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I'm just toying with the idea of getting a Freesat dish to get a few
more channels than with Freeview. The main obstacle is the need to put
in another coax downlead. There is a bit of plastic ducting buried in
the wall leading up to the loft, but unfortunately it's already full
with one TV lead and one for the FM radio, and I don't want to do
without either at the moment. It's not obvious to me that any two of
these three signals could easily share one downlead either.

I'm still considering buying a dish and LNB and doing the installation
myself - from other threads here recently it doesn't sound to be all
that difficult. On the other hand the cost probably won't be much less
than getting a firm of dish installers to do the whole thing. But I've
no doubt their standard method of installation will be to drill a nasty
hole in the living room wall or through a window frame and make a not
very neat job, which will be annoying to look at for ever after.

But, I've been thinking... There seem to be a good many video senders on
the market now and it occurs to me that this technology ought to be
provide a much neater solution: put the lead from the dish into the
loft, have a satellite receiver and video sender in the loft, and
transmit the signal wirelessly down to the TV. Is it feasible to do
something like that, to avoid all the nasty installation of yet another
coax downlead?

--
Clive Page

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On Jan 15, 6:09*pm, Clive Page wrote:
I'm just toying with the idea of getting a Freesat dish to get a few
more channels than with Freeview. * The main obstacle is the need to put
in another coax downlead. * There is a bit of plastic ducting buried in
the wall leading up to the loft, but unfortunately it's already full
with one TV lead and one for the FM radio, and I don't want to do
without either at the moment. *It's not obvious to me that any two of
these three signals could easily share one downlead either.

I'm still considering buying a dish and LNB and doing the installation
myself - from other threads here recently it doesn't sound to be all
that difficult. *On the other hand the cost probably won't be much less
than getting a firm of dish installers to do the whole thing. *But I've
no doubt their standard method of installation will be to drill a nasty
hole in the living room wall or through a window frame and make a not
very neat job, which will be annoying to look at for ever after.

But, I've been thinking... There seem to be a good many video senders on
the market now and it occurs to me that this technology ought to be
provide a much neater solution: put the lead from the dish into the
loft, have a satellite receiver and video sender in the loft, and
transmit the signal wirelessly down to the TV. *Is it feasible to do
something like that, to avoid all the nasty installation of yet another
coax downlead?

--
Clive Page

Why not combine the FM and TV into one downlead, and then use the
other for the RF out of the satellite box, with a 'magic eye' on the
end?

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"airsmoothed" wrote in message ...
On Jan 15, 6:09 pm, Clive Page wrote:
I'm just toying with the idea of getting a Freesat dish to get a few
more channels than with Freeview. The main obstacle is the need to put
in another coax downlead. There is a bit of plastic ducting buried in
the wall leading up to the loft, but unfortunately it's already full
with one TV lead and one for the FM radio, and I don't want to do
without either at the moment. It's not obvious to me that any two of
these three signals could easily share one downlead either.

I'm still considering buying a dish and LNB and doing the installation
myself - from other threads here recently it doesn't sound to be all
that difficult. On the other hand the cost probably won't be much less
than getting a firm of dish installers to do the whole thing. But I've
no doubt their standard method of installation will be to drill a nasty
hole in the living room wall or through a window frame and make a not
very neat job, which will be annoying to look at for ever after.

But, I've been thinking... There seem to be a good many video senders on
the market now and it occurs to me that this technology ought to be
provide a much neater solution: put the lead from the dish into the
loft, have a satellite receiver and video sender in the loft, and
transmit the signal wirelessly down to the TV. Is it feasible to do
something like that, to avoid all the nasty installation of yet another
coax downlead?

--
Clive Page

Why not combine the FM and TV into one downlead, and then use the
other for the RF out of the satellite box, with a 'magic eye' on the
end?

Personally I would want something better than RF modulated PAL
with mono sound on my main TV.

He could diplex the UHF and VHF/FM onto one cable, and use the second
for the satellite I.F.

Better still, he could use both cables for satellite I.F. from a quad LNB for a Freesat+
or HD box and triplex the UHF and VHF/FM onto one or both cables, although to
be honest I'm not sure which domestic grade loftbox will do that.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

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"Clive Page" wrote in message
...
I'm just toying with the idea of getting a Freesat dish to get
a few more channels than with Freeview. The main obstacle is
the need to put in another coax downlead. There is a bit of
plastic ducting buried in the wall leading up to the loft, but
unfortunately it's already full with one TV lead and one for
the FM radio, and I don't want to do without either at the
moment. It's not obvious to me that any two of these three
signals could easily share one downlead either.

I'm still considering buying a dish and LNB and doing the
installation myself - from other threads here recently it
doesn't sound to be all that difficult. On the other hand the
cost probably won't be much less than getting a firm of dish
installers to do the whole thing. But I've no doubt their
standard method of installation will be to drill a nasty hole
in the living room wall or through a window frame and make a
not very neat job, which will be annoying to look at for ever
after.

But, I've been thinking... There seem to be a good many video
senders on the market now and it occurs to me that this
technology ought to be provide a much neater solution: put the
lead from the dish into the loft, have a satellite receiver and
video sender in the loft, and transmit the signal wirelessly
down to the TV. Is it feasible to do something like that, to
avoid all the nasty installation of yet another coax downlead?

--
Clive Page



If you already have two cables to the loft then just duplex TV
and FM together and leave the other cable for Sat. Having said
that Sat requires foil screened cable so if the cable in the duct
is the old brown stuff forget it.

