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J G Miller[_4_] December 3rd 10 01:43 AM

Order to get out the dictionaries!
 
On Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 at 23:56:50h +0000,
Jamie Robert Powell came to the conclusion:

The escaped mental patient wrote in message
...
3. Call someone a pikey, and then accuse the same person of using
racist language.


This implies "pikey" is a racist term


Only according to your false logic.

Pikey *is* a pejorative slang term.

The word "gypsy" *can* be used as a perjorative adjective.

Neither are racist insults.

According to Wikipedia --

Pikey is a pejorative slang term used mainly in the United Kingdom
to refer to Irish Travellers, *gypsies* or people of low social class.

Since William Wright is not an Irish Traveller, either Jamie Robert Powell
considers him to be a gypsy or a person of low social class.

If it is the latter, then Jamie Robert Powell demonstrates once again that
he is truly a snob.

j r powell[_7_] December 3rd 10 02:08 AM

Order to get out the dictionaries!
 
"J G Moron" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 at 23:56:50h +0000,
Jamie Robert Powell wrote:
This implies "pikey" is a racist term


Only according to your false logic.


Nope, not false logic.

Pikey *is* a pejorative slang term.

The word "gypsy" *can* be used as a perjorative adjective.

Neither are racist insults.

According to Wikipedia --

Pikey is a pejorative slang term used mainly in the United Kingdom
to refer to Irish Travellers, *gypsies* or people of low social class.

Since William Wright is not an Irish Traveller, either Jamie Robert Powell
considers him to be a gypsy or a person of low social class.

If it is the latter, then Jamie Robert Powell demonstrates once again that
he is truly a snob.


The word "gypsy" *can* refer to a race, as I have already demonstrated by
citing the definitions from three dictionaries. Since we live in an age
where racism is unacceptable, people avoid using potentially racist terms,
especially in a negative context.
Incidentally, certain people previously accused me of racism over my use of
the word "pikey" - how ironic.



j r powell[_7_] December 3rd 10 02:12 AM

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"Mungo Plowfool" wrote in message ...

Thanks for confirming dictionaries don't support your notion that gipsy is
a 'racist' word.


More denial from Plowfool - each time his cluelessness is exposed he tries
to make some smart arse comment to cover up.


But perhaps you'd ask your therapist snip


Your simple mind is wandering into the realms of fantasy as usual.
You are a fool. Your drivel has no basis in reality. Your opinions are
worthless and discussions with you are pointless.



Bill Wright[_2_] December 3rd 10 02:43 AM

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Max Demian wrote:

That just claims that 'Gypsy' is a race; not that uttering the word
automatically makes one a racist.

Yes, and it doesn't say a thing about stinking the place out by burning
off (carcinogenic) pvc insulation from (probably stolen) copper cable.

Bill

Dave Plowman (News) December 3rd 10 10:52 AM

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In article ,
j r powell wrote:
But perhaps you'd ask your therapist why - on a public place like
this - you appear to be so keen on minority rights, but so rude to
individuals? That will take up all of your next session.



Your simple mind is wandering into the realms of fantasy as usual.
You are a fool. Your drivel has no basis in reality. Your opinions are
worthless and discussions with you are pointless.


Seems you have the same approach to your therapist. You really need to
heed what he tells you. But it will be a long and difficult road to your
recovery.

--
*The statement above is false

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) December 3rd 10 11:01 AM

Order to get out the dictionaries!
 
In article ,
j r powell wrote:
Since we live in an age where racism is unacceptable, people avoid
using potentially racist terms, especially in a negative context.


Thanks for the lecture on how to behave in public. If you weren't such a
self centred little fart you'd realise the irony of it.

--
*A day without sunshine is like... night.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Ian Jackson[_2_] December 3rd 10 11:08 AM

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In message , Andy Champ
writes
On 02/12/2010 19:39, Bill Wright wrote:
There's a long entry in Fowler's MEU which has no suggestion that the
word is 'racist' (whatever that means).

Bill


It's in the mind of the listener and the speaker.

I can quote Star Trek:

"Ah,a Beautiful Negress" [Lincoln]
"Why Thank You Sir" [Uhuru]

No insult intended; none taken. Yet in other circumstances to refer to
someone as a negress could be taken to be insulting. And then there's
the group "Niggaz With Attitude". They are hardly insulting themselves.

If I recall correctly, the momentary, unspoken response of crew was
bemused, slight disapproval.

But what message was being conveyed? Was it that, in modern times, such
terms should be avoided? Or, more likely, was it that it was silly to
object to certain words which, in their own right, are not intended to
convey any offence whatsoever?
--
Ian

j r powell[_7_] December 3rd 10 06:22 PM

Order to get out the dictionaries!
 
"Mungo Plowfool" wrote in message ...


Thanks for the lecture on how to behave in public. If you weren't such a
self centred little fart you'd realise the irony of it.


Diddums.... I upset Plowfool.
Dave, perhaps if you dispensed with your rudeness, your insults, your
delusions of competence, your compulsively argumentative traits, your
tendency to hold unjustified grudges for months on end, your refusal to
admit that you are wrong even when staring in the face of scientific proof,
your subsequent tactic of snipping said proof and then attempting to make
some smart arse comment to cover up, along with your generally cynical,
superior attitude, you might find yourself being treated with a bit more
politeness and respect.



UnsteadyKen[_2_] December 3rd 10 06:41 PM

Order to get out the dictionaries!
 
j r powell said...

your
tendency to hold unjustified grudges for months on end,


Come now Jamie, this is clearly a PKB. As the official group referee I
am deducting 5 usenet bickering points from your tally.

--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

Bill Wright[_2_] December 3rd 10 07:13 PM

Order to get out the dictionaries!
 
j r powell wrote:
"Mungo Plowfool" wrote in message ...


Thanks for the lecture on how to behave in public. If you weren't such a
self centred little fart you'd realise the irony of it.


Diddums.... I upset Plowfool.
Dave, perhaps if you dispensed with your rudeness, your insults, your
delusions of competence, your compulsively argumentative traits, your
tendency to hold unjustified grudges for months on end, your refusal to
admit that you are wrong even when staring in the face of scientific
proof, your subsequent tactic of snipping said proof and then attempting
to make some smart arse comment to cover up, along with your generally
cynical, superior attitude, you might find yourself being treated with a
bit more politeness and respect.


In order to prevent confusion, I'd like to point out that the above
post, which appears to be from Jamie, was really by Jamie, but he was
only pretending to be himself. Taking the art of impersonation to new
heights, he has posted as himself.

Bill


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