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Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now
showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill Does it have DOG **** on it? |
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"Light of Aria" wrote in message ... "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill Does it have DOG **** on it? Yes says BBC1 HD But it is not same programme as BBC1 SD It is an animated program and Landgirls is on SD. Regards David |
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"David" wrote in message ... "Light of Aria" wrote in message Does it have DOG **** on it? Yes says BBC1 HD But it is not same programme as BBC1 SD It is an animated program and Landgirls is on SD. I have a Panasonic Freesat and using "other programs" to view it, is there more than one version of BBC1 HD, if yes please quote me tuning details. ( Seems to be two of BBC HD.) I suppose the big step will be to start transmit Freesat 109 and have 108 as well with BBC HD until next week and during the ONE Show it will change on 108 to BBC1 HD. Regards David |
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David wrote:
But it is not same programme as BBC1 SD It was, earlier. Now (15.12) it's just a card. Bill |
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Light of Aria wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill Does it have DOG **** on it? Yes. It's bright orange except for the word 'one' which is rapidly going through a rainbow sequence. It occupies the whole of the top right hand quadrant. I suppose it could be quite annoying. Bill |
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On 28 Oct, 15:15, Bill Wright wrote:
Light of Aria wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill Does it have DOG **** on it? Yes. It's bright orange except for the word 'one' which is rapidly going through a rainbow sequence. It occupies the whole of the top right hand quadrant. I suppose it could be quite annoying. LOL!!!!!!!! You'd have got him too, but the BBC never put DOGs top-right. Cheers, David. |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? |
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"Scott" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite in my reply. Regards David |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, "David"
wrote: "Scott" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite in my reply. Regards David I assumed terrestrial but it could be either. OP could have been clearer in his posting. That said, I would expect if they are testing satellite they would also be testing terrestrial since terrestrial is launching next Wednesday. |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:24:30 +0100, Scott
wrote: That said, I would expect if they are testing satellite they would also be testing terrestrial since terrestrial is launching next Wednesday. So is the launch on Freesat. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather |
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Scott wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, "David" wrote: "Scott" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite in my reply. Regards David I assumed terrestrial but it could be either. OP could have been clearer in his posting. Oh leave me alone! I've got man flu! I can't think of everything! Anyway it was satellite. Bill |
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"Scott" wrote in message ... I assumed terrestrial but it could be either. OP could have been clearer in his posting. It's on satellite, 28.2E, but not on the Sky EPG yet. Details a 10.847 GHz, SR 22.0, FEC 5/6 SID is 6941. This DVB-S1 transponder is currently carrying two versions of BBC HD along with the BBC1 HD feed, so bitrates must be low. On a vaguely-related note, Sky HD users currently cannot manually add channels from DVB-S2 transponders, as I found out to my annoyance recently when I tried connecting my box to a dish pointing at 19.2E. I could only view one HD feed from 19.2 as a result (Einsfestival HD Promo), but this did allow me to watch a 720p transmission on our TV set for the first time. jamie. -- |
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"j r powell" wrote in message ... "Scott" wrote in message ... I assumed terrestrial but it could be either. OP could have been clearer in his posting. It's on satellite, 28.2E, but not on the Sky EPG yet. Details a 10.847 GHz, SR 22.0, FEC 5/6 SID is 6941. Forgot to add... vertical polarisation. jamie. -- |
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At 02:09:10 Fri, 29 Oct 2010, j r powell wrote:
It's on satellite, 28.2E, but not on the Sky EPG yet. Details a 10.847 GHz, SR 22.0, FEC 5/6 SID is 6941. This DVB-S1 transponder is currently carrying two versions of BBC HD along with the BBC1 HD feed, so bitrates must be low. Um, not exactly. BBC HD and the other version (6945) have the same audio and video PIDs in the transport stream. |
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I thought you knew that HD stood for hideously delayed.
Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill |
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On 29 Oct, 07:26, John Legon wrote:
At 02:09:10 Fri, 29 Oct 2010, j r powell wrote: It's on satellite, 28.2E, but not on the Sky EPG yet. Details a 10.847 GHz, SR 22.0, FEC 5/6 SID is 6941. This DVB-S1 transponder is currently carrying two versions of BBC HD along with the BBC1 HD feed, so bitrates must be low. Um, not exactly. *BBC HD and the other version (6945) have the same audio and video PIDs in the transport stream. That's you in Jamie's kill file for pointing out another one of his silly mistakes! ;-) Cheers, David. |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:41:36 +0100, "Light of Aria"
wrote: "Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Bill Does it have DOG **** on it? Yes it will. https://twitter.com/naglerhd/status/28970393415 She seems proud of it. I'll stick to the SD version, whilst the HD version has moron message grafity'd on it. |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
I thought you knew that HD stood for hideously delayed. Brian No it's horologically defective. Bill |
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Mike Henry wrote:
Also: "Ongoing discussion on right size for #bbc one hd DOG. Remains to be seen whether principle or pragmatism win out" (https://twitter.com/naglerhd) WTF does she mean by that? Which one out of "principle or pragmatism" means "NO DOG AT ALL"? It's almost phrased as if to say "in principle I want a 1/4 screen size solid animated DOG but we might have to be pragmatic and break them in gently with an 1/8 screen size transparent DOG". Why wasn't it "Ongoing discussion on #bbc one hd DOG or no DOG. Remains to be seen whether marketing or licence-fee-paying viewers win out"... She's a medja marketing person, they're jumpered up completely differently to us normal human beings. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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Does it have DOG **** on it?
Yes it will. Oh, for ****'s sake! What is wrong with those stupid people at the BBC? SteveT |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, "David"
wrote: "Scott" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite in my reply. Regards David Any idea when the new channel will appear on the Freeview EPG? I believe it is due to launch on Wednesday. |
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In message , Scott
writes On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, "David" wrote: "Scott" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite in my reply. Regards David Any idea when the new channel will appear on the Freeview EPG? I believe it is due to launch on Wednesday. No, but it has appeared in the Non-Freesat epg, on 5435, showing info about launch, Nov 3rd, and channels for BBC HD, " Freesat 109, Freeview 54, Sky 169 and Virgin Media 187". This may suggest that BBC 1 HD will be on Freesat 108 and Freeview channel 50. -- Ian |
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On 29 Oct, 19:09, Mark Carver wrote:
Mike Henry wrote: Also: "Ongoing discussion on right size for #bbc one hd DOG. Remains to be seen whether principle or pragmatism win out" (https://twitter.com/naglerhd) WTF does she mean by that? Which one out of "principle or pragmatism" means "NO DOG AT ALL"? It's almost phrased as if to say "in principle I want a 1/4 screen size solid animated DOG but we might have to be pragmatic and break them in gently with an 1/8 screen size transparent DOG". Why wasn't it "Ongoing discussion on #bbc one hd DOG or no DOG. Remains to be seen whether marketing or licence-fee-paying viewers win out"... She's a medja marketing person, they're jumpered up completely differently to us normal human beings. It's spread far further than that. I've had someone from BBC R&D talk to me very seriously about why DOGs are essential. You've got to admit: he'll probably get on very well being able to toe the party line and talk complete BS like that. To be fair, the argument wasn't BS. It went like this: BBC funding is always under threat. Lots of viewers claim to "never watch the BBC", which undermines the license fee. Whereas the truth is that most of these viewers do watch the BBC, but they forget they watch it, or don't know they're watching the BBC when they are. So if we put our logo on all the channels, they can't forget, and will realise what good value for money they're getting. My answer was we should go back to the 1930s, where such stupid people knew to keep their mouths shut, no one was interested in their opinions, and no one would take any notice of what they said. Rather than the 21st century attitude of running things to cater for the lowest common denominator, and ignoring the demands of anything better/ higher. I didn't put it quite like that, but his response was basically that if the BBC did that, then many people would go and watch ITV and/or Sky, and there'd be no publicly funded BBC left. A kind of "we have to half wreck it ourselves to stop someone else coming along and annihilating it completely" argument. Cheers, David. |
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Virgin Media has a place-holder page on ch187 on cable.