The other option is to drill a hole through the wall in the back
of the wall box on which the outlet socket is mounted and fit a
dish as near as possible to it. Remember the dish does not have
to be high up - in fact it can be at ground level provided it has
a clear view of the sky in a roughly SE direction.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

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How do you send the polarisation, etc switching to the lnb though? I guess
you could power it locally, but you would need a psu some place.

Brian

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"Clive Page" wrote in message
...
I'm just toying with the idea of getting a Freesat dish to get a few more
channels than with Freeview. The main obstacle is the need to put in
another coax downlead. There is a bit of plastic ducting buried in the
wall leading up to the loft, but unfortunately it's already full with one
TV lead and one for the FM radio, and I don't want to do without either at
the moment. It's not obvious to me that any two of these three signals
could easily share one downlead either.

I'm still considering buying a dish and LNB and doing the installation
myself - from other threads here recently it doesn't sound to be all that
difficult. On the other hand the cost probably won't be much less than
getting a firm of dish installers to do the whole thing. But I've no
doubt their standard method of installation will be to drill a nasty hole
in the living room wall or through a window frame and make a not very neat
job, which will be annoying to look at for ever after.

But, I've been thinking... There seem to be a good many video senders on
the market now and it occurs to me that this technology ought to be
provide a much neater solution: put the lead from the dish into the loft,
have a satellite receiver and video sender in the loft, and transmit the
signal wirelessly down to the TV. Is it feasible to do something like
that, to avoid all the nasty installation of yet another coax downlead?

--
Clive Page

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In message , Woody
writes
If you already have two cables to the loft then just duplex TV
and FM together and leave the other cable for Sat. Having said
that Sat requires foil screened cable so if the cable in the duct
is the old brown stuff forget it.

It is unfortunately the old brown stuff, so I'd have to pull the old
cable out of the duct and hope I could pull the Sat quality one in its
place. That might be possible, but I won't know until I try it.


--
Clive Page

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"Colin Stamp" wrote in message o.uk...
On 16/01/11 18:57, Clive Page wrote:

It is unfortunately the old brown stuff, so I'd have to pull the old
cable out of the duct and hope I could pull the Sat quality one in its
place. That might be possible, but I won't know until I try it.

Don't write off your current cables just yet.

I have two runs of brown crap running from lounge to the loft. One went to the TV aerial and the other carried the bedroom feed
back up from the lounge. When I wanted to try Sky ages ago, I just cut off the aerial one as it emerged into the loft, fitted a
SAT/TV diplexer and ran decent co-ax the rest of the way to the dish. Then I put another SAT/TV diplexer in the lounge and
everything worked fine for years until I ditched Sky because of the cost.

I know a couple of other people that have done pretty-much the same thing as well. Of course it's not ideal and it'll cut into the
fade margin but, if you keep the brown bit as short as possible, it'll most likely be fine. It's worth a punt at-least.

Take it from me, someone who has used 40 year old coax for satellite
and 2 pair telephone cable instead of CAT5 for ethernet, if it's not too long,
it will work.
Needs must when the devil drives.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

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Colin Stamp wrote:
On 16/01/11 18:57, Clive Page wrote:

It is unfortunately the old brown stuff, so I'd have to pull the old
cable out of the duct and hope I could pull the Sat quality one in its
place. That might be possible, but I won't know until I try it.

Don't write off your current cables just yet.

I have two runs of brown crap running from lounge to the loft. One went
to the TV aerial and the other carried the bedroom feed back up from the
lounge. When I wanted to try Sky ages ago, I just cut off the aerial one
as it emerged into the loft, fitted a SAT/TV diplexer and ran decent
co-ax the rest of the way to the dish. Then I put another SAT/TV
diplexer in the lounge and everything worked fine for years until I
ditched Sky because of the cost.

I know a couple of other people that have done pretty-much the same
thing as well. Of course it's not ideal and it'll cut into the fade
margin but, if you keep the brown bit as short as possible, it'll most
likely be fine. It's worth a punt at-least.

Yes, it's always worth a try for a short run. The output of the LNB is
usually about 30dB above the point where receiver noise would be a problem.

Bill

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In message , Bill Wright
writes
Yes, it's always worth a try for a short run. The output of the LNB is
usually about 30dB above the point where receiver noise would be a
problem.

That's encouraging - seems worth a try. Thanks to all who contributed
to this thread.


--
Clive Page

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"Clive Page" wrote in message ...
I'm just toying with the idea of getting a Freesat dish to get a few
more channels than with Freeview. The main obstacle is the need to put
in another coax downlead. There is a bit of plastic ducting buried in
the wall leading up to the loft, but unfortunately it's already full
with one TV lead and one for the FM radio, and I don't want to do
without either at the moment. It's not obvious to me that any two of
these three signals could easily share one downlead either.

I'm still considering buying a dish and LNB and doing the installation
myself - from other threads here recently it doesn't sound to be all
that difficult. On the other hand the cost probably won't be much less
than getting a firm of dish installers to do the whole thing. But I've
no doubt their standard method of installation will be to drill a nasty
hole in the living room wall or through a window frame and make a not
very neat job, which will be annoying to look at for ever after.

But, I've been thinking... There seem to be a good many video senders on
the market now and it occurs to me that this technology ought to be
provide a much neater solution: put the lead from the dish into the
loft, have a satellite receiver and video sender in the loft, and
transmit the signal wirelessly down to the TV. Is it feasible to do
something like that, to avoid all the nasty installation of yet another
coax downlead?

--
Clive Page

Use one or other to pull a new CT100 cable through and then

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