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In article , Martin
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:39:59 +0100, "Rick" wrote:



From Wikipedia, Political views..

"Hislop has been highly critical of all major British political parties
for over 20 years.

When was he highly critical of Cameron and Osborne?

I've been reading PE for years. That has often criticised them both since
they became leaders of the tories. Go and look at the recent (or earlier)
copies and *read* them if you don't believe me. That has for some time been
pointing out the way Snooty and his Pals have behaved. In particular
exposing:

A) where they have reversed what they said they'd do before the came to
power.

B) how their policies benefit those who have given them dosh, etc.

if you want an evidence-based debate on this, you and Bill could try
posting on a *political* group. Not trying to hide away in OT threads here.
Also read PE. Find a local library and read though the last few years of
issues. Note how they also expose Tory councils, *and* LibDem ones, *and*
Labour ones when they get up to no good.

Slainte,

Jim

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In article [email protected], Rick
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:39:59 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


Did you watch the episodes of HIGNFY leading up to the election? His
idea of a satirical joke was to say Brown or to make remarks about
Brown's appearance.



I refer you back to my original post, did you watch the show evolve
politically in the dying Labour years, under Gordon? If so you would
have seen that even the most ''right on'' leftie comedians found it
increasingly difficult to try and create any kind of humour out of
attempting to defend the indefensible..


And the point of a *comedy* *satire* programme is to go for *those in
power* regardless of the colour of their CV.

That's probably as close as this tedious thread gets to being relevant to
this group. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:41:18 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:39:59 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


Did you watch the episodes of HIGNFY leading up to the election?
His idea of a satirical joke was to say Brown or to make remarks about
Brown's
appearance.



I refer you back to my original post, did you watch the show evolve
politically in the dying Labour years, under Gordon? If so you would have
seen that even the most ''right on'' leftie comedians found it
increasingly
difficult to try and create any kind of humour out of attempting to defend
the indefensible..

It is supposed to be a comedy programme, not a party political broadcast.
There are/were plenty of things done by that made me smile.
Constantly changing policies to match what was perceived as what was
wanted by
the public deserved at least a comment.


Yes, but they earn their bread bread and butter by making people laugh and
to that end there was without doubt shed loads more of humorous mileage to
be wrung out of the demise of Gordon and Nulabour, than would have been
achieved by trying to extract the **** out of Cameron and Osborne, it's
wot's known in comedic circles as 'milking the audience'..

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"Mark" wrote in message
...
Last week I went on a break to an area that has already switched off
the analogue transmissions. Analogue reception was satisfactory
before switch-over. The things we notice now:

- The sound often does not sync with the picture.

Sound is fine and 48kPCM - comparable to Nicam and FM.

- regular loss of the sound and picture for several seconds.

Poor aerial probably

- Set top box "freezes" every now and again and has to be unplugged.

Ditto or its a rubbish box.

- Most of the extra channels have nothing I would want to watch
anyway.

Possibly

- The only new channel I watched is "Dave" and it has too many
adverts, DOGs and other irritations for me to watch if it wasn't
pouring with rain.

Picture quality is better than analog - widescreen and RGB.
The picture quality is slightly superior on satellite and Freesat HD is very
good.

- Digital teletext seems as slow as the analogue variety.

It is faster than teletext or fast text, but not as fast as an analog set
with memory which has had time to load up all the pages...


And this is progress.....
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In article , R. Mark
Clayton
wrote:

"Mark" wrote in message
...
Last week I went on a break to an area that has already switched off
the analogue transmissions. Analogue reception was satisfactory
before switch-over. The things we notice now:

- The sound often does not sync with the picture.

Sound is fine and 48kPCM - comparable to Nicam and FM.

Erm. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think 'Freeview' sound is transmitted as
PCM. It is based on 48k sample-rate, though.

Slainte,

Jim

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:19:34 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article [email protected], Rick
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:39:59 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


Did you watch the episodes of HIGNFY leading up to the election? His
idea of a satirical joke was to say Brown or to make remarks about
Brown's appearance.



I refer you back to my original post, did you watch the show evolve
politically in the dying Labour years, under Gordon? If so you would
have seen that even the most ''right on'' leftie comedians found it
increasingly difficult to try and create any kind of humour out of
attempting to defend the indefensible..


