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Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
Just been round to me mams she has a Sky HD box the below channels breakup;
188 True Ent 321 True Movies 1 322 True Movies 2 365 Chart Show TV 366 The Vault 367 Flava 372 Bliss 374 Scuzz 376 DanceNationTV 382 NME TV 616 POP 617 Tiny POP 625 Tiny POP +1 626 POPGirl 627 Kix! 629 POPGirl +1 Signal is at 100% Quality at 80% on all the above channels, because there are so few is it dish alignment or something else. |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
Just been round to me mams she has a Sky HD box the below channels breakup; 188 True Ent 321 True Movies 1 322 True Movies 2 365 Chart Show TV 366 The Vault 367 Flava 372 Bliss 374 Scuzz 376 DanceNationTV 382 NME TV 616 POP 617 Tiny POP 625 Tiny POP +1 626 POPGirl 627 Kix! 629 POPGirl +1 Signal is at 100% Quality at 80% on all the above channels, because there are so few is it dish alignment or something else. Someone else who has to do with Sky boxes than me might correct me here, but I was under the impression that the quality and strength reading does not relate specifically to the channel the box had been on before the menu button had been pressed. It is quite normal for Sky boxes to display impressive quality and strength readings, yet have missing channels. All the channels you list except one are on the same transponder, which suggests any or all of the following, assuming you have given a full list: Faulty receiver (unlikely because if it was that you'd be reporting channels on the same satellite IF but other muxes) Terrestrial microwave interference (unlikely because if it was that you'd probably be reporting channels on the same satellite IF but other muxes) Faulty LNB. I had a problem job a few weeks ago which turned out to be the LNB's noise peaking on a particular frequency, and this was on one of the four modes only. Bill |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...
Someone else who has to do with Sky boxes than me might correct me here, but I was under the impression that the quality and strength reading does not relate specifically to the channel the box had been on before the menu button had been pressed. Not the case with Sky+HD boxes. One of the two sets of strength/quality meters will show measurements for the currently-selected channel's transponder. Funny how none of Bill's fictional customers seem to have Sky TV, innit (prior to him reading this of course). jamie. -- |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its opinion on
these channels.. grin Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message ... Just been round to me mams she has a Sky HD box the below channels breakup; 188 True Ent 321 True Movies 1 322 True Movies 2 365 Chart Show TV 366 The Vault 367 Flava 372 Bliss 374 Scuzz 376 DanceNationTV 382 NME TV 616 POP 617 Tiny POP 625 Tiny POP +1 626 POPGirl 627 Kix! 629 POPGirl +1 Signal is at 100% Quality at 80% on all the above channels, because there are so few is it dish alignment or something else. |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
... Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its opinion on these channels.. grin Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about it for the last 2-3 years. |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its opinion on these channels.. grin Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about it for the last 2-3 years. Going back to your own flat Nick, this whole issue of you paying for a connection astonished most of us on here. However, I have now (this morning) heard of a similar situation elsewhere. An installer friend told me the following: He had been asked by a resident on a private block of flats to fit a second downlead. There was a grey wallbox near the communal dish, and the understanding the resident had was that since they had all clubbed together for the dish and the box and its contents they could connect to it as they wished. He had contacted the installer, who had given every resident a leaflet with contact details etc, to be told that the price for a second feed was £340 + VAT. He then rung a different installer, the one who was later to ring me. He went round yesterday and had a look, having given a rough figure of £130 + VAT, and found that the box was locked. He rung the phone number on the resident's leaflet to be told that no-one was allowed to connect to the box but them, and if he did so they would sue him. And that's where it stands at the moment. The resident will be talking to the RA over the weekend to establish for certain the terms of the dish and wallbox installation. If it turns out that the RA has entered into an agreement whereby the installer 'owns' the spare outputs (if indeed there are any in the box) I guess they've been had. I think it's more likely though that the original installer's response was a bluff. We shall see. Bill |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus Nick Le Lievre wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its opinion on these channels.. grin Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about it for the last 2-3 years. Going back to your own flat Nick, this whole issue of you paying for a connection astonished most of us on here. However, I have