Guy On 31/10/2010 13:47, Scott wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:40 +0100, wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:47:18 +0100, Bill wrote: Has been showing the "Sorry no regional programmes" card and is now showing the same prog as BBC1 SD with a 5 sec lag. Not appeared on Blackhill as yet. Are they testing on selected transmitters only? Oh it is terrestrial is it that the OP was on about, I had assumed Satellite in my reply. Regards David Any idea when the new channel will appear on the Freeview EPG? I believe it is due to launch on Wednesday. |
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"Bigguy2010" wrote in message ... Virgin Media has a place-holder page on ch187 on cable. Nothing on my Freesat on 109, is Freesat the only platform without any tests/promotions? Will Freesat sets need a reset or rescan? (Or is it just Freesat being behind again.) Regards David PS the caption my Freesat set on Other Channels does say on Freesat 109. |
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Just had a look at the Freesat web site. "Important news for freesat customers You can expect to see BBC One HD added to the EPG at Channel 108 from 7pm onwards on Wednesday 3rd November. BBC HD channel will move to Channel 109. These changes will update automatically on freesat boxes and TVs. To prompt these changes after 7pm, put your box or TV into standby for one minute, and then turn it back on. The EPG will then update. Customers with Humax boxes and LG TVs will need to accept the new channel prompt." (Now not my spelling mistakes and bad English I just cut and pasted.) I'm not too clear if they mean it all automatic or part automatic or if you watching 108 at the time or another station, or not got TV/box on. Regards David |
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On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:14:53 -0000, "David" wrote:
Just had a look at the Freesat web site. "Important news for freesat customers You can expect to see BBC One HD added to the EPG at Channel 108 from 7pm onwards on Wednesday 3rd November. BBC HD channel will move to Channel 109. These changes will update automatically on freesat boxes and TVs. To prompt these changes after 7pm, put your box or TV into standby for one minute, and then turn it back on. The EPG will then update. Customers with Humax boxes and LG TVs will need to accept the new channel prompt." (Now not my spelling mistakes and bad English I just cut and pasted.) BBC One HD is currently visible on a Humax Freesat box in "non-Freesat" mode. The picture is a red version of the BBC interprogramme stuff (swimmers moving in a circle, dogs weaving in and out of posts, helicopter taking off from a circular helipad, etc.) The text says "BBC One HD will be launching here with the One Show on 3 November". Apart from that there is the BBC One logo centre-screen and the channel numbers on Freesat, Freeview, Sky and Virgin Media. I'm not too clear if they mean it all automatic or part automatic or if you watching 108 at the time or another station, or not got TV/box on. What I'm expecting with a Humax box is to switch it into standby for one minute at or after 7pm, bring it out of standby, it will say that channels may have changed and will offer to do a scan, if I say yes or leave the message to time out it will do an update scan which will make the necessary changes. It won't matter what channel it was on before putting it into standby. I hope the "geniuses" in the BBC have thought this through properly. It seem to me that there will be a definite possibility of people missing the first few minutes of the One Show while their STBs or TVs do the update. I don't watch the One Show so that won't worry me. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Nov I hope the "geniuses" in the BBC have thought this through properly. Well I do not think they have! I just can't understand why 109 is not doing BBC HD now, yes a duplicate of 108, so on Wednesday we have nothing to do with continuing with BBC HD on one channel at least and we have the assurance that 109 is ok. Regards David |
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"David" wrote in message ... I just can't understand why 109 is not doing BBC HD now, yes a duplicate of 108, so on Wednesday we have nothing to do with continuing with BBC HD on one channel at least and we have the assurance that 109 is ok. Regards David personally, i'd rather they gave me the option of mapping bbc 1 hd to 101 and itv hd to 103. -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear! |
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On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:07:46 -0000, "David" wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 1 Nov I hope the "geniuses" in the BBC have thought this through properly. Well I do not think they have! I just can't understand why 109 is not doing BBC HD now, yes a duplicate of 108, so on Wednesday we have nothing to do with continuing with BBC HD on one channel at least and we have the assurance that 109 is ok. I can't think of any obvious technical reason for not doing that. The transmission capacity exists and is being use for a "coming soon" picture. It could be put into the Freesat channel list and EPG in advance of its starting to broadcast BBC One HD. Not doing that seems to be a strange way of doing things, and one that is likely to cause annoyance among keen but less technically minded viewers. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... " personally, i'd rather they gave me the option of mapping bbc 1 hd to 101 and itv hd to 103. Moving channels that was something these "Experts" decided not to put in the Spec. or did they just forget. My TV maker when I complained about its lack of the feature told me they were not allowed to include it by Freesat. Regards David |
