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Fredxx December 7th 10 12:17 AM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 

"Norman Wells" wrote in message
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But I suspect all you'd be doing then is complaining that it doesn't have
triple tuners.


As I've said a number of times, the ideal instrument would have twin tuners.
I've also not seen any HD or DVD recorder combined or otherwise with 3
tuners, not even ones in excess of £400.




Norman Wells[_6_] December 7th 10 10:40 AM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 
Fredxx wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...

But I suspect all you'd be doing then is complaining that it doesn't
have triple tuners.


As I've said a number of times, the ideal instrument would have twin
tuners.


Yes, but you haven't actually explained why.

I've also not seen any HD or DVD recorder combined or
otherwise with 3 tuners, not even ones in excess of £400.


Exactly, 3 are considered too many.

Same as 2 actually, which is why you can't find them either.


Roderick Stewart[_2_] December 7th 10 11:15 AM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 
In article , Fredxx wrote:
The only one I know of with twin tuners and a DVD drive is the Panasonic
DMR-XW380.


It looks good, but it costs more than two separate single-tuner PVRs, so
if
simultaneous recording of two programmes is important, the sensible thing
to
do would be to buy two separate single-tuner PVRs.

Rod.


That is a logic conclusion, but a combined HD and DVD recorder does mean you
can transfer from one to the other, which isn't possible with separates.


I was thinking of two HDD/DVD PVRs, which is exactly the arrangement I have.
The total cost of both of them would not buy one with two tuners.

I can easily save HDD content from either of them onto a DVD, but these days I
am finding less and less material that is worth the bother.

Rod.
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Daniel Cohen December 7th 10 04:30 PM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 
Fredxx wrote:

"Norman Wells" wrote in message
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But I suspect all you'd be doing then is complaining that it doesn't have
triple tuners.


As I've said a number of times, the ideal instrument would have twin tuners.
I've also not seen any HD or DVD recorder combined or otherwise with 3
tuners, not even ones in excess of £400.


You could build your own.

MythTV, I think, is the relevant thing to look for.
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Andy Burns[_7_] December 7th 10 04:37 PM

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Daniel Cohen wrote:

Fredxx wrote:

the ideal instrument would have twin tuners.
I've also not seen any HD or DVD recorder combined or otherwise with 3
tuners, not even ones in excess of £400.


MythTV, I think, is the relevant thing to look for.


I don't have any DVB-T2 or DVB-S tuners yet, so no HD recordings, but I
have 2 x DVB-T tuners and can record 4 concurrent programmes from one
mux with each.


stephen December 7th 10 10:44 PM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:22:04 -0000, "Norman Wells"
wrote:

Fredxx wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message
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Fredxx wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message
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Fredxx wrote:
A friend of mine has bought a Samsung DVD-SH893M/XEU which is most
disappointing. Apart from not recording when it all seems it
should, I have had it crash a few times where only responding to a
cold boot by turning off and back on again. It also doesn't have
two Freeview tuners, so you can't watch one prgram whilst watching
another through the machine. I have since seem reviews are rather
dire.

Maybe I 've misunderstood exactly want you want to do, but any
set-up comprising a TV with Freeview capability and a single tuner
HD/DVD should allow you (a) to watch one programme live on the TV
while recording another, or (b) to watch one programme from the HD
while recording another to it or to DVD.

Naturally this machine is going back.

Ideally she needs a twin tuner, DVD and HD recorder, but these
seem like hen's teeth, or cost their weight in gold.

A twin tuner HD/DVD will make 3 tuners in all, which are only of
use if you want to do something involving 3 different programmes
at the same time, or record two different ones while you're out.

I suspect a single tuner HD/DVD would be more than adequate.

Does anyone have some suggestions?

Most combined HD and DVD recorders seem to have the one tuner. It
would be desirable to record one program whilst watching another,
hence 2 tuners. The Samsung unit I mentioned above is one where you
can either record, or watch as it has the one tuner.

Then you 'watch' on the TV using its own internal Freeview tuner or
external STB, and 'record' using the tuner in the HD/DVD. What's the
problem?


Nothing, just in a high end unit I would expect twin tuners. If a
£70 Bush HD recorder from Argos can have twin tuners, I can't see why
combined HD and DVD units can't.


They can of course. They just cost more, and don't give much advantage to
the average user, so they're not produced in volume. If you're desperate
for one, all you have to do is pay up. Your choice.

But I suspect all you'd be doing then is complaining that it doesn't have
triple tuners.


as a complete distraction, the virginmedia V+ HD PVR comes with 3
tuners.

Since it runs off the VM excrypted cable, the set will not have a
useful useful built in tuner.

being able to handle TV output with real time freeze, record 1
programme with a few minutes overrun and also kick off another that
overlaps is the way the 3 tuners get used here.

I can see see why having 3 tuners is going to be just as useful with a
Freeview PVR - DVD or not.
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Roderick Stewart[_2_] December 8th 10 06:57 AM

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In article , Daniel Cohen wrote:
As I've said a number of times, the ideal instrument would have twin tuners.
I've also not seen any HD or DVD recorder combined or otherwise with 3
tuners, not even ones in excess of £400.


You could build your own.

MythTV, I think, is the relevant thing to look for.


MythTV is a piece of software. You'd still need two tuners.

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Daniel Cohen December 8th 10 01:32 PM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:

In article , Daniel Cohen
wrote:


You could build your own.

MythTV, I think, is the relevant thing to look for.


MythTV is a piece of software. You'd still need two tuners.

Rod.


Yes, certainly. But using the software, plenty of people have built a
system with two or more tuners. And mentioning MythTV felt the simplest
way (since I haven't done any such building myself) to give a pointer to
where to look further.

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Roderick Stewart[_2_] December 8th 10 07:41 PM

Combined Freeview HD and DVD recorder
 
In article , Daniel Cohen
wrote:
You could build your own.

MythTV, I think, is the relevant thing to look for.


MythTV is a piece of software. You'd still need two tuners.

Rod.


Yes, certainly. But using the software, plenty of people have built a
system with two or more tuners. And mentioning MythTV felt the simplest
way (since I haven't done any such building myself) to give a pointer to
where to look further.


I've found my own way to "build" my own "twin tuner PVR", though some
might call it two single tuner PVRs, combined, not by means of software,
but by means of a wooden shelf unit and a load of SCART cables and a
switch box. My carpentry skills aren't great, but my software skills are
even worse, so it seemed prudent to stick with what I know. The result is
simple, it works very well, and it cost less than it would have done to
buy Panasonic's ready made all-in-one-box effort.

My arrangement also has a certain amount of inherent redundancy, so that
in the event of catastrophic failure of one unit, I'd still have a
completely functional system albeit with reduced capacity in the form of
the other one, in that in the event of programme clashes I'd have to make
a decision about which programmes to miss, with the result that I'd watch
less television, which would probably be no bad thing.

Rod.

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Fed Up Lurker December 27th 10 01:51 AM

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