now (this morning) heard of a similar situation elsewhere. An installer friend told me the following: He had been asked by a resident on a private block of flats to fit a second downlead. There was a grey wallbox near the communal dish, and the understanding the resident had was that since they had all clubbed together for the dish and the box and its contents they could connect to it as they wished. He had contacted the installer, who had given every resident a leaflet with contact details etc, to be told that the price for a second feed was £340 + VAT. He then rung a different installer, the one who was later to ring me. He went round yesterday and had a look, having given a rough figure of £130 + VAT, and found that the box was locked. He rung the phone number on the resident's leaflet to be told that no-one was allowed to connect to the box but them, and if he did so they would sue him. And that's where it stands at the moment. The resident will be talking to the RA over the weekend to establish for certain the terms of the dish and wallbox installation. If it turns out that the RA has entered into an agreement whereby the installer 'owns' the spare outputs (if indeed there are any in the box) I guess they've been had. I think it's more likely though that the original installer's response was a bluff. We shall see. Bill Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car for "access problem" situations like those;)... -- Tony Sayer |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:25:00 +0000, tony sayer
wrote: In article , Bill Wright scribeth thus Nick Le Lievre wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Non serious reply.. I think the atmosphere is finally giving its opinion on these channels.. grin Yeah they are ****e that`s why we have not bothered to do anything about it for the last 2-3 years. Going back to your own flat Nick, this whole issue of you paying for a connection astonished most of us on here. However, I have now (this morning) heard of a similar situation elsewhere. An installer friend told me the following: He had been asked by a resident on a private block of flats to fit a second downlead. There was a grey wallbox near the communal dish, and the understanding the resident had was that since they had all clubbed together for the dish and the box and its contents they could connect to it as they wished. He had contacted the installer, who had given every resident a leaflet with contact details etc, to be told that the price for a second feed was £340 + VAT. He then rung a different installer, the one who was later to ring me. He went round yesterday and had a look, having given a rough figure of £130 + VAT, and found that the box was locked. He rung the phone number on the resident's leaflet to be told that no-one was allowed to connect to the box but them, and if he did so they would sue him. And that's where it stands at the moment. The resident will be talking to the RA over the weekend to establish for certain the terms of the dish and wallbox installation. If it turns out that the RA has entered into an agreement whereby the installer 'owns' the spare outputs (if indeed there are any in the box) I guess they've been had. I think it's more likely though that the original installer's response was a bluff. We shall see. Bill Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car for "access problem" situations like those;)... Now what's that legal phrase? "Going equipped for crime" I think. ;-) -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
tony sayer wrote:
Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car for "access problem" situations like those;)... Helps when you get wheel clamped too. -- Adrian |
Another Dish Alignment Issue or something else
In message , tony sayer
writes Thats why I keep a pair of bolt croppers and an angle grinder in the car for "access problem" situations like those;)... I have a set of hydraulic ones I carry, not been stumped yet! -- Bill ( A different one ) |
DECT interference
Bill Wright wrote:
Nick Le Lievre wrote: Just been round to me mams she has a Sky HD box the below channels breakup; 188 True Ent 321 True Movies 1 322 True Movies 2 365 Chart Show TV 366 The Vault 367 Flava 372 Bliss 374 Scuzz 376 DanceNationTV 382 NME TV 616 POP 617 Tiny POP 625 Tiny POP +1 626 POPGirl 627 Kix! 629 POPGirl +1 Signal is at 100% Quality at 80% on all the above channels, because there are so few is it dish alignment or something else. Someone else who has to do with Sky boxes than me might correct me here, but I was under the impression that the quality and strength reading does not relate specifically to the channel the box had been on before the menu button had been pressed. It is quite normal for Sky boxes to display impressive quality and strength readings, yet have missing channels. All the channels you list except one are on the same transponder, which suggests any or all of the following, assuming you have given a full list: Faulty receiver (unlikely because if it was that you'd be reporting channels on the same satellite IF but other muxes) Terrestrial microwave interference (unlikely because if it was that you'd probably be reporting channels on the same satellite IF but other muxes) Faulty LNB. I had a problem job a few weeks ago which turned out to be the LNB's noise peaking on a particular frequency, and this was on one of the four modes only. Another known cause of specific transponder interference is a DECT base station installed too close to the cable or receiver. In fact, that transponder frequency (11642 MHz) downconverts to 1892 MHz on the cable from the LNB to receiver - right in the middle of the DECT band. http://www.techwatch.co.uk/forums/72...reception.html Move the DECT phone base and the problem should be solved. |
