New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

john hamilton wrote:
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set repaired,
and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer choice
seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in the
future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we would
benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take advantage of
future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name are
probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not worth paying
extra for a Japanese name?

Maybe it is.

Sony software is IME a bit better. OK the LCD is the same probably, but
what drives it may be somewhat better.

There are some downright irritating users interfaces out there, and
having processing power on digital signals that cant keep up with rapid
picture change, or possibly interpolate data to give the most pleasant
results from a limited bandwidth compressed stream.

Fortunately, the TV showroom is your friend. If they wont watch you
select a bunch of different channels, and play with the controls, find a
shop that will.

Pick one that seems best to YOU on the stuff YOU lie to watch, after
you have reset the color balance of course. The most telling trick is to
make the cheaper TV look crap by maladjusting it.



Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of reasonable
quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would prefer to keep the
price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.



Best bargain I saw was a repaired 36" CRT set for 30 quid. Very tempted.
I have a few STB's.

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

john hamilton wrote:
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set repaired,
and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer choice
seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in the
future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we would
benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take advantage of
future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name are
probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not worth paying
extra for a Japanese name?

Maybe it is.

Sony software is IME a bit better. OK the LCD is the same probably, but
what drives it may be somewhat better.

There are some downright irritating users interfaces out there, and
having processing power on digital signals that cant keep up with rapid
picture change, or possibly interpolate data to give the most pleasant
results from a limited bandwidth compressed stream.

Fortunately, the TV showroom is your friend. If they wont watch you
select a bunch of different channels, and play with the controls, find a
shop that will.

Pick one that seems best to YOU on the stuff YOU lie to watch, after
you have reset the color balance of course. The most telling trick is to
make the cheaper TV look crap by maladjusting it.



Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of reasonable
quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would prefer to keep the
price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.



Best bargain I saw was a repaired 36" CRT set for 30 quid. Very tempted.
I have a few STB's.

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

geoff wrote:
In message
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On Jul 25, 6:37 pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
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geoff writes:
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mike writes
On Jul 25, 2:25 pm, "js.b1" wrote:

If you are used to CRT, no LCD is a perfect replacement

Given that, until a few years ago, we were all used to CRT, how come
so many have gone over to LCD and CRT are now impossible to buy new?

Life moves on

Price depends on volume, and as LCDs became popular and CRT sales
volume fell, CRT prices go north. Manufacturers wantt o get into LCDs
before that point so they can keep up with ongoing product development
rather than being left behind.

CRT sets are easy to buy of course, they're just all used sets now.


Have you tried buying a camera that takes emulsion film lately, or an
IDE hard drive?

there's no shortage of either, but why would a manufacturer invest in
an obsolescent technology like fim cameras.
Most HDD sellers still have IDEs


The last factory mass producing TV tubes closed down.
There is still a small requirement for CRTs for other
purposes, but apparently the price of such tubes has
jumped almost 10 fold.

BTW, I bought a 250GB IDE drive about a year ago, and
they are still around, even though SATA overtook IDE (PATA)
in 2004 in terms of quantities manufacturered.


As was said a few posts up, CRTs still win in every respect bar one,
ie that LCDs look better when off. I wouldnt rule out CRT TVs yet.

Well, if as Andrew says "The last factory mass producing TV tubes closed
down." , I think you might have to



Loads of life left in S/H CRT's

I've owned 25yr + CRT TVs. Still going reasonably well although the guns
were getting weak.

Cheap as chips to pick up a 5 year old analogue set with a SCART on it
to attach an STB.

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On 25/07/2010 17:07, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:03:40 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

You might be surprised to know that even central heating boilers
are
expected to only have a 5-7- year life now

I'm not that surprised. Mine has been running for 20 years, and I'm
resisting all attempts to persuade me to change it until it goes
altogether. On something as low-tech and yet as highly priced as a
boiler it's a disgrace that the expected life is so short.