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:07:46 -0000, "David" wrote: Not doing that seems to be a strange way of doing things, and one that is likely to cause annoyance among keen but less technically minded viewers. How are the other Platforms doing such as Sky, Freeview and Virgin Media have they got their numbers and transmissions going in advance? Regards David |
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In message , David
writes "The dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... " personally, i'd rather they gave me the option of mapping bbc 1 hd to 101 and itv hd to 103. Moving channels that was something these "Experts" decided not to put in the Spec. or did they just forget. My TV maker when I complained about its lack of the feature told me they were not allowed to include it by Freesat. Regards David OK, there must be a technical reason, and I'd be happy to hear it, but why can't they just "add" BBC1 HD on 109, leaving BBC HD alone? -- Ian |
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Mark Carver wrote:
wrote: I didn't put it quite like that, but his response was basically that if the BBC did that, then many people would go and watch ITV and/or Sky, and there'd be no publicly funded BBC left. A kind of "we have to half wreck it ourselves to stop someone else coming along and annihilating it completely" argument. It's worthy of something Douglas Adams might have written for THHGTTG. Or Heller, for Catch 22. Bill |
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On 1 Nov, 19:23, Mike Henry wrote:
In , " wrote: [...] To be fair, the argument wasn't BS. It went like this: BBC funding is always under threat. Lots of viewers claim to "never watch the BBC", which undermines the license fee. Whereas the truth is that most of these viewers do watch the BBC, but they forget they watch it, or don't know they're watching the BBC when they are. So if we put our logo on all the channels, they can't forget, and will realise what good value for money they're getting. That was the argument they used for putting a huge BBC logo slap bang on the screen in the first 10 seconds of every programme. It's a valid argument in that case. That's more for when the content finds its way onto other (especially non-BBC) channels. It's not an argument for extending this to a permanent DOG. Well, accepting the "our critics are idiots" argument, it is - these people might miss the start of the programme, or forget. My answer was we should go back to the 1930s, where such stupid people knew to keep their mouths shut, no one was interested in their opinions, and no one would take any notice of what they said. Rather than the 21st century attitude of running things to cater for the lowest common denominator, and ignoring the demands of anything better/ higher. I didn't put it quite like that, but his response was basically that if the BBC did that, then many people would go and watch ITV and/or Sky, and there'd be no publicly funded BBC left. A kind of "we have to half wreck it ourselves to stop someone else coming along and annihilating it completely" argument. I hope you put him right after that? What, you think I could have convinced him and changed BBC policy on the spot by reasoned argument? I shall restrain myself from commenting. I still regularly talk to folks from the Beeb (though not usually the pretentious ones!). What was said next? I went and looked at a demo of archiving all the BBC's terrestrial broadcasts, including BBCi, to HDD, and providing an interface to be able to experience an as-live recreation of the "red button" feature at some point in the future. After all, if what he said was true, the BBC would have permanent DOGs on SD BBC1 and BBC2 analogue+digital *right now* and would have done so since 1998. But instead, they know full well why they daren't put permanent DOGs on BBC1 and BBC2 analogue+digital. True - but by putting them on the HD version, and eventually phasing out the SD version, they've got what they want. I suspect the tide might turn - not such that the DOG is removed - but just _maybe_ by making it optional. You never know. Cheers, David. |
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On 1 Nov, 17:54, "David" wrote:
"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in ... " personally, i'd rather they gave me the option of mapping bbc 1 hd to 101 and itv hd to 103. Moving channels that was something these "Experts" decided not to put in the Spec. or did they just forget. My TV maker when I complained about its lack of the feature told me they were not allowed to include it by Freesat. Exactly - it's not a technical decision at all. AFAICT it's trivial for STB manufacturers to allow you to move channels, but if they offer that facility, they cannot used the Freesat branding (or, "legally", the Freesat EPG). Cheers, David. |
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