New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:17:17 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:59:33 +0100, Fred wrote:

I was told it was due to weight. CRTs are heavy so it costs more to
ship them halfway around the world. LCDs and plasmas are lighter and
also thinner, so they can fit more in a container too.

There isn't a lot in the weight between our old 28" CRT and 42"
plasma... Packaged volume is another matter, the box for the CRT made
a great play house for the kids for quite a while, the plasma box is
only 9" deep, useless as a playhouse. B-)

Useful for a cat though

at least the LCD box fits into the attic

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

In message , Albert Ross
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:50:52 +0100, "John"
wrote:


But items made of metal - requiring welding, brazing, assembly, etc seem to
carry a premium as their production methods aren't as advanced or as
efficient as a purely electronic item. On this assumption though a TV should
cost even less - but there is a lot of material in the casing and the
screen. Packaging and shipping - along with what the market will pay is also
a factor. Selling plasma TVs to people with a perfectly adequate CRT TV
proved that people will pay for very little improvement in 'functionality'.

That's very likely part of it, electronics can be knocked up in a
Chinese shed by robots and low paid people and don't cost a lot to
ship.

Actual metal bashing needs more man-hours and is still done in the UK
occasionally. Too heavy and bulky to freight at low cost.

Having said which there's probably a massive mark-up on a boiler

Not as much as there is on some of the parts

--
geoff

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:33:28 +0100, geoff wrote:

In message , Albert Ross
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:50:52 +0100, "John"
wrote:


But items made of metal - requiring welding, brazing, assembly, etc seem to
carry a premium as their production methods aren't as advanced or as
efficient as a purely electronic item. On this assumption though a TV should
cost even less - but there is a lot of material in the casing and the
screen. Packaging and shipping - along with what the market will pay is also
a factor. Selling plasma TVs to people with a perfectly adequate CRT TV
proved that people will pay for very little improvement in 'functionality'.

That's very likely part of it, electronics can be knocked up in a
Chinese shed by robots and low paid people and don't cost a lot to
ship.

Actual metal bashing needs more man-hours and is still done in the UK
occasionally. Too heavy and bulky to freight at low cost.

Having said which there's probably a massive mark-up on a boiler

Not as much as there is on some of the parts

Oh yes that too. Our fitter recommended a Vaillant. His experience was
that Worcesters weren't nearly as good as they're supposed to be and
some other makes were impossible to fix, Vaillants were manufactured
to be repairable and at a reasonable cost, although his definition of
reasonable probably differed significantly from yours or mine.

An agricultural magazine looked into parts costs, the winner was a
simple bolt which could be obtained anywhere but which the
manufacturer had marked up several thousand percent. That's where many
industries make the bulk of their profit, rather than knocking up
cheap disposable stuff like electronics.

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

In article , Fred [email protected]
email.here.invalid writes

One disappointing thing is that you used to be able to get small TVs
(~14 inch) quite cheaply to use in the kitchen/bedroom/wherever but I
haven't seen anything small and cheap yet.

You can't compare the size of CRT TVs and LCD TVs directly. If you had
a 28" CRT and bought a 28" LCD to replace it, you'd be disappointed.

A 19" LCD is about right for the viewing distance for a 14" CRT, and
there are plenty of these around, most of them have Freeview built in.

--
Mike Tomlinson

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

In message , Albert Ross
writes
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:33:28 +0100, geoff wrote:

In message , Albert Ross
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:50:52 +0100, "John"
wrote:


But items made of metal - requiring welding, brazing, assembly, etc seem to
carry a premium as their production methods aren't as advanced or as
efficient as a purely electronic item. On this assumption though a TV should
cost even less - but there is a lot of material in the casing and the
screen. Packaging and shipping - along with what the market will pay is also
a factor. Selling plasma TVs to people with a perfectly adequate CRT TV
proved that people will pay for very little improvement in 'functionality'.

That's very likely part of it, electronics can be knocked up in a
Chinese shed by robots and low paid people and don't cost a lot to
ship.

Actual metal bashing needs more man-hours and is still done in the UK
occasionally. Too heavy and bulky to freight at low cost.

Having said which there's probably a massive mark-up on a boiler

Not as much as there is on some of the parts

Oh yes that too. Our fitter recommended a Vaillant. His experience was
that Worcesters weren't nearly as good as they're supposed to be and
some other makes were impossible to fix, Vaillants were manufactured
to be repairable and at a reasonable cost, although his definition of
reasonable probably differed significantly from yours or mine.

I used to recommend worcester, but I see so much worcester stuff coming
in now, not any more

Yes, vaillant seems to be the fitters weapon of choice nowadays


--
geoff