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Scott July 25th 10 03:55 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:41:35 +0100, "john hamilton"
wrote:

Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set repaired,
and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer choice
seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in the
future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we would
benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take advantage of
future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name are
probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not worth paying
extra for a Japanese name?


[snip]

My impression is that 'Japanese' sets are usually assembled in eastern
Europe. My Sony was assembled in Slovakia.

Scott July 25th 10 03:55 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:41:35 +0100, "john hamilton"
wrote:

Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set repaired,
and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer choice
seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in the
future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we would
benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take advantage of
future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name are
probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not worth paying
extra for a Japanese name?


[snip]

My impression is that 'Japanese' sets are usually assembled in eastern
Europe. My Sony was assembled in Slovakia.

Bob Henson July 25th 10 04:18 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 


"David" wrote in message
:

"john hamilton" wrote in message
...
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set
repaired, and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer
choice seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in
the future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we
would benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take advantage
of future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name
are probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not worth
paying extra for a Japanese name?

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of
reasonable quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would prefer to
keep the price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.



I have a Panasonic with Freesat HD built in, Panasonic always seem to be
"Best Buys" in reviews.
Personally would not buy a new TV without a Freesat HD or Freeview HD built
in.


One problem with built in tuners is that, as far as I am aware, most of
those sets don't have a hard drive and recording facility built in, thus
necessitating another box as well. Similarly, if the tuner "breaks" for
any reason, you need to buy the whole new TV. Another problem is that if
(more likely when) there are new technological developments you have to
get a new TV set to upgrade, whereas a separate box is cheaper and
easier to change. Perhaps the best way at the moment is to have a TV set
with Freeview HD built in, and a separate Freesat box. I'd do it that
way as most new developments are likely to be available on satellite
first, and in most areas (unless you're in a very good terrestrial
reception area) the HD picture will most likely be better on satellite.
My set only has an ordinary terrestrial tuner built in (HD terrestrial
didn't exist when I bought it) but it makes a useful backup (and gives
you a few more channels) on the very rare occasions (exceptionally heavy
rain or snow) when satellite reception is not 100%.

Back to John's original question as to which brand of TV, I think the
same applies as to most things, you get what you pay for. I would always
go for the best brand that I could afford. I picked a Samsung, but would
have bought Panasonic or Sony (the latter somewhat overpriced) if not. I
paid a little more for mine by buying from John Lewis, but got a five
year guarantee for free, making it more or less the same as the cheaper
suppliers with a guarantee added. The satellite PVR is a Humax Foxsat.


Regards,

Bob




John[_39_] July 25th 10 04:31 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
john hamilton wrote:
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set
repaired, and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the
sheer choice seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime
in the future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that
means we would benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to
take advantage of future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand
name are probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its
not worth paying extra for a Japanese name?

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of
reasonable quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would
prefer to keep the price down if possible. Many thanks for any
advice.


Panasonic from Richer Sounds



John[_39_] July 25th 10 04:31 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
john hamilton wrote:
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set
repaired, and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the
sheer choice seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime
in the future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that
means we would benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to
take advantage of future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand
name are probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its
not worth paying extra for a Japanese name?

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of
reasonable quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would
prefer to keep the price down if possible. Many thanks for any
advice.


Panasonic from Richer Sounds



tony sayer July 25th 10 04:32 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
In article , geoff
scribeth thus
In message
,
js.b1 writes
CRT TVs were invariably repairable.
A CRT TV has a lot of discrete components. A component failure did not
write-off the TV despite a bit of labour involved particularly having
to resolder everything in sight.

It does in most cases - all the TV repair shops around here have gone.
Unless you know what you are doing, TV repair is becoming a thing of the
past



Don't think its knowing what your doing, its just Joe Publicke doesn't
want to pay anything to have anything repaired any longer...

--
Tony Sayer




Adrian[_3_] July 25th 10 04:35 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
Bob Henson wrote:


"David" wrote in message
:

"john hamilton" wrote in message
...
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set
repaired, and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the

sheer
choice seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in
the future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we
would benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take

advantage
of future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name
are probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not

worth
paying extra for a Japanese name?

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of
reasonable quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would

prefer to
keep the price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.



I have a Panasonic with Freesat HD built in, Panasonic always seem to be
"Best Buys" in reviews.
Personally would not buy a new TV without a Freesat HD or Freeview HD
built
in.


