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Bill Wright[_2_] January 2nd 11 05:29 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms? To name but a few:

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".
The telly came in a cardbox box that just wasn't right at all.
The rabbit ears aerial didn't look at all right for the period. What's
more, at that distance from Holme Moss the dealer would surely have sold
them a proper outside aerial...
When the picture faded in and out the screen went to noise, like a UHF
analogue set would. The old sets just went to a dull slightly noisy
screen and the sound went silent.
The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?

I haven't bothered to verify these comments by searching the net for
facts; these are just 'feelings' I had that things weren't right.

I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.

I post this not in the spirit of criticising the programme, which I
thought was a brilliant bit of drama, but for sheer nerdy nitpicking fun.

Bill

Richard Tobin January 2nd 11 05:37 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms?


No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.

Hope this helps,
-- Richard

David January 2nd 11 06:13 PM

Eric and Ernie
 


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than 12
inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front of
the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen with
very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.
When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was for
the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably 9
inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12 inch.
This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only used 2
hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all the
others were table models.
No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later design
of X shape, I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into the TV
set.

I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.
Regards
David


Rick January 2nd 11 06:41 PM

Eric and Ernie
 

"David" wrote in message
...


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than 12
inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front of
the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen with
very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.
When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was
for the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably 9
inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12 inch.
This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only used 2
hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all the
others were table models.
No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later
design of X shape, I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into
the TV set.
I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.



I was fortunate enough to watch the 1953 Coronation on a neighbour's rented
Rediffusion WRS 101 (Philips) projection television, ironically later in
life I was gainfully employed in smashing up literally thousands of those
and similar model projection TVs (many of them brand new) which had been
superseded by large screen direct view CRT's.






Ian Jackson[_2_] January 2nd 11 06:47 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
In message , David
writes


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late
1940s model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought
before ITV started and none of them were less that 12".


Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than
12 inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front
of the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen
with very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.


When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was
for the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably
9 inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12
inch. This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only
used 2 hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all
the others were table models.


By 1954, various friends had TV sets. [Despite my pleadings, we didn't
get one until 1967 - a 17" Sobel costing £75.]. I don't recall seeing
any less than 14". When the transmitter closed down, the picture
certainly went very snowy (which, because of the AGC, you would expect
it to). Any sets which didn't probably had poor - or no - AGC.

No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later
design of X shape,


This did rather spoil things for me. The problems with getting a good
picture were completely unnecessary.

I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into the TV set.

Some had a small 2-pin plug - one pin a larger diameter, so it couldn't
go in the wrong way round.

I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.

--
Ian

Bill Wright[_2_] January 2nd 11 08:14 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms?


No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.

Hope this helps,
-- Richard

I hate Morecambe and Wise, but the programme was very good. You don't
have to like Hitler to enjoy a programme about him.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] January 2nd 11 08:19 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
David wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late
1940s model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought
before ITV started and none of them were less that 12".


Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than
12 inch"


Someone needs to look at one of those sites with old tellys on them.

I had several pre-ITV tellys that needed convertors for ITV and they
were 14" I think.

Bill

Bill Wright[_2_] January 2nd 11 08:22 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
Ian Jackson wrote:

Some had a small 2-pin plug - one pin a larger diameter, so it couldn't
go in the wrong way round.

Also used for the FM aerial on many combined TV/FM radio sets.

Some tellys had a saddle-clamp aerial connection.

Bill

Mark Carver January 2nd 11 08:28 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
Bill Wright wrote:

I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.


I recorded the programme, not seen it yet.

However, I did watch the Coronation Street drama-doc on BBC 4. The studio
gallery had far too modern looking equipment for 1960, including ISTR some 00s
1U router control panels in the desk upstand.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

David January 2nd 11 08:42 PM

Eric and Ernie
 


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

Someone needs to look at one of those sites with old tellys on them.

I had several pre-ITV tellys that needed convertors for ITV and they were
14" I think.