And the point of a *comedy* *satire* programme is to go for *those in
power* regardless of the colour of their CV.

Yes. They perform a function similar to that of a court jester in times
past:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_jester

In ancient times courts employed fools and by the Middle Ages the
jester was a familiar figure. In Renaissance times, aristocratic
households in Britain employed licensed fools or jesters,.. Regarded
as pets or mascots, they served not simply to amuse but to criticise
their master or mistress and their guests. Queen Elizabeth (reigned
1558-1603) is said to have rebuked one of her fools for being
lead to a fool being whipped, ...

That's probably as close as this tedious thread gets to being relevant to
this group. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:13:04 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:19:34 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article [email protected], Rick
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:39:59 +0100, "Rick" wrote:


Did you watch the episodes of HIGNFY leading up to the election? His
idea of a satirical joke was to say Brown or to make remarks about
Brown's appearance.



I refer you back to my original post, did you watch the show evolve
politically in the dying Labour years, under Gordon? If so you would
have seen that even the most ''right on'' leftie comedians found it
increasingly difficult to try and create any kind of humour out of
attempting to defend the indefensible..


And the point of a *comedy* *satire* programme is to go for *those in
power* regardless of the colour of their CV.

Yes. They perform a function similar to that of a court jester in times
past:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_jester

In ancient times courts employed fools and by the Middle Ages the
jester was a familiar figure. In Renaissance times, aristocratic
households in Britain employed licensed fools or jesters,.. Regarded
as pets or mascots, they served not simply to amuse but to criticise
their master or mistress and their guests. Queen Elizabeth (reigned
1558-1603) is said to have rebuked one of her fools for being

Curses - finger trouble. Try:

... is said to have rebuked one of her fools for being
insufficiently severe with her...

That's probably as close as this tedious thread gets to being relevant to
this group. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

My first experience of freeview ;-)
 

On Aug 20, 12:19*pm, Jim Lesurf wrote:
And the point of a *comedy* *satire* programme is to go for *those in
power* regardless of the colour of their CV.

No, satire can be used on any public figure, whether in power or not.
Think of Spitting Image.

Bill

My first experience of freeview ;-)
 

On Aug 20, 12:17*pm, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Martin
if you want an evidence-based debate on this, you and Bill could try
posting on a *political* group. Not trying to hide away in OT threads here.
Also read PE. Find a local library and read though the last few years of
issues. Note how they also expose Tory councils, *and* LibDem ones, *and*
Labour ones when they get up to no good.

I buy a PE occasionally, but I find it a bit self-absorbed sometimes.
It is, as they say, a bit specialised for the general reader. I've
never felt that the mag had any particular political leaning.

I've got some of those flexible gramophone records that they used to
put on the cover in the 1960s.

Bill

My first experience of freeview ;-)
 

On Aug 20, 4:46*pm, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:13:04 +0100, Peter Duncanson





wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:19:34 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article [email protected], Rick
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:39:59 +0100, "Rick" wrote:

Did you watch the episodes of HIGNFY leading up to the election? His
idea of a satirical joke was to say Brown or to make remarks about
Brown's appearance.

I refer you back to my original post, did you watch the show evolve
politically in the dying Labour years, under Gordon? *If so you would
have seen that even the most ''right on'' leftie comedians found it
increasingly difficult to try and create any kind of humour out of
attempting to defend the indefensible..

And the point of a *comedy* *satire* programme is to go for *those in
power* regardless of the colour of their CV.

Yes. They perform a function similar to that of a court jester in times
past:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_jester

* *In ancient times courts employed fools and by the Middle Ages the
* *jester was a familiar figure. In Renaissance times, aristocratic
* *households in Britain employed licensed fools or jesters,.. Regarded
* *as pets or mascots, they served not simply to amuse but to criticise
* *their master or mistress and their guests. Queen Elizabeth (reigned
* *1558-1603) is said to have rebuked one of her fools for being

Curses - finger trouble. Try:

* * ... is said to have rebuked one of her fools for being
* * insufficiently severe with her...

Yes, and what about the whipping? Pant pant!

Bill