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Scott October 3rd 10 05:19 PM

Component vs SCART
 
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:04:26 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Scott
saying something like:

Is there any difference in picture quality between a SCART connection
and a component connection? I'm running out of SCART sockets on my TV
and I am wondering whether to connect my best device or worst device
using a component lead. (I know to use HDMI if the device will
support it.)

Any help appreciated.


According to what I've read, the Sky (standard SD) RGB on SCART should
be equal to component, but it ain't so on my boxes. The component input
from the DVD is most definitely inferior, but that may be an
illustration of crappy componentry/processing in the player. That said,
the Sky RGB is of much better quality than I ever expected it to be, and
it's really noticeable how much better on an LCD telly than it ever was
on CRT.


Thanks

Graham. October 3rd 10 07:17 PM

Component vs SCART
 


"Scott" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:12:19 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Scott
saying something like:

OK, thanks. Sounds like I should be putting the preferred piece of
equipment into the 'component' input.


Best to try it each way round and see for yourself, imo. As pointed out
above, various bits of kit (and the telly) have their own
characteristics.
Fwiw, my box has only one SCART input, so I was forced to go component
for the DVD - previously, its SCART output was better, but I prefer
keeping the telly SCART input for the Sky box.


I think that is the massage, and thanks to everyone for their
comments. Another factor may be that the TV may only auto-detect from
SCART (and HDMI), so maybe the most used equipment should be SCART
connected.


This is true, I have to step though with the AV source button on my TV control
to select the component connected DVD recorder.
The SCART inputs helpfully assert themselves

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham. October 3rd 10 07:21 PM

Component vs SCART
 


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message ...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Scott
saying something like:

OK, thanks. Sounds like I should be putting the preferred piece of
equipment into the 'component' input.


Best to try it each way round and see for yourself, imo. As pointed out
above, various bits of kit (and the telly) have their own
characteristics.
Fwiw, my box has only one SCART input, so I was forced to go component
for the DVD - previously, its SCART output was better, but I prefer
keeping the telly SCART input for the Sky box.


Actually you could have connected the DVD to the VCR input of the Sky box.
It isn't always appreciated that when the Sky box is in standby the VCR
SCART has full RGB pass-through to the TV SCART

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



R. Mark Clayton October 3rd 10 10:06 PM

Component vs SCART
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...

Is there any difference in picture quality between a SCART connection
and a component connection? I'm running out of SCART sockets on my TV
and I am wondering whether to connect my best device or worst device
using a component lead. (I know to use HDMI if the device will
support it.)

Any help appreciated.


The important thing is to use good quality cables particularly SCART
ones. I don't mean the ridiculously priced ones that make even more
ridiculous claims about their performance. The ones supplied by Solent
Cables are top quality and in my experience the company gives excellent
service..

http://www.solentcables.co.uk/acatal...art-Cable.html

Peter Crosland


You were doing so well...
...Then spoilt it by linking to an oxygen free cable at about twice that I
would
feel comfortable paying for a 1m cable.


Double - double and then some.

A 1m RGB shielded cable from CPC is er one pound (£1).
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/ps...-1m/dp/AV18605

Scarts from under 50p, but that is 100+, 0.75m and might not be shielded.


I like the flat ribbon type SCART's particularly when the connecter is
horizontally
orientated as they are lighter, and such weight they possess is more
evenly distributed.
Also it is evident that each signal wire is individually screened which,
by far, is the
most important factor.



--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%




Brian Gregory [UK] October 4th 10 12:15 AM

Component vs SCART
 
"Scott" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 15:49:12 +0100, "The dog from that film you saw"
wrote:



"Scott" wrote in message
. ..



What I am getting at is the menu on my Sony Bravia TV refers to a
component input. If I use this because I have run out of SCART will I
get the same quality as I would using the SCART input. If its better
quality I will put my 'best' equipment into this input. If it is
worse quality I will put my 'worst' equipment into the input.





it depends what you are connecting.
at worst you'll probably not spot a difference, at best it could be
better.


OK, thanks. Sounds like I should be putting the preferred piece of
equipment into the 'component' input.

At least it means each bit of kit will have its own input.


It'd probably be a waste to put the VHS on the Component input.
The PVR has somewhat unknown status, it depends exactly what source(s) it
records and, maybe, how it's connected to them.
I'd probably go for the DVD on the composite input myself.

Also do you know if the two SCARTS are identical, I've known TV's that only
accept RGB via SCART on one of the SCART sockets; the other only accepting
Composite. (You don't necessarily notice this unless you inspect the
display closely since most devices output both Composite and RGB on the
SCART when set to output RGB)

--

Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.