These are the sort I recall and referred to ones are on here.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/r...on+Sets,+1950s

Regards
David


the_constructor[_2_] January 2nd 11 08:55 PM

Eric and Ernie
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms?


No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.

Hope this helps,
-- Richard


I was brought up on Morecambe & Wise and they are good clean or should I say
were, commedians.
Lets see more on TV
Jim



Graham. January 2nd 11 09:00 PM

Eric and Ernie
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...
Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the
technological anachronisms?


No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.

Hope this helps,
-- Richard

I hate Morecambe and Wise, but the programme was very good. You don't have to like Hitler to enjoy a programme about him.

Bill


Ha. I was going to post something like that using the same analogy, I didn't
in case I upset Mr Godwin :-)

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



the_constructor[_2_] January 2nd 11 09:06 PM

Eric and Ernie
 

"David" wrote in message
...


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

Someone needs to look at one of those sites with old tellys on them.

I had several pre-ITV tellys that needed convertors for ITV and they were
14" I think.


These are the sort I recall and referred to ones are on here.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/r...on+Sets,+1950s

Regards
David


Looking at the link above, the TV that Mum & Dad had when I was a nipper
waas similar to Picture Reference: 10252900 but was badged Decca

I know that the TV engineer had to call and take the set away to put some
tuning coils in the tuner. We were considered posh because we had only 1 of
the 2 TV's in the street.

I also remember that when the picture went off Mum always used to give the
side of the cabinet a good old wallop to get it going again.

Jim




Graham. January 2nd 11 10:06 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ...
Bill Wright wrote:

I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong with the TV studio scenes.


I recorded the programme, not seen it yet.

However, I did watch the Coronation Street drama-doc on BBC 4. The studio gallery had far too modern looking equipment for 1960,
including ISTR some 00s 1U router control panels in the desk upstand.



Some of that clearly was recorded on the original locations at Quay St.
The walk through the props area looked genuine, and the cast meeting in
Committee Room "A" more so.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham. January 2nd 11 10:42 PM

Eric and Ernie
 

These are the sort I recall and referred to ones are on here.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/r...on+Sets,+1950s

Regards
David


Looking at the link above, the TV that Mum & Dad had when I was a nipper
waas similar to Picture Reference: 10252900 but was badged Decca

I know that the TV engineer had to call and take the set away to put some
tuning coils in the tuner. We were considered posh because we had only 1 of the 2 TV's in the street.

I also remember that when the picture went off Mum always used to give the
side of the cabinet a good old wallop to get it going again.

Jim


Our first TV was one of these, an HMV, model 1803 I think
http://rabstaff.99k.org/hmv.jpg

Then when ITV came along we stayed loyal to HMV with this 1871
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/hismasters_hmv_1871.html

This was probably the first set I ever did any work on. I certainly remember
replacing the "Fireball" tuner.

The set also had a "Metrosil" EHT regulator, but it seemed to work well without it
connected.

When I disposed of it in the mid 80s after 405 switch off it's original CRT had almost as
much emission as it had when new.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Dave Wade January 2nd 11 11:54 PM

Eric and Ernie
 


"David" wrote in message
...


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than 12
inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front of
the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen with
very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.
When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was
for the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably 9
inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12 inch.
This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only used 2
hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all the
others were table models.
No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later
design of X shape, I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into
the TV set.


We had a Pye V4 for many years. It took 3 Mins 35 seconds to warm up. I
think other models had a similar delay rather than the 20 seconds or so in
the program...

I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.
Regards
David



Michael Chare January 2nd 11 11:57 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms? To name but a few:


What surprised me is how long it is since the shows were originally
broadcast.


--
Michael Chare




Graham. January 3rd 11 12:51 AM

Eric and Ernie
 

We had a Pye V4 for many years. It took 3 Mins 35 seconds to warm up. I
think other models had a similar delay rather than the 20 seconds or so in the program...


I'm prepared to concede dramatic licence on that :-)


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Max Demian January 3rd 11 12:45 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 19:14:19 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms?

