on this group, but I have started to
get used to them. *I sometimes think something is missing if there is
no DOG.

Sounds like you spend more time watching trashy channels than main
ones. :-) I suppose us humans can be trained to accept anything as
normal.

No. Mostly BBC One and BBC HD.

FWIW I find them all quite irritating, except the BBC One HD one,
which I can often ignore - it being well out of the way, and very
feint.

May explain my tolerance.

I think BBC Four is the worst - it's obviously not the worst DOG in
and of itself, but it's in the 4x3 safe area of 16x9 programmes (i.e.
near the middle of the screen!) - and some of the programme are quite
dark and/or serious, which makes the DOG stand-out.

Cheers,
David.