Scart to HDMI conversion
 

In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs. I suspect one reason for this
is that the plugs would project some distance from the back of the
set, and as their current range of edge-lit LED panels are very slim,
then it would negate the wall mounting advantages. I note you can get
90 degree HDMI cables.

The man in John Lewis advised that Samsung supply a Scart to HDMI
adapter with this range of TVs, and on checking the manual found this
to be the case. The picture shows an HDMI plug connected to a Scart
socket by 15cms or so of cable.

Now if you Google 'Scart to HDMI' converter you get lots of devices,
all having a chunky box and a power supply. This makes perfect sense
to me. So how do Samsung do an A/D conversion with a passive device?

GrahamC

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

"Graham C" wrote in message
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In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs. I suspect one reason for this
is that the plugs would project some distance from the back of the
set, and as their current range of edge-lit LED panels are very slim,
then it would negate the wall mounting advantages. I note you can get
90 degree HDMI cables.

The man in John Lewis advised that Samsung supply a Scart to HDMI
adapter with this range of TVs, and on checking the manual found this
to be the case. The picture shows an HDMI plug connected to a Scart
socket by 15cms or so of cable.

Now if you Google 'Scart to HDMI' converter you get lots of devices,
all having a chunky box and a power supply. This makes perfect sense
to me. So how do Samsung do an A/D conversion with a passive device?

Is there a 12v or 5v line in a SCART socket?

--
Alex

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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"Graham C" wrote in message
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In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs. I suspect one reason for this
is that the plugs would project some distance from the back of the
set, and as their current range of edge-lit LED panels are very slim,
then it would negate the wall mounting advantages. I note you can get
90 degree HDMI cables.

The man in John Lewis advised that Samsung supply a Scart to HDMI
adapter with this range of TVs, and on checking the manual found this
to be the case. The picture shows an HDMI plug connected to a Scart
socket by 15cms or so of cable.

Now if you Google 'Scart to HDMI' converter you get lots of devices,
all having a chunky box and a power supply. This makes perfect sense
to me. So how do Samsung do an A/D conversion with a passive device?

Is there a 12v or 5v line in a SCART socket?

Nope, but there is a 5v feed on the HDMI....
The spec says max 50ma, but I suppose Samsung could design their TVs to
support a higher output

--
Alex

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

On 14 Oct, 13:00, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote:
"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message

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"Graham C" wrote in message
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In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs. *I suspect one reason for this
is that the plugs would project some distance from the back of the
set, and as their current range of edge-lit LED panels are very slim,
then it would negate the wall mounting advantages. *I note you can get
90 degree HDMI cables.

The man in John Lewis advised that Samsung supply a Scart to HDMI
adapter with this range of TVs, and on checking the manual found this
to be the case. The picture shows an HDMI plug connected to a Scart
socket by 15cms or so of cable.

Now if you Google 'Scart to HDMI' converter you get lots of devices,
all having a chunky box and a power supply. *This makes perfect sense
to me. *So how do Samsung do an A/D conversion with a passive device?

Is there a 12v or 5v line in a SCART socket?

Nope, but there is a 5v feed on the HDMI....
The spec says max 50ma, but I suppose Samsung could design their TVs to
support a higher output

More trivially (if they so wished) Samsung could simply feed the
signals received in the SCART socket straight to the HDMI plug, and
have some intelligence in the TV to internally switch the physical
HDMI socket it to an internal SCART input or HDMI input depending on
the signal received.

Not saying they do, but that would make the "converter" box really
simple!

Cheers,
David.

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

On Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 12:54:27h +0100, Graham C wrote:

In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs.

The Samsung website claims that their TV models still have SCART
socket connections, eg this very recent model has TWO --

http://www.samsung.com/UK/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/3d-tv/UE40C8000XKXXU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

What it does not explain is that the actual PERITEL socket is not on the
TV its-self but on the end of an adapter cable which plugs into a small
socket on the back of the monitor.

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

On Oct 14, 2:43*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 12:54:27h +0100, Graham C wrote:
In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs.

The Samsung website claims that their TV models still have SCART
socket connections, eg this very recent model has TWO --

http://www.samsung.com/UK/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/3d-tv/UE...

What it does not explain is that the actual PERITEL socket is not on the
TV its-self but on the end of an adapter cable which plugs into a small
socket on the back of the monitor.

I would have thought that a telly without scarts would be a nightmare
for the retailers. People would come back and play hell. Remember the
VCRs without modulators?
And aren't scarts compulsory on tellys above a certain size sold in
the EEC?

Bill

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:


http://www.samsung.com/UK/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/3d-tv/UE40C8000XKXXU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

What it does not explain is that the actual PERITEL socket is not on the
TV its-self but on the end of an adapter cable which plugs into a small
socket on the back of the monitor.

I think you may have it there. A closer inspection of the manual
reveals that the adaptor is not an HDMI to scart, but a dedicated
device plugging into a special socket on the TV.

The men in John Lewis and Richer both confirmed incorrectly that the
device plugged into an HDMI socket.

Problem solved it seems

GrahamC

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

On Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 09:58:25h -0700, William Wright asked:

And aren't scarts compulsory on tellys above a certain size sold in
the EEC?

If the TV has an *analog* tuner.

Adopted as statute law in the UKofGB&NI --

The Advanced Television Services Regulations 2003 (No. 1901)

QUOTE

(1) No person shall sell or rent out, or offer or expose for sale or rent,
an analogue television set to which this regulation applies unless it
is fitted with at least one standardised open interface socket permitting
the simple connection of peripherals.

(2) This regulation applies to any analogue television set with an integral
viewing screen of visible diagonal greater than 42cm, except a television
set which was put on the market in any member State before 25th July 2003.

UNQUOTE

And also with CI capability.

http://www.difgroup.EU/policy-document/faq

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller wrote:

On Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 12:54:27h +0100, Graham C wrote:

In my quest for a new TV I became aware that Samsung have stopped
fitting Scart sockets to their LCD TVs.

The Samsung website claims that their TV models still have SCART
socket connections, eg this very recent model has TWO --

http://www.samsung.com/UK/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/3d-tv/UE40C8000XKXXU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

What it does not explain is that the actual PERITEL socket is not on the
TV its-self but on the end of an adapter cable which plugs into a small
socket on the back of the monitor.

Yup. My new Sammy LED had that, but the diagram in the 'manual' showed a
different sort of plug.
Had to find the socket by elimination and then try gently, as the plug is
similar to a SATA HDD's power plug and looked a bit flimsy. It's not too
easy to get sufficient light and, in my case, eyeball power all round a TV
and I was worried about breaking something.
It works well.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

Scart to HDMI conversion
 

In article , J G Miller wrote:
The Samsung website claims that their TV models still have SCART
socket connections, eg this very recent model has TWO --

http://www.samsung.com/UK/consumer/t...television/3d-
tv/UE40C8000XKXXU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

What it does not explain is that the actual PERITEL socket is not on the
TV its-self but on the end of an adapter cable which plugs into a small
socket on the back of the monitor.

Yes, mine's like that. The adaptor cable is only a few inches long, but by
careful manipulation you can ensure that the SCART to SCART join lies flat
against the socket panel, which is slightly recessed.

Rod.
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