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Petert May 12th 10 06:22 PM

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One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-low-brow.html
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Peter Duncanson May 12th 10 07:43 PM

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-low-brow.html


The spokesman said:...
"The nine channels are BBC One, BBC Two, ITV1, Channel 4, Channel 5,
Sky Sports News, ITV3, The Music Factory (TMF) and Film 4.

Someone should tell the spokeman that TMF is now VIVA.

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Brian G May 12th 10 09:02 PM

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Well I can only agree with the prisoner. Has anyone watched this new
Prisoner? I saw/well heard/ a clip. No thanks I thought.

Bring back cardboard sets and good fun TV. Most of the shows seem to be
produced to aid hyper ventilation or bboredom these days.

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Brian G May 12th 10 09:05 PM

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He probably also thinks Teachers TV is all about booze.

Seems an odd selection. Is there any reason why hmp don't just give them
all the freeview stuff and have done with it?


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On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert
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One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-low-brow.html

The spokesman said:...
"The nine channels are BBC One, BBC Two, ITV1, Channel 4, Channel 5,
Sky Sports News, ITV3, The Music Factory (TMF) and Film 4.

Someone should tell the spokeman that TMF is now VIVA.

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tony sayer May 12th 10 10:21 PM

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In article , Petert
scribeth thus
One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-TV-channels-
are-too-low-brow.html


Let the sod rot after what he was sent there for:((...
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Laurence Taylor May 12th 10 11:56 PM

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Petert wrote:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-low-brow.html


Interesting to note that even the Torygraph will reprint items from
other publications without attribution.

Channels will be made available at the discretion of the governor. It
would seem likely that once the kit is installed, changing channels
will be a simple process, one that even a prison officer could do.

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Steve Terry[_2_] May 13th 10 02:47 AM

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"Brian G" wrote in message
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He probably also thinks Teachers TV is all about booze.

Seems an odd selection. Is there any reason why hmp don't just give them
all the freeview stuff and have done with it? Brian


Many prisoners used to, then HMP did a dodgy contract with
a company to provide limited cable.
Many prisoners have complained about the loss of freeview

The authorities must have learnt from the Chinese about controlling
broadcasting, and it's a lesson in proper contract corruption,
in that most of the best criminals do it with a pen.

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[email protected] May 13th 10 03:21 AM

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On May 12, 5:22*pm, Petert wrote:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-complains-TV-...
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Oh how I wish I could tell you all the story behind this. It's almost
incredible.

Bill

jamie powell May 13th 10 04:29 AM

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"Racist Pikey Gob****e" wrote in message
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On May 12, 5:22 pm, Petert wrote:
One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-complains-TV-...
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Oh how I wish I could tell you all the story behind this. It's almost
incredible.


I sense another made-up 'Bill Wright Bull**** Story' (TM) coming up, but he
wants one of you cretins to beg for it first.
In reality of course, if Bill's ever set foot in a prison, it'll have been as an
inmate.

He probably lost his chance of parole after breaking the telly.



Mark Opolo May 13th 10 07:33 AM

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"jamie powell" wrote in message
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"Racist Pikey Gob****e" wrote in message
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On May 12, 5:22 pm, Petert wrote:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-complains-TV-...
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Peter


Oh how I wish I could tell you all the story behind this. It's almost
incredible.


I sense another made-up 'Bill Wright Bull**** Story' (TM) coming up, but
he wants one of you cretins to beg for it first.
In reality of course, if Bill's ever set foot in a prison, it'll have been
as an inmate.

He probably lost his chance of parole after breaking the telly.



yes, he likes those old smoke
blowers..........fffffuuufffffffffff.......oooohhh hhhhhhhh nice.



Peter[_10_] May 13th 10 10:01 AM

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On Thu, 13 May 2010 03:29:25 +0100, "jamie powell"
wrote:



I sense another made-up 'Bill Wright Bull**** Story' (TM) coming up, but he
wants one of you cretins to beg for it first.
In reality of course, if Bill's ever set foot in a prison, it'll have been as an
inmate.

He probably lost his chance of parole after breaking the telly.


I'd forgotten to kiullfile you on this PC - thanks for reminding me
what an arsewipe you are
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Paul D.Smith[_2_] May 13th 10 10:43 AM

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Oh how I wish I could tell you all the story behind this. It's almost
incredible.


The question is, which would have been cheaper to provide, a Freeview box
per cell or whatever is being used to carefully provide just a select set of
channels?

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital
anyway otherwise in a couple of years time there will be no TV capable of
receiving them. Or, there has to be another box in each cell not unlike
say, oh, a Freeview STB.

Paul DS.


Peter[_10_] May 13th 10 11:05 AM

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On Thu, 13 May 2010 09:43:20 +0100, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote:

Oh how I wish I could tell you all the story behind this. It's almost
incredible.