DECT interference
Jim wrote:
Another known cause of specific transponder interference is a DECT base station installed too close to the cable or receiver. In fact, that transponder frequency (11642 MHz) downconverts to 1892 MHz on the cable from the LNB to receiver - right in the middle of the DECT band. http://www.techwatch.co.uk/forums/72...reception.html Move the DECT phone base and the problem should be solved. Oh I must be going mad! I had a problem with this only a few weeks ago and yet I forgot all about it when answering this OP. The job a few weeks ago had the phone right at the other side of the room to the sat box. Bill |
DECT interference
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:19:44 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote: Jim wrote: Another known cause of specific transponder interference is a DECT base station installed too close to the cable or receiver. In fact, that transponder frequency (11642 MHz) downconverts to 1892 MHz on the cable from the LNB to receiver - right in the middle of the DECT band. http://www.techwatch.co.uk/forums/72...reception.html Move the DECT phone base and the problem should be solved. Oh I must be going mad! I had a problem with this only a few weeks ago and yet I forgot all about it when answering this OP. The job a few weeks ago had the phone right at the other side of the room to the sat box. Bill I have a new Panasonic phone which has the base station as part of a corded phone and DECT cordeless extensions. One of these sits right next to a PURE DAB radio. My wife has just commented that when the phone rings, the DAB radio mutes. The sound comes back on as soon as the phone is answered. I think that she thought this was some sort of clever design feature! |
DECT interference
ChrisW wrote:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:19:44 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: Jim wrote: Another known cause of specific transponder interference is a DECT base station installed too close to the cable or receiver. In fact, that transponder frequency (11642 MHz) downconverts to 1892 MHz on the cable from the LNB to receiver - right in the middle of the DECT band. http://www.techwatch.co.uk/forums/72...reception.html Move the DECT phone base and the problem should be solved. Oh I must be going mad! I had a problem with this only a few weeks ago and yet I forgot all about it when answering this OP. The job a few weeks ago had the phone right at the other side of the room to the sat box. Bill I have a new Panasonic phone which has the base station as part of a corded phone and DECT cordeless extensions. One of these sits right next to a PURE DAB radio. My wife has just commented that when the phone rings, the DAB radio mutes. The sound comes back on as soon as the phone is answered. I think that she thought this was some sort of clever design feature! It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Bill |
DECT interference
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:
It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... -- Geo |
DECT interference
Geo wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear... Bill |
It is DECT interference
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... Geo wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear.. I just want to say thanks for the heads up about DECT phones. My mother has a cordless phone on top of the TV stand in close proximity to the Satellite receiver and today I finally got round to testing whether this was causing the breakup on the channels listed. Essentially it was, I unplugged it and the picture was clear, plugged it back in and it began breaking up. We are going to leave the phone there as we do not watch the few channels which it affects but it seems to affect all types of Satellite receiver as I remember having the problem with a normal Sky box, a Freesat HD box and the current Samsung Sky + HD Box. Once again thanks, saved a call out to the Satellite engineers responsible for the maintenance of the system and have finally got to the bottom of the problem. I had never heard of DECT interference before and did not even know my mothers phone was a DECT phone. |
It is DECT interference
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It is DECT interference
tony sayer wrote:
In article , Nick Le Lievre nicklelievr lid scribeth thus "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Geo wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear.. I just want to say thanks for the heads up about DECT phones. My mother has a cordless phone on top of the TV stand in close proximity to the Satellite receiver and today I finally got round to testing whether this was causing the breakup on the channels listed. Essentially it was, I unplugged it and the picture was clear, plugged it back in and it began breaking up. So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. Bill |
