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Engineers are undervalued in the UK
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
... On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:06:07 +0100, "Steve Terry" wrote: " wrote in message ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._the_Engineer/ Still waiting for HG Wells "shape of things to come" to come true The military and bureaucrats still rule, the time for us technocrats has still to come Don't hold your breath. The problem for the technocrats is that they provide tools for other people to use. They empower the military, bureaucrats and ordinary people. Peter Duncanson Agreed, and computerisation is making it ever easier to empower the military, bureaucrats and ordinary people. Also technocrats Egos aren't inflated enough to want to take power, making us turkeys voting for Christmas. Bob Oppenheimer was probably the first to realise that after giving the morons in the US military the Bomb. Steve Terry -- "I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena without having guns pointed at me. I also ask for the right to be wrong without being hanged for it." - Wilhelm Reich, November 1947 |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
"Steve Terry" wrote in message ... " wrote in message ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._the_Engineer/ Still waiting for HG Wells "shape of things to come" to come true The military and bureaucrats still rule, the time for us technocrats has still to come Wasn't this country ruled by an industrial chemist a while back? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
On 28 Sep, 01:45, "
wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._Understood_Th... The creeping mis-use of language (mostly unintentionally) coupled with the frankly rubbish communication abilities of the average person. It's somewhat frightening how powerful the simple use of language can be. |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
"Graham." wrote in message
... "Steve Terry" wrote in message ... " wrote in message ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._the_Engineer/ Still waiting for HG Wells "shape of things to come" to come true The military and bureaucrats still rule, the time for us technocrats has still to come Wasn't this country ruled by an industrial chemist a while back? Graham. The way she treated Inmos showed she hated anything technical Steve Terry -- "I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena without having guns pointed at me. I also ask for the right to be wrong without being hanged for it." - Wilhelm Reich, November 1947 |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 05:21:47 -0700 (PDT), MartinR
wrote: On 28 Sep, 01:45, " wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._Understood_Th... The same old mantra no doubt. Engineers - proper engineers with degrees - have been complaining for years about the misuse of the term. In my youth my uncles, who were mainly machine tool operators, were called engineers. Nowadays the man who fixes your washing machine or (dare I say it in this group?) the man who installs your TV aerial is also called an engineer. Engineer should be a protected term, like doctor or barrister. I can still recall my mother's disappointment when I said I was going to be an engineer. She took it that I was going to work on steam railway engines (not that that would have been a bad job mind you). -- AnthonyL |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
In article , AnthonyL
scribeth thus On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 05:21:47 -0700 (PDT), MartinR wrote: On 28 Sep, 01:45, " wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._Understood_Th... The same old mantra no doubt. Engineers - proper engineers with degrees - have been complaining for years about the misuse of the term. In my youth my uncles, who were mainly machine tool operators, were called engineers. Nowadays the man who fixes your washing machine or (dare I say it in this group?) the man who installs your TV aerial is also called an engineer. Engineer should be a protected term, like doctor or barrister. I can still recall my mother's disappointment when I said I was going to be an engineer. She took it that I was going to work on steam railway engines (not that that would have been a bad job mind you). Thats where ex engineers work after retirement;).. I remember Derrick Scotland of Audio lab fame and he was an engineer if ever there was one of the can do for 5 bob what any fool can do for a quid standard .. once said that the answer to the engineer problem was the Universities and people's attitude towards them in that, tell anyone that your Son's off to Cambridge to study Law, Medicine or accounting then fine .. all's as it ought be but mention Engineering then its all despair and ... .... "where did we go wrong with our Son" ... That was in 1982 .. I rather doubt anything's changed since.. -- Tony Sayer |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:53:29 +0100
tony sayer wrote: tell anyone that your Son's off to Cambridge to study Law, Medicine or accounting then fine .. all's as it ought be but mention Engineering then its all despair and ... .... "where did we go wrong with our Son" ... Depends on the family. If the parents are thick arts graduates themselves then perhaps, but in general I think engineers are well respected in this country by the general populous, if not by the (generally arts grad) ruling classes. B2003 |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
Alan Whit wrote:
They haven't a clue about Engineers. I agree. Hardly anyone in the general populace understands the difference between an Engineer and a technician. Incidentally, I wonder if "engineer" (without the capital) is actually an accepted job title. Anyone know? SteveT |
Engineers are undervalued in the UK
On 30/09/2010 18:38, Steve Thackery wrote:
Alan Whit wrote: They haven't a clue about Engineers. I agree. Hardly anyone in the general populace understands the difference between an Engineer and a technician. Incidentally, I wonder if "engineer" (without the capital) is actually an accepted job title. Anyone know? It's in my job title. But then, I'm in software... and I too think Engineers (those who exercise their ingenuity, same root) are undervalued. Peggy can be found on you-tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCRRe72mwwY Andy |
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