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Doctor D September 10th 10 11:01 PM

Had the IRS install today
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Nick Le Lievre wrote:


Here http://user.itl.net/~nlel/cable.JPG is a photo of the trunking
showing the 2 feed cable sticking out from the bottom of it...


Ummm. When are they returning to finish off, and hoover up the dust ?


Quite. A kickable offence when I was training.

That's shotgun cable. How long is the run?
Why didn't they come down the corner of the room?


Grimly Curmudgeon September 11th 10 02:41 AM

Had the IRS install today
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "
saying something like:

True enough but proper TV systems are done to a higher standard. You
have to remember that when the resident moves out the room's going to
look just charming for the next person with some 'orrible wires
hanging down the wall.


And the stick-on trunking dangling there as it's lost its stickiness.

Grimly Curmudgeon September 11th 10 02:51 AM

Had the IRS install today
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Nick Le Lievre"
saying something like:

Here http://user.itl.net/~nlel/cable.JPG is a photo of the trunking showing
the 2 feed cable sticking out from the bottom of it... at the end of the
cable there are two f connectors going into my Sky + HD Box there is no
wallplate installed or wallplate box


They couldn't even be arsed to hoover up after they'd done it.

Nick Le Lievre September 11th 10 11:26 AM

Had the IRS install today
 
"Doctor D" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Nick Le Lievre wrote:


Here http://user.itl.net/~nlel/cable.JPG is a photo of the trunking
showing the 2 feed cable sticking out from the bottom of it...


Ummm. When are they returning to finish off, and hoover up the dust ?


Quite. A kickable offence when I was training.

That's shotgun cable. How long is the run?
Why didn't they come down the corner of the room?


I do not know how long the run is but my picture is fine. They tried to run
it down the corner but ran into some timber when drilling through the
ceiling. They had to fill another hole they`d created in the ceiling with
some polyfilla.


Doctor D September 11th 10 01:30 PM

Had the IRS install today
 

"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message
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"Doctor D" wrote in message
...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Nick Le Lievre wrote:


Here http://user.itl.net/~nlel/cable.JPG is a photo of the trunking
showing the 2 feed cable sticking out from the bottom of it...

Ummm. When are they returning to finish off, and hoover up the dust ?


Quite. A kickable offence when I was training.

That's shotgun cable. How long is the run?
Why didn't they come down the corner of the room?


I do not know how long the run is but my picture is fine. They tried to
run it down the corner but ran into some timber when drilling through the
ceiling. They had to fill another hole they`d created in the ceiling with
some polyfilla.



That will explain the sawdust on the floor then!

I understood that lengths of over 20m of cheap shotgun cable were lossy.
This won't show up as a grainy picture but you may suffer more break up in
the signal when it's raining heavily and the incoming signal to the dish is
attenuated.

What readings are you getting for signal strength and quality in the
settings menu?


Paul Ratcliffe September 11th 10 02:59 PM

Had the IRS install today
 
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:30:44 +0100, Doctor D wrote:

I understood that lengths of over 20m of cheap shotgun cable were lossy.
This won't show up as a grainy picture but you may suffer more break up in
the signal when it's raining heavily and the incoming signal to the dish is
attenuated.


You're talking about two different effects now. Cable loss is overcome by
having enough gain in the LNB to account for it. Rain fade margin is
defined by the noise figure of the LNB and the size of the dish.

Doctor D September 11th 10 04:42 PM

Had the IRS install today
 

"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message
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"Doctor D" wrote in message
...

What readings are you getting for signal strength and quality in the
settings menu?


I am getting about 80% signal strength 100% signal quality on input 1 and
90% signal strength 100% quality on input2 so all in all pretty decent


Looks like you should have no problems with that.


Doctor D September 11th 10 04:47 PM

Had the IRS install today
 

"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:30:44 +0100, Doctor D
wrote:

I understood that lengths of over 20m of cheap shotgun cable were lossy.
This won't show up as a grainy picture but you may suffer more break up
in
the signal when it's raining heavily and the incoming signal to the dish
is
attenuated.


You're talking about two different effects now. Cable loss is overcome by
having enough gain in the LNB to account for it. Rain fade margin is
defined by the noise figure of the LNB and the size of the dish.


But, won't a long/poor cable run exacerbate the effect of rain fade?
Surely a shorter/better cable run will help mask the effects of a reduction
in signal levels produced at the LNB?


Nick Le Lievre September 11th 10 05:04 PM

Had the IRS install today
 
"Doctor D" wrote in message
o.uk...

But, won't a long/poor cable run exacerbate the effect of rain fade?
Surely a shorter/better cable run will help mask the effects of a
reduction in signal levels produced at the LNB?


I think the "shotgun" cable run is not that long, maybe up into the loft, I
think there is a tap in the loft although I do not know what a tap is can
someone explain


Andy Burns[_7_] September 11th 10 05:51 PM

Had the IRS install today
 
Nick Le Lievre wrote:

I think the "shotgun" cable run is not that long, maybe up into the
loft, I think there is a tap in the loft although I do not know what a
tap is can someone explain


Your connection will be back to a multiswitch (taps aren't used with
satellite systems, they don't allow your STB to select which
band/polarisation it wants to see on each input).

You seem determined to give your installers the benefit of the doubt, 5
man hours for such an untidy install ...


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