One problem with built in tuners is that, as far as I am aware, most of
those sets don't have a hard drive and recording facility built in, thus
necessitating another box as well. Similarly, if the tuner "breaks" for
any reason, you need to buy the whole new TV. Another problem is that if
(more likely when) there are new technological developments you have to
get a new TV set to upgrade, whereas a separate box is cheaper and
easier to change. Perhaps the best way at the moment is to have a TV set
with Freeview HD built in, and a separate Freesat box. I'd do it that
way as most new developments are likely to be available on satellite
first, and in most areas (unless you're in a very good terrestrial
reception area) the HD picture will most likely be better on satellite.
My set only has an ordinary terrestrial tuner built in (HD terrestrial
didn't exist when I bought it) but it makes a useful backup (and gives
you a few more channels) on the very rare occasions (exceptionally heavy
rain or snow) when satellite reception is not 100%.

Back to John's original question as to which brand of TV, I think the
same applies as to most things, you get what you pay for. I would always
go for the best brand that I could afford. I picked a Samsung, but would
have bought Panasonic or Sony (the latter somewhat overpriced) if not. I
paid a little more for mine by buying from John Lewis, but got a five
year guarantee for free, making it more or less the same as the cheaper
suppliers with a guarantee added. The satellite PVR is a Humax Foxsat.


Regards,

Bob



Having a built in tuner doesn't prevent you from having an external box,
or boxes.

--
Adrian

geoff July 25th 10 04:41 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
In message , Bob Henson
writes


"David" wrote in message
:

"john hamilton" wrote in message
...
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set
repaired, and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer
choice seems a bit daunting.


One problem with built in tuners is that, as far as I am aware, most of
those sets don't have a hard drive and recording facility built in,
thus necessitating another box as well. Similarly, if the tuner
"breaks" for any reason, you need to buy the whole new TV.


Most come with tuners built in nowadays


Back to John's original question as to which brand of TV, I think the
same applies as to most things, you get what you pay for. I would
always go for the best brand that I could afford. I picked a Samsung,
but would have bought Panasonic or Sony (the latter somewhat
overpriced) if not. I paid a little more for mine by buying from John
Lewis, but got a five year guarantee for free, making it more or less
the same as the cheaper suppliers with a guarantee added. The satellite
PVR is a Humax Foxsat.


I think in these throwaway days, where greenwash is paid no more than
lipservice, very little is economically repairable, unless it is a
really trivial problem

You might be surprised to know that even central heating boilers are
expected to only have a 5-7- year life now

So much for conserving resources

Don't buy too big if you are watching it in a small room

An important consideration is what inputs it has. If, for example, you
have only a SCART output from a video and your TV doesn't you would be a
bit buggered

Panasonic are I think good TVs, I have a Sharp, and while the picture is
good, I find it slow and it's response to the remote clumsy.




--
geoff

geoff July 25th 10 04:44 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
In message
,
mike writes
On Jul 25, 2:25*pm, "js.b1" wrote:

If you are used to CRT, no LCD is a perfect replacement


Given that, until a few years ago, we were all used to CRT, how come
so many have gone over to LCD and CRT are now impossible to buy new?


Life moves on

Have you tried buying a camera that takes emulsion film lately, or an
IDE hard drive?


We still have a CRT. I hope it keeps going because all the LCDs I've
seen have been pretty poor in comparison.




--
geoff

griffin July 25th 10 04:46 PM

New televisions from China or Taiwan
 
On 25/07/2010 13:41, john hamilton wrote:
Have now given up on the idea of having our old crt television set repaired,
and am looking at the televisions listed in Argos etc, the sheer choice
seems a bit daunting.

We thought we would go for a new 40 or 42" LCD flat screen. Sometime in the
future we would get a FreeSat digital box, so I guess that means we would
benefit from the 1080p resolution spec on the set to take advantage of
future high definition broadcasts.

Am I right in thinking that most of these sets, whatever the brand name are
probably manufactured in China or Taiwan? If so I guess its not worth paying
extra for a Japanese name?

Grateful for any advice on what you might think is a good buy of reasonable
quality around at the moment, bearing in mind I would prefer to keep the
price down if possible. Many thanks for any advice.



looking for the 'made in' label can be like the bran tub. you just do
not know, and these days it can be anywhere at all. one thing though,
each manufacturer, whilst using foreign labour and expertise to
assemble, have their own specifications. chances are that the components
all come from the same source. I should think that it is as it always
has been with these things, each Brand has it's own quality, some better
than others


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