No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.


I hate Morecambe and Wise, but the programme was very good. You don't
have to like Hitler to enjoy a programme about him.


Just as well as otherwise they could turn off Discovery, Nat Geographic
and
History channel most of the time.


And Yesterday.

--
Max Demian



GordonD[_2_] January 3rd 11 01:37 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know
it's his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than a
comedy performer?
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."


Dave Plowman (News) January 3rd 11 02:03 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
In article ,
GordonD wrote:
Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know
it's his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than
a comedy performer?


Jim Moir is (I hope not was) a BBC LE director.

--
*You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Richard Tobin January 3rd 11 02:17 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

I hate Morecambe and Wise, but the programme was very good. You don't
have to like Hitler to enjoy a programme about him.


Fair point, though I usually find it works the other way round.
People tend to assume that because I'm interested in, say, science, I
must be interested in a biography of Stephen Hawking.

-- Richard

Phil Cook[_2_] January 3rd 11 02:32 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:03:30 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
GordonD wrote:
Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know
it's his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than
a comedy performer?


Jim Moir is (I hope not was) a BBC LE director.


Was. He retired in 2003.
--
Phil Cook

Jim Lesurf[_2_] January 3rd 11 03:13 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
In article ,
the_constructor wrote:


I was brought up on Morecambe & Wise and they are good clean or should I
say were, commedians.


You thought "It's cold out" was clean?... ;-

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Peter Duncanson January 3rd 11 04:49 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:37:30 -0000, "GordonD"
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know
it's his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than a
comedy performer?


According to the Wikipedia list of his TV appearances that is the only
time he has been credited as Jim Moir.

As you suggest it was probably because he was being an ac-tor rather
than being Vic Reeves.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Peter Duncanson January 3rd 11 04:50 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:49:53 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:37:30 -0000, "GordonD"
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know
it's his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than a
comedy performer?


According to the Wikipedia list of his TV appearances that is the only
time he has been credited as Jim Moir.

As you suggest it was probably because he was being an ac-tor rather
than being Vic Reeves.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Moi...on_appearances


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

J G Miller[_4_] January 3rd 11 04:51 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Monday, January 3rd, 2011 at 12:36:15h +0100, Our Favorite Martin explained:

I like not only M&W, but also Victoria Wood.


And your opinion of Mike and Bernie Winters?


Bill Wright[_2_] January 3rd 11 08:02 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
GordonD wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know
it's his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than
a comedy performer?

Evidently

Bill

Sofa - Spud January 3rd 11 09:02 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On 03/01/2011 11:27, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms? To name but a few:

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


I thought it was a 12". It looked very like our first TV, which we bought in
1953.

The telly came in a cardbox box that just wasn't right at all.
The rabbit ears aerial didn't look at all right for the period. What's
more, at that distance from Holme Moss the dealer would surely have sold
them a proper outside aerial...


Even if they didn't need it. Digitally Ready perhaps :-)

When the picture faded in and out the screen went to noise, like a UHF
analogue set would. The old sets just went to a dull slightly noisy
screen and the sound went silent.
The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


or even a Guinness bottle label?


I haven't bothered to verify these comments by searching the net for
facts; these are just 'feelings' I had that things weren't right.

I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.

I post this not in the spirit of criticising the programme, which I
thought was a brilliant bit of drama, but for sheer nerdy nitpicking fun.


Stir up umtm too :-)

Pay attention at the back umtm-ers.


If I'd seen it I'd have posted on it - for certain!


allantracy January 3rd 11 09:05 PM

Eric and Ernie
 

I would just like to say that I thought this production was a credit
to all concerned.

The central performances in particular were astounding and totally
believable throughout.

It’s not easy, indeed must be the hardest, to play celebrated comedy
giants whose personalities were honed, not just by their particular
uniqueness, but, most frighteningly of all, through many years and
thousands of performances in front of live audiences and are so
central to what made them tick.

I’ve seen many such attempts at the greats so easily turn cold but not
here.

