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Keith[_7_] December 30th 10 09:53 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
I have a Panasonic DMR-XS350EB - worked fine.
Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic TX-L32X20B,
theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine when I
tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3" and the
remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.
I've tried the "hard" DVD reset (pressing up-and-down channel buttons, on
DVD recorder, for 5 seconds) - display still shows "DVD 3" and DVD remote
still does not control the DVD recorder - which has started to record a
couple of programmes setup earlier this week.
Which key sequences do I require to get my DVD recorder remote to work
again?

TIA

Keith



Richard Tobin December 30th 10 10:30 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
In article ,
Keith wrote:

Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic TX-L32X20B,
theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine when I
tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3" and the
remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.


Don't panic.

This is a feature that allows you to have several identical devices
and have one remote control work each one (instead of all of them
operating all the devices). You can set the "channel" to 1, 2, or 3.
You have inadvertently set the remote to a different channel from the
DVD recorder.

You can change the DVD recorder's channel from the on-screen menu.
But without the remote, you can't get to the menu.

You can change the remote's channel by some magic key combination. It
might be pressing "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds. Or maybe
"OK" and "3" - I don't remember whether the message refers to the
device's channel or the remote's. Or it may be some other combination;
it should say somewhere in the manual.

-- Richard

Keith[_7_] December 31st 10 12:17 AM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic TX-L32X20B,
theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine when I
tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3" and the
remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.


Don't panic.

This is a feature that allows you to have several identical devices
and have one remote control work each one (instead of all of them
operating all the devices). You can set the "channel" to 1, 2, or 3.
You have inadvertently set the remote to a different channel from the
DVD recorder.

You can change the DVD recorder's channel from the on-screen menu.


I think this is where I went wrong and changed it to "DVD 3".

But without the remote, you can't get to the menu.


Too true, so the menu options, page 119, can't be entered.

You can change the remote's channel by some magic key combination. It
might be pressing "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds. Or maybe
"OK" and "3" - I don't remember whether the message refers to the
device's channel or the remote's. Or it may be some other combination;
it should say somewhere in the manual.


I've tried "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds, also with "2" and
"3" - no joy and I haven't found any reference to any other key combinations
in the manual.

-- Richard


Manual says to press & hold "TV on/off" and enter code for television. I did
and got the DVD remote to work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons. But now the TV on/off button now turns off
the DVD, which means that I cannot now change this code. (page 105 in
manual).

There doesn't appear to an option to allow the TV remote to "get at" the DVD
menus.

Perhaps I need a means of resetting the DVD remote.



Richard Tobin December 31st 10 01:45 AM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I've tried "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds, also with "2" and
"3" - no joy and I haven't found any reference to any other key combinations
in the manual.


[...]

Perhaps I need a means of resetting the DVD remote.


That's what the combinations above are meant to do.

See page 119 of your manual: while pressing and holding [OK],
press and hold [3] for more than 5 seconds. (Perhaps you have
to press [OK] first.)

Setting the remote to also control the television should be
completely unrelated to this.

-- Richard

Keith[_7_] December 31st 10 10:04 AM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I've tried "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds, also with "2" and
"3" - no joy and I haven't found any reference to any other key
combinations
in the manual.


[...]

Perhaps I need a means of resetting the DVD remote.


That's what the combinations above are meant to do.

See page 119 of your manual: while pressing and holding [OK],
press and hold [3] for more than 5 seconds. (Perhaps you have
to press [OK] first.)


This is what I tried, page 119; "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds,
also with "2" and "3".
The only thing that happens is that the display on the DVD recorder changes
from "FS 102" (if set to channel 102) to "DVD 3". I've tried press and hold
"OK" + "1" etc as long as 12 seconds.
I can change the Freesat channel using the up/down buttons on the recorder
but recording/playback/EPG can only be done with the remote.

Keith

Setting the remote to also control the television should be
completely unrelated to this.