It is DECT interference
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. To confirm, yes the phone/base station was not actually in use just plugged in and switched on. Switched off at the mains the picture immediately cleared up. |
It is DECT interference
In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus tony sayer wrote: In article , Nick Le Lievre nicklelievr lid scribeth thus "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Geo wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear.. I just want to say thanks for the heads up about DECT phones. My mother has a cordless phone on top of the TV stand in close proximity to the Satellite receiver and today I finally got round to testing whether this was causing the breakup on the channels listed. Essentially it was, I unplugged it and the picture was clear, plugged it back in and it began breaking up. So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. Bill All of the time?. Whatever for?.. -- Tony Sayer |
It is DECT interference
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It is DECT interference
Well to keep hold of the frequency maybe? I know some are expandable so
maybe this has something to do with it. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , Bill Wright scribeth thus tony sayer wrote: In article , Nick Le Lievre nicklelievr lid scribeth thus "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Geo wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear.. I just want to say thanks for the heads up about DECT phones. My mother has a cordless phone on top of the TV stand in close proximity to the Satellite receiver and today I finally got round to testing whether this was causing the breakup on the channels listed. Essentially it was, I unplugged it and the picture was clear, plugged it back in and it began breaking up. So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. Bill All of the time?. Whatever for?.. -- Tony Sayer |
It is DECT interference
tony sayer wrote:
In article , Bill Wright scribeth thus tony sayer wrote: In article , Nick Le Lievre nicklelievr lid scribeth thus "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Geo wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear.. I just want to say thanks for the heads up about DECT phones. My mother has a cordless phone on top of the TV stand in close proximity to the Satellite receiver and today I finally got round to testing whether this was causing the breakup on the channels listed. Essentially it was, I unplugged it and the picture was clear, plugged it back in and it began breaking up. So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. Bill All of the time?. Whatever for?.. I don't know. I must find out. Bill |
It is DECT interference
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:33:47 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote: tony sayer wrote: In article , Bill Wright scribeth thus tony sayer wrote: In article , Nick Le Lievre nicklelievr lid scribeth thus "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Geo wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:24:23 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: It's funny how some things bother you isn't it? I was really mad with myself for forgetting about DECT phones. Never mind - you'll forget about it soon... Oh dear.. I just want to say thanks for the heads up about DECT phones. My mother has a cordless phone on top of the TV stand in close proximity to the Satellite receiver and today I finally got round to testing whether this was causing the breakup on the channels listed. Essentially it was, I unplugged it and the picture was clear, plugged it back in and it began breaking up. So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. Bill All of the time?. Whatever for?.. I don't know. I must find out. I've just experimented with my DECT base station and cordless handset. The handset is registered with the base as HS1 and displays how many messages are stored in the base's answering machine. I powered off the base station. The handset detected this within 2 seconds and started bleeping. The handset then "immediately" detected when I powered on the base again. It seems likely that there is frequent handshaking between the base and the handsets registered with it. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
It is DECT interference
Peter Duncanson wrote:
It seems likely that there is frequent handshaking between the base and the handsets registered with it. Ah! Bill |
It is DECT interference
On 29/11/2010 11:20, tony sayer wrote:
In , Nick Le Lievrenicklelievr lid scribeth thus "Bill wrote in message ... So this wasn't actually in use making a call then?.. My understanding is that some DECT bases transmit all the time. To confirm, yes the phone/base station was not actually in use just plugged in and switched on. Switched off at the mains the picture immediately cleared up Must be something very naff with that!.. Nevermind we have now moved the base station into the kitchen and the picture is fine now, not that we really needed a clear picture on those particular channels but its fixed all the same. |
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