I particularly liked the nude, I don’t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.

Anyway, Monkhouse tonight and, on the evidence of Eric and Ernie,
every reason to look forward.

CD January 3rd 11 09:56 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:05:03 -0800 (PST), allantracy
wrote:


I particularly liked the nude, I don’t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.


I laughed out loud & had to rewind that bit so my missus got the joke.
I don't remember the exact exchange, Ernie asked the name of the
stripper to which Eric responded "The 5 of spades" - all she was
wearing was black shoes & black gloves, & she had black hair.

Halmyre January 3rd 11 10:04 PM

Eric and Ernie
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:05:03 -0800 (PST), allantracy
wrote:


I particularly liked the nude, I don?t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.


I laughed out loud & had to rewind that bit so my missus got the joke.
I don't remember the exact exchange, Ernie asked the name of the
stripper to which Eric responded "The 5 of spades" - all she was
wearing was black shoes & black gloves, & she had black hair.


Six of spades, surely?

--
Halmyre

The more you know the less the better

Bartc January 3rd 11 11:11 PM

Eric and Ernie
 


"Halmyre" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:05:03 -0800 (PST), allantracy
wrote:


I particularly liked the nude, I don?t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.


I laughed out loud & had to rewind that bit so my missus got the joke.
I don't remember the exact exchange, Ernie asked the name of the
stripper to which Eric responded "The 5 of spades" - all she was
wearing was black shoes & black gloves, & she had black hair.


Six of spades, surely?


If you're looking that far up, yes.

--
Bartc


JNugent[_5_] January 4th 11 12:20 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
On 03/01/2011 11:27, Martin wrote:

[I can't find the OP on this server at all]

Bill wrote:


The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant.


100% agreement from here.

But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms? To name but a few:


The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


If you are complaining that it was too small, I think you're probably wrong.
The actual set used in the film was clearly a period item, though whether
available in 1854 is a moot point. I can recall - just - sets smaller than
12" - with a water-filled magnifying "glass" hung on the front of them in
some cases.

The set "discovered" by Eric's mum whilst cleaning earlier in the programme
was in terrible condition - it should have been nearly new.

I thought it was a 12". It looked very like our first TV, which we bought in
1953.


The telly came in a cardbox box that just wasn't right at all.


I said the same thing as I watched (last night). The cardboard box was
clearly producer's code for "new".

The rabbit ears aerial didn't look at all right for the period. What's
more, at that distance from Holme Moss the dealer would surely have sold
them a proper outside aerial...


Winter Hill / Rivington Pike for Morecambe, suurely?

Even if they didn't need it. Digitally Ready perhaps :-)


:-)

When the picture faded in and out the screen went to noise, like a UHF
analogue set would. The old sets just went to a dull slightly noisy
screen and the sound went silent.


The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


I noticed it but don't know what was "wrong" with it.

or even a Guinness bottle label?


Ah... the colour of a Guinness label... courtesy of my grandmother's and
great aunt's fondness for a bottle at home now and then, I was familiar with
that hue. Some of the money in a Monopoly set made me think "Guinness".

I haven't bothered to verify these comments by searching the net for
facts; these are just 'feelings' I had that things weren't right.
I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.
I post this not in the spirit of criticising the programme, which I
thought was a brilliant bit of drama, but for sheer nerdy nitpicking fun.


Stir up umtm too :-)
Pay attention at the back umtm-ers.


:-)

The whole film was sheer brilliance.

More in a similar vein, please.


JNugent[_5_] January 4th 11 12:21 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
On 03/01/2011 12:37, GordonD wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


Speaking of Vic Reeves, any idea why he was credited as Jim Moir? I know it's
his real name but does he use that when he's an ac-tor rather than a comedy
performer?


I assume so. The VO at the end referred to him by that name too.


JNugent[_5_] January 4th 11 12:22 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
On 03/01/2011 20:05, allantracy wrote:

I would just like to say that I thought this production was a credit
to all concerned.