-- Richard




Richard Tobin December 31st 10 10:35 AM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
In article ,
Keith wrote:

This is what I tried, page 119; "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5 seconds,
also with "2" and "3".
The only thing that happens is that the display on the DVD recorder changes
from "FS 102" (if set to channel 102) to "DVD 3". I've tried press and hold
"OK" + "1" etc as long as 12 seconds.


I don't know why it doesn't work, but just to be clear: pressing OK and 3
is not supposed to do anytihng to the TV, it's supposed to reset the
remote control. After that, the remote control should work with the
TV.

-- Richard

Keith[_7_] December 31st 10 12:21 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

This is what I tried, page 119; "OK" and "1" simultaneously for 5
seconds,
also with "2" and "3".
The only thing that happens is that the display on the DVD recorder
changes
from "FS 102" (if set to channel 102) to "DVD 3". I've tried press and
hold
"OK" + "1" etc as long as 12 seconds.


I don't know why it doesn't work, but just to be clear: pressing OK and 3
is not supposed to do anytihng to the TV,


it doesn't

it's supposed to reset the remote control.


again, it doesn't

After that, the remote control should work with the TV.

-- Richard


I seem to be stuffed; resetting the DVD (press+hold channel up/down button
for 10 seconds) does activate Setup but doesn't reset the remote, so can't
select/change any setup items. Is there a "secret" pinhole somewhere to
force a reset (as in Psion 3A, TomTom etc)?

Keith



Richard Tobin December 31st 10 12:29 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I seem to be stuffed


I'd start looking for a remote to borrow... perhaps from the shop
where you bought it?

Oh, and try removing the batteries from the remote for a while, then
trying again.

-- Richard

Richard Tobin December 31st 10 12:35 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I've tried press and hold "OK" + "1" etc as long as 12 seconds.


A quick Google found someone who said it took as long as 20 seconds...
worth a try I suppose.

-- Richard


Keith[_7_] December 31st 10 02:01 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I seem to be stuffed


I'd start looking for a remote to borrow... perhaps from the shop
where you bought it?

Oh, and try removing the batteries from the remote for a while, then
trying again.

-- Richard


Already tried these...
Just returned from Panasonic shop - very helpful but only solution is to
return the recorder to store of purchase, John Lewis, 40 miles away!

Hopefully there's an "Engineers" remote of some jump switches to (re)set in
the recorder.

Keith




Bill Wright[_2_] December 31st 10 02:48 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
Keith wrote:

I seem to be stuffed; resetting the DVD (press+hold channel up/down button
for 10 seconds) does activate Setup but doesn't reset the remote, so can't
select/change any setup items. Is there a "secret" pinhole somewhere to
force a reset (as in Psion 3A, TomTom etc)?


I haven't been following this but have you tried taking the batteries
out and leaving it for a while?

Bill

Keith[_7_] December 31st 10 02:50 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)? UPDATE!!!
 

"Keith" wrote in message
...

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I seem to be stuffed


I'd start looking for a remote to borrow... perhaps from the shop
where you bought it?

Oh, and try removing the batteries from the remote for a while, then
trying again.

-- Richard


Already tried these...
Just returned from Panasonic shop - very helpful but only solution is to
return the recorder to store of purchase, John Lewis, 40 miles away!

Hopefully there's an "Engineers" remote of some jump switches to (re)set
in the recorder.

Keith


Decided to have a coffee before setting out, gave the recorder its last
chance before being returned - remote worked! Panic over.
Don't know what happened, except that I took the recorder remote with me, so
it wasn't near the tv for an hour or so (warnings in manual about "nearby
devices"). Probably not relevant but SWMBO is now a happy bunny.

Thanks for the help,

Keith



Adrian[_3_] December 31st 10 05:57 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
Keith wrote:
I have a Panasonic DMR-XS350EB - worked fine.
Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic TX-L32X20B,
theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine when I
tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3" and the
remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.
I've tried the "hard" DVD reset (pressing up-and-down channel buttons, on
DVD recorder, for 5 seconds) - display still shows "DVD 3" and DVD remote
still does not control the DVD recorder - which has started to record a
couple of programmes setup earlier this week.
Which key sequences do I require to get my DVD recorder remote to work
again?

