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TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

I am trying to get to grips with my new computer and Live Mail, so cheekily
I have sent this link to see if it works.
I hope the linked video will ring some bells with the clear thinkers who
are regular contributors here.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=...l#grid/uploads

Richard H

TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

Brian Gaff wrote:

A clue for those who don't click links in case of problems or the blind...

It's a bloke ranting about muslims, could almost be replaced by an audio
file rather than being a video on youtube.

TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

Andy Burns wrote:

Brian Gaff wrote:

A clue for those who don't click links in case of problems or the blind...

It's a bloke ranting about muslims, could almost be replaced by an audio
file rather than being a video on youtube.

As an atheist with disdain for religious extremism myself, I can
understand the attraction of Pat Condell's rants, but he does put
considerable strain on the truth.

His attack on the supposed "Ground Zero Mosque" was particularly
invidious, containing several outright lies. It was viewed be nearly 6
million people, and is suspected by some to be the main impetus for the
Ground Zero anti-muslim protests in the US. I won't link to that, but I
will link to Charlie Brooker's explanation of the reality:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nd-zero-mosque

TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

On Nov 30, 10:16*am, Dave Farrance
wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:

A clue for those who don't click links in case of problems or the blind...

It's a bloke ranting about muslims, could almost be replaced by an audio
file rather than being a video on youtube.

As an atheist with disdain for religious extremism myself, I can
understand the attraction of Pat Condell's rants, but he does put
considerable strain on the truth.

His attack on the supposed "Ground Zero Mosque" was particularly
invidious, containing several outright lies. *It was viewed be nearly 6
million people, and is suspected by some to be the main impetus for the
Ground Zero anti-muslim protests in the US. *I won't link to that, but I
will link to *Charlie Brooker's explanation of the reality:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...rlie-brooker-g...

I am also atheist but I have a disdain for religion generally, not
just extremism. Generally I find Pat Condell relevant and amusing and
see little evidence of lying, some slight hyperbole maybe.

For some robust and skilful demolition of religion I would recommend
the recent debate between the atheist polemicist Christopher hitchens,
and newly recruited Catholic Tony Blair.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ebate-religion

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+vs+blair&aq=f

TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

Dave Farrance wrote:

His attack on the supposed "Ground Zero Mosque" was particularly
invidious, containing several outright lies. It was viewed be nearly 6
million people, and is suspected by some to be the main impetus for the
Ground Zero anti-muslim protests in the US. I won't link to that, but I
will link to Charlie Brooker's explanation of the reality:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nd-zero-mosque

Well I have no intention of listening to Charlie Brooker. He's very one
sided.

Bill

TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:12:32 -0800 (PST), MartinR
wrote:

On Nov 30, 10:16*am, Dave Farrance
wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:

A clue for those who don't click links in case of problems or the blind...

It's a bloke ranting about muslims, could almost be replaced by an audio
file rather than being a video on youtube.

As an atheist with disdain for religious extremism myself, I can
understand the attraction of Pat Condell's rants, but he does put
considerable strain on the truth.

His attack on the supposed "Ground Zero Mosque" was particularly
invidious, containing several outright lies. *It was viewed be nearly 6
million people, and is suspected by some to be the main impetus for the
Ground Zero anti-muslim protests in the US. *I won't link to that, but I
will link to *Charlie Brooker's explanation of the reality:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...rlie-brooker-g...

I am also atheist but I have a disdain for religion generally, not
just extremism.

+1

Generally I find Pat Condell relevant and amusing and
see little evidence of lying, some slight hyperbole maybe.

But hyperbole usually /is/ lying.

And I found his comment about bestiality, at best, misleading and
irrelevent.
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TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

MartinR wrote:

On Nov 30, 10:16*am, Dave Farrance wrote:

His attack on the supposed "Ground Zero Mosque" was particularly
invidious, containing several outright lies. *It was viewed be nearly 6
million people, and is suspected by some to be the main impetus for the
Ground Zero anti-muslim protests in the US. *I won't link to that, but I
will link to *Charlie Brooker's explanation of the reality:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nd-zero-mosque

I am also atheist but I have a disdain for religion generally, not
just extremism. Generally I find Pat Condell relevant and amusing and
see little evidence of lying, some slight hyperbole maybe.

Given that the Ground Zero Mosque thing was a complete phantom, as the
Guardian article that I referred to shows, it's arguable that Condell's
whole talk on it was one big lie. I've no intention of listening to it
again, but at the time, when I heard his assertion that the Imam behind
the "9/11 Mosque" was a supporter of terrorism and said that 9/11 was the
fault of America, I checked up on Feisal Abdul Rauf and found Condell's
assertions to be a calumny and outright lies. Although I had found
Condell to be entertaining, at that point my opinion of him dropped
through the floor. He is not a reasonable person.

For some robust and skilful demolition of religion I would recommend
the recent debate between the atheist polemicist Christopher hitchens,
and newly recruited Catholic Tony Blair.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...ebate-religion

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+vs+blair&aq=f

Yes, I'd seen that. I do find Hitchens, and even Dawkins to be a touch
strident and probably edging into counterproductivity. My favourite
advocacy of atheism was Jonathan Miller's series "A Brief History of
Disbelief" that was shown on BBC Four -- that, in my opinion was the way
it should be done, but that series gets little attention, presumably
because Miller wasn't particularly rude about it. Ho hum.

TOT Pat Condell's latest blast of common sense

Bill Wright wrote:

Dave Farrance wrote:

His attack on the supposed "Ground Zero Mosque" was particularly
invidious, containing several outright lies. It was viewed be nearly 6
million people, and is suspected by some to be the main impetus for the
Ground Zero anti-muslim protests in the US. I won't link to that, but I
will link to Charlie Brooker's explanation of the reality:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nd-zero-mosque

Well I have no intention of listening to Charlie Brooker. He's very one
sided.

It's a Guardian article, not a video. It's spot-on as far as I can tell.
I'd only seen Brooker's TV series "Screenwipe" and "Newswipe", and had
judged him from those. I hadn't noticed a strong bias in *his* commentary
in those programs, although Newswipe did contain a section in which some
crap poet read some left-biased BS. I understand that Brooker has radio
shows as well, so maybe it's those you're judging him from.