Modern boilers are no longer low-tech as in BFO burner and lump of
cast iron through which water circulates possibly under nothing more
than the influence of gravity. Modern boilers have modulating
burners, several safety interlocks and their sensors, complex low
capacity ali heat exchangers that *must* have water flow for a while
after the burner cuts out, etc etc and recover heat from the flu
gases. Far to many bits to go wrong these days.

That's just the reason we opted for a standard boiler before the new
regs cam in.

Dave

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On 25/07/2010 17:07, Michaelangelo wrote:
john hamilton burst on the scene, and said:


Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand
name are probably manufactured in China or Taiwan?

Not necessarily. Many of the best known Japanese companies have
manufacturing bases in Europe. My new (three days old) Samsung monitor
was made in Hungary.

I think it's always best to go for a brand that you recognise and has a
track record of good after-sales service, which should apply regardless
of where the actual factory is located As others have said, 'you get
what you pay for'.

Having been a big fan of Panasonic goods, I have never had to use their
after sales service. I think a better way of doing this is for someone
to create a web site, or wiki of manufacturers product satisfaction.

Dave

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On 25/07/2010 17:07, Michaelangelo wrote:
john hamilton burst on the scene, and said:


Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand
name are probably manufactured in China or Taiwan?

Not necessarily. Many of the best known Japanese companies have
manufacturing bases in Europe. My new (three days old) Samsung monitor
was made in Hungary.

I think it's always best to go for a brand that you recognise and has a
track record of good after-sales service, which should apply regardless
of where the actual factory is located As others have said, 'you get
what you pay for'.

Having been a big fan of Panasonic goods, I have never had to use their
after sales service. I think a better way of doing this is for someone
to create a web site, or wiki of manufacturers product satisfaction.

Dave

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

Bob Henson wrote:

One problem with built in tuners is that, as far as I am aware, most of
those sets don't have a hard drive and recording facility built in, thus
necessitating another box as well.

It's just more convenient to have everything available on the TV set's
remote. I prefer not to have the TV set reliant on an external box.

Bill

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

Bill wrote:

The bunch of no-marks who "planned" the digital changeover have stuck
Welsh TV onto a mast designed to face the opposite way and provide the
sheltered-from-Winter Hill, Mersey shores of Liverpool with English TV.
This mast is now pointing Welsh at the mainly English speaking Welsh
banks of the Dee and in the process has made reception in this part of
Cheshire pretty weird. Polarisation and channels of these backward
facing Welsh are virtually the same as WH, so this is a real test of the
logic of tuner set up procedures.

All verrrry interesting... See also
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/article...at-retunes.pdf

Bill

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On 25/07/2010 13:41, john hamilton wrote:

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of reasonable
quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would prefer to keep the
price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.

In order of (descending) importance for non-critical 'coronation street' use

1) easy of use
2) reliability
3) sound quality
4) power consumption
5) picture quality
6) features 1080p
7) make - Morrisons Neon
8) country of manufacture - Ex soviet bloc

In order of (descending) importance for critical 'bluyray films in the
dark' building in bragging rights ...

1) country of manufacture - Japan
1) make - Sony
2) features 1080p
3) picture quality
4) power consumption
5) sound quality
6) reliability
7) ease of use

Or thereabouts ;-)

--
Adrian C

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 

On 25/07/2010 13:41, john hamilton wrote:

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of reasonable
quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would prefer to keep the
price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.

In order of (descending) importance for non-critical 'coronation street' use

1) easy of use
2) reliability
3) sound quality
4) power consumption
5) picture quality
6) features 1080p
7) make - Morrisons Neon
8) country of manufacture - Ex soviet bloc

In order of (descending) importance for critical 'bluyray films in the
dark' building in bragging rights ...

1) country of manufacture - Japan
1) make - Sony
2) features 1080p
3) picture quality
4) power consumption
5) sound quality
6) reliability
7) ease of use

Or thereabouts ;-)

--
Adrian C