TIA

Keith


Press the power button and 3 on the remote control together for a few
seconds then it should work. If you want to revert to DVD 1 then you can
now get in the 350's set-up and change it back. HTH

--
Adrian

Adrian[_3_] December 31st 10 06:11 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
Keith wrote:
"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I seem to be stuffed

I'd start looking for a remote to borrow... perhaps from the shop
where you bought it?

Oh, and try removing the batteries from the remote for a while, then
trying again.

-- Richard


Already tried these...
Just returned from Panasonic shop - very helpful but only solution is to
return the recorder to store of purchase, John Lewis, 40 miles away!

Hopefully there's an "Engineers" remote of some jump switches to (re)set in
the recorder.

Keith



It is definitely the remote, as Richard said, press 3 and OK together on
the remote for more than 5 seconds and it should then operate the
recorder, after that you can set the TV code for that it is TV power 01
for a Panasonic TV.

--
Adrian

the_constructor[_2_] January 2nd 11 08:40 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
Keith wrote:
I have a Panasonic DMR-XS350EB - worked fine.
Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic TX-L32X20B,
theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine when
I tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3" and the
remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.
I've tried the "hard" DVD reset (pressing up-and-down channel buttons, on
DVD recorder, for 5 seconds) - display still shows "DVD 3" and DVD remote
still does not control the DVD recorder - which has started to record a
couple of programmes setup earlier this week.
Which key sequences do I require to get my DVD recorder remote to work
again?

TIA

Keith

Press the power button and 3 on the remote control together for a few
seconds then it should work. If you want to revert to DVD 1 then you can
now get in the 350's set-up and change it back. HTH

--
Adrian


Has the OP used the HDMI cables from his DVD recorder to the TV... I did and
alsorts of funny things started to happen with my TV and DVD Recorder, both
made by Panasonic

If using HDMI cale, suggest you unplug it

Jim



Keith[_7_] January 3rd 11 05:41 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
Keith wrote:
"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith wrote:

I seem to be stuffed
I'd start looking for a remote to borrow... perhaps from the shop
where you bought it?

Oh, and try removing the batteries from the remote for a while, then
trying again.

-- Richard


Already tried these...
Just returned from Panasonic shop - very helpful but only solution is to
return the recorder to store of purchase, John Lewis, 40 miles away!

Hopefully there's an "Engineers" remote of some jump switches to (re)set
in the recorder.

Keith



It is definitely the remote, as Richard said, press 3 and OK together on
the remote for more than 5 seconds and it should then operate the
recorder, after that you can set the TV code for that it is TV power 01
for a Panasonic TV.

--
Adrian


I'd already tried that option (see earlier in this thread) along with other
numerics suggested, without success.
However, I gave the kit a 'last-chance' between returning from the Panasonic
shop and going to JLs - I'd taken (just) the remote with me - and it now
worked!



Adrian[_3_] January 3rd 11 06:08 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
the_constructor wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
Keith wrote:
I have a Panasonic DMR-XS350EB - worked fine.
Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic TX-L32X20B,
theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine when
I tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3" and the
remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work the TV
on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.
I've tried the "hard" DVD reset (pressing up-and-down channel buttons, on
DVD recorder, for 5 seconds) - display still shows "DVD 3" and DVD remote
still does not control the DVD recorder - which has started to record a
couple of programmes setup earlier this week.
Which key sequences do I require to get my DVD recorder remote to work
again?

TIA

Keith

Press the power button and 3 on the remote control together for a few
seconds then it should work. If you want to revert to DVD 1 then you can
now get in the 350's set-up and change it back. HTH

--
Adrian


Has the OP used the HDMI cables from his DVD recorder to the TV... I did and
alsorts of funny things started to happen with my TV and DVD Recorder, both
made by Panasonic

If using HDMI cale, suggest you unplug it

Jim


An HDMI cable is by far the best way to connect a Panasonic DMR-XS350 to
the TV as it records in HD to the hard disc. I use HDMI with no problems
at all.