The central performances in particular were astounding and totally
believable throughout.


Particularly the depiction of Ernie's voice - truly remarkable.

It’s not easy, indeed must be the hardest, to play celebrated comedy
giants whose personalities were honed, not just by their particular
uniqueness, but, most frighteningly of all, through many years and
thousands of performances in front of live audiences and are so
central to what made them tick.


I’ve seen many such attempts at the greats so easily turn cold but not
here.


I particularly liked the nude, I don’t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.


Don't remember that at all.

Anyway, Monkhouse tonight and, on the evidence of Eric and Ernie,
every reason to look forward.



JNugent[_5_] January 4th 11 12:23 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
On 03/01/2011 20:56, CD wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:05:03 -0800 (PST), allantracy
wrote:


I particularly liked the nude, I don’t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.


I laughed out loud& had to rewind that bit so my missus got the joke.
I don't remember the exact exchange, Ernie asked the name of the
stripper to which Eric responded "The 5 of spades" - all she was
wearing was black shoes& black gloves,& she had black hair.


The six of spades, surely?


JNugent[_5_] January 4th 11 12:23 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
On 03/01/2011 21:04, Halmyre wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:05:03 -0800 (PST), allantracy
wrote:


I particularly liked the nude, I don?t know what it was but I nearly
popped my cork at that particular performance.


I laughed out loud& had to rewind that bit so my missus got the joke.
I don't remember the exact exchange, Ernie asked the name of the
stripper to which Eric responded "The 5 of spades" - all she was
wearing was black shoes& black gloves,& she had black hair.


Six of spades, surely?


Snap.

Bill Wright[_2_] January 4th 11 12:59 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
JNugent wrote:

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


If you are complaining that it was too small, I think you're probably
wrong. The actual set used in the film was clearly a period item, though
whether available in 1854 is a moot point.

Doubtful. 1854 would be too early. And 1954 would be too late. That
telly on the programme was one of the immediate post-war ones that had a
round CRT.

I can recall - just - sets
smaller than 12" - with a water-filled magnifying "glass" hung on the
front of them in some cases.

I think it was liquid paraffin in some of the lenses. I cracked one once
and the stuff that came out was thicker than water.


The rabbit ears aerial didn't look at all right for the period. What's
more, at that distance from Holme Moss the dealer would surely have sold
them a proper outside aerial...


Winter Hill / Rivington Pike for Morecambe, suurely?

You'd be lucky in 1954! Morecambe used Holme Moss, and big aerials were
needed. Winter Hill was never part of the Band I network.

Bill

G DAEB January 4th 11 03:13 AM

Eric and Ernie
 
On Jan 3, 8:02*pm, Sofa - Spud wrote:
On 03/01/2011 11:27, Martin wrote:





On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:52 +0000, Bill *wrote:


The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms? To name but a few:


The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".


I thought it was a 12". It looked very like our first TV, which we bought in
1953.


The telly came in a cardbox box that just wasn't right at all.
The rabbit ears aerial didn't look at all right for the period. What's
more, at that distance from Holme Moss the dealer would surely have sold
them a proper outside aerial...


Even if they didn't need it. Digitally Ready perhaps :-)


When the picture faded in and out the screen went to noise, like a UHF
analogue set would. The old sets just went to a dull slightly noisy
screen and the sound went silent.
The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?


or even a Guinness bottle label?


I haven't bothered to verify these comments by searching the net for
facts; these are just 'feelings' I had that things weren't right.


I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.


I post this not in the spirit of criticising the programme, which I
thought was a brilliant bit of drama, but for sheer nerdy nitpicking fun.


Stir up umtm too :-)


Pay attention at the back umtm-ers.


If I'd seen it I'd have posted on it - for certain!- Hide quoted text -

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There's still stuff that can be said.

Like how Ernie never managed to achieve half
as much with Bert "milk & cookies" Muppet
as with Eric Morecambe, but is still dearly
loved--almost as much as Elmo.

G DAEB
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