Peter Duncanson October 4th 10 12:32 AM

Component vs SCART
 
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 22:46:19 +0100, Scott
wrote:

Is there any difference in picture quality between a SCART connection
and a component connection? I'm running out of SCART sockets on my TV
and I am wondering whether to connect my best device or worst device
using a component lead. (I know to use HDMI if the device will
support it.)

Any help appreciated.


Have you considered using a device such as the BLUE DELTA - SMART-SCART
- SCART SWITCHER, AUTO. It allows the Scart outputs from 4 devices to be
connected to a single TV Scart input. (Only one active at a time, of
course!)
http://cpc.farnell.com/blue-delta/sm...uto/dp/AV13264


I have one on each of 3 TVs. I haven't done any systematic tests to see
whether the switch box degrades the signals at all.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Graham. October 4th 10 01:27 AM

Component vs SCART
 



What I am getting at is the menu on my Sony Bravia TV refers to a
component input. If I use this because I have run out of SCART will I
get the same quality as I would using the SCART input. If its better
quality I will put my 'best' equipment into this input. If it is
worse quality I will put my 'worst' equipment into the input.




it depends what you are connecting.
at worst you'll probably not spot a difference, at best it could be better.


OK, thanks. Sounds like I should be putting the preferred piece of
equipment into the 'component' input.

At least it means each bit of kit will have its own input.


It'd probably be a waste to put the VHS on the Component input.


How would you do that without signal conversion?
I've never seen anything but composite on a VHS, and additionally Y/C (or S-Video) on an S-VHS machine

The PVR has somewhat unknown status, it depends exactly what source(s) it records and, maybe, how it's connected to them.
I'd probably go for the DVD on the composite input myself.


Surely you mean component not composite


Also do you know if the two SCARTS are identical, I've known TV's that only accept RGB via SCART on one of the SCART sockets; the
other only accepting Composite. (You don't necessarily notice this unless you inspect the display closely since most devices
output both Composite and RGB on the SCART when set to output RGB)



--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



[email protected] October 4th 10 01:47 AM

Component vs SCART
 
On Oct 3, 7:38*pm, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
* *Graham. wrote:

This is true, I have to step though with the AV source button on my TV
control to select the component connected DVD recorder. The SCART inputs
helpfully assert themselves


One man's meat. I find it most irritating and have gone to great lengths
to kill this feature.

Great lengths? What were they? Twenty seconds with a pair of cutters
does it for me.

It makes two ridiculous assumptions, firstly that
you intend to watch the device and secondly that you will watch it on a
scart connected TV. One or the other is usually wrong in my house.
Grrrrrrrr hate it.

Oh, but the vast majority find it helpful. It's great to say to the
customer, "Now, when you turn the receiver on, the telly will switch
to it by itself." A lot of tellys aren't very well thought out when it
comes to selecting AV sources, and having to tell some old dear to
press AV then press red for satellite, blue for DVD, etc (without
pausing too long), is not good news.

Bill

[email protected] October 4th 10 01:48 AM

Component vs SCART
 
On Oct 3, 9:06*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"Graham." wrote in message
A 1m RGB shielded cable from CPC is er one pound (£1).http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/ps...-lead-1m/dp/AV...

Scarts from under 50p, but that is 100+, 0.75m and might not be shielded.


As a matter of interest I wanted some compartmentalised dado trunking
t'other day and CPC's price was double that of QVS.

Bill

j r powell[_2_] October 4th 10 02:00 AM

Component vs SCART
 

"P. G." wrote in message
...
On Oct 3, 7:38 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Graham. wrote:

This is true, I have to step though with the AV source button on my TV
control to select the component connected DVD recorder. The SCART inputs
helpfully assert themselves


One man's meat. I find it most irritating and have gone to great lengths
to kill this feature.


Great lengths? What were they? Twenty seconds with a pair of cutters
does it for me.


Yet another Pikey Bill Bodge (or YaPBB - this would become a common acronym if
the group's users were more enlightened).
On the vast majority of sets, snipping pin 8 of the SCART connector with a pair
of cutters to disable automatic input selection causes them to also ignore the
RGB blanking signal, rendering all content viewed through the sabotaged SCART
connector composite only.
You need to be replaced if you haven't noticed this.


Oh, but the vast majority find it helpful. It's great to say to the
customer, "Now, when you turn the receiver on, the telly will switch
to it by itself." A lot of tellys aren't very well thought out when it
comes to selecting AV sources, and having to tell some old dear to
press AV then press red for satellite, blue for DVD, etc (without
pausing too long), is not good news.


Good job the below-average-IQ customers you so love to mock (with their
unusually eccentric AV setups) are nearly all fictional, then.


jamie.
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