--
Adrian

the_constructor[_2_] January 5th 11 09:06 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
the_constructor wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
Keith wrote:
I have a Panasonic DMR-XS350EB - worked fine.
Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic
TX-L32X20B, theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no
problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine
when I tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3"
and the remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work
the TV on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.
I've tried the "hard" DVD reset (pressing up-and-down channel buttons,
on DVD recorder, for 5 seconds) - display still shows "DVD 3" and DVD
remote still does not control the DVD recorder - which has started to
record a couple of programmes setup earlier this week.
Which key sequences do I require to get my DVD recorder remote to work
again?

TIA

Keith
Press the power button and 3 on the remote control together for a few
seconds then it should work. If you want to revert to DVD 1 then you can
now get in the 350's set-up and change it back. HTH

--
Adrian


Has the OP used the HDMI cables from his DVD recorder to the TV... I did
and alsorts of funny things started to happen with my TV and DVD
Recorder, both made by Panasonic

If using HDMI cale, suggest you unplug it

Jim

An HDMI cable is by far the best way to connect a Panasonic DMR-XS350 to
the TV as it records in HD to the hard disc. I use HDMI with no problems
at all.

--
Adrian


I had my Panasonic TV connected to my Panasonic DVD recorder and could nopt
work out why, everytime I switched the TV off to stanby with it's remote, it
switched the DVD Recorder off permanently.

Visited the shop where I got both items from and the salesman was mystified.
They sent the TV installer to see if he could work out what I was meaning.
He was baffled also when he tried it.

When I told him that the only thing I had done was put the HDMI cable on he
said that was the problem. Removed it and all is well again now.

Jim



Richard Tobin January 5th 11 11:28 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
In article ,
the_constructor wrote:
I had my Panasonic TV connected to my Panasonic DVD recorder and could nopt
work out why, everytime I switched the TV off to stanby with it's remote, it
switched the DVD Recorder off permanently.


On my Panasonic TV, this is controlled by "Standby Power Save" in
"Link Settings" in the "System" menu.

-- Richard

Keith[_7_] January 6th 11 03:27 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
Has the OP used the HDMI cables from his DVD recorder to the TV... I did
and alsorts of funny things started to happen with my TV and DVD
Recorder, both made by Panasonic

If using HDMI cale, suggest you unplug it

Jim

An HDMI cable is by far the best way to connect a Panasonic DMR-XS350 to
the TV as it records in HD to the hard disc. I use HDMI with no problems
at all.

--
Adrian


I had my Panasonic TV connected to my Panasonic DVD recorder and could
nopt work out why, everytime I switched the TV off to stanby with it's
remote, it switched the DVD Recorder off permanently.

Visited the shop where I got both items from and the salesman was
mystified. They sent the TV installer to see if he could work out what I
was meaning. He was baffled also when he tried it.

When I told him that the only thing I had done was put the HDMI cable on
he said that was the problem. Removed it and all is well again now.

Jim


Yep, funny things do seem to occur with the HDMI connector (up-market,
gold-plated version!), more options - Viera? link. Now getting DVB as
default when turning it all on - default was Freesat from the dish, so have
to select HDMI input from menu. Probably an option somewhere (TV and/or DVD
remote?) to default to Freesat input. Cabling DVD/TV done as per manual(s).
But I now get HD reception, noticeably sharper/clearer, so I'll need to be
bored before experimenting further.
Analogue/antenna reception here is poor, and digital (Freeview) non-existent
(so DVB tuning reporting "No stations" was expected).

Keith



the_constructor[_2_] January 6th 11 04:19 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Has the OP used the HDMI cables from his DVD recorder to the TV... I
did and alsorts of funny things started to happen with my TV and DVD
Recorder, both made by Panasonic

If using HDMI cale, suggest you unplug it

Jim
An HDMI cable is by far the best way to connect a Panasonic DMR-XS350 to
the TV as it records in HD to the hard disc. I use HDMI with no problems
at all.

--
Adrian


I had my Panasonic TV connected to my Panasonic DVD recorder and could
nopt work out why, everytime I switched the TV off to stanby with it's
remote, it switched the DVD Recorder off permanently.

Visited the shop where I got both items from and the salesman was
mystified. They sent the TV installer to see if he could work out what I
was meaning. He was baffled also when he tried it.

When I told him that the only thing I had done was put the HDMI cable on
he said that was the problem. Removed it and all is well again now.

Jim


Yep, funny things do seem to occur with the HDMI connector (up-market,
gold-plated version!), more options - Viera? link. Now getting DVB as
default when turning it all on - default was Freesat from the dish, so
have to select HDMI input from menu. Probably an option somewhere (TV
and/or DVD remote?) to default to Freesat input. Cabling DVD/TV done as
per manual(s). But I now get HD reception, noticeably sharper/clearer, so
I'll need to be bored before experimenting further.
Analogue/antenna reception here is poor, and digital (Freeview)
non-existent (so DVB tuning reporting "No stations" was expected).

Keith


How many Freesat channels do you get with Automatic listing, I get 163 and
over 450 when Manual listing carried out.



Adrian[_3_] January 6th 11 04:49 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 
the_constructor wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
the_constructor wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
Keith wrote:
I have a Panasonic DMR-XS350EB - worked fine.
Today the TV (ancient Protech) failed so I bought a Panasonic
TX-L32X20B, theory being Panasonic DVD Recorder/Panasonic TV combo, no
problems.
Reality: whilst setting up DVD remote to control TV (it worked fine
when I tuned it for the Protech) I have got the DVD displaying "DVD 3"
and the remote no longer controls the DVD recorder, but does, now, work
the TV on/off, vol, CH and AV buttons.
I've tried the "hard" DVD reset (pressing up-and-down channel buttons,
on DVD recorder, for 5 seconds) - display still shows "DVD 3" and DVD
remote still does not control the DVD recorder - which has started to
record a couple of programmes setup earlier this week.
Which key sequences do I require to get my DVD recorder remote to work
again?

TIA

Keith
Press the power button and 3 on the remote control together for a few
seconds then it should work. If you want to revert to DVD 1 then you can
now get in the 350's set-up and change it back. HTH

--
Adrian
Has the OP used the HDMI cables from his DVD recorder to the TV... I did
and alsorts of funny things started to happen with my TV and DVD
Recorder, both made by Panasonic

If using HDMI cale, suggest you unplug it

Jim

An HDMI cable is by far the best way to connect a Panasonic DMR-XS350 to
the TV as it records in HD to the hard disc. I use HDMI with no problems
at all.

--
Adrian


I had my Panasonic TV connected to my Panasonic DVD recorder and could nopt
work out why, everytime I switched the TV off to stanby with it's remote, it
switched the DVD Recorder off permanently.

Visited the shop where I got both items from and the salesman was mystified.
They sent the TV installer to see if he could work out what I was meaning.
He was baffled also when he tried it.

When I told him that the only thing I had done was put the HDMI cable on he
said that was the problem. Removed it and all is well again now.

Jim


If that's a problem then you can switch off viera-link in the TV's
menus. Unless you connect the component cables there's no other way to
watch HD recordings. Scart does not carry HD.

--
Adrian

Keith[_7_] January 7th 11 07:50 PM

Have I bricked my pvr (remote control)?
 

"the_constructor" wrote in message
...
How many Freesat channels do you get with Automatic listing, I get 163 and
over 450 when Manual listing carried out.


164 Auto. I only have Manual under DVB, I'll try setup (or initialise or
whatever) later.
I get 658 under Other satellites, many presumably subscription (I know Sky
is), so can't view all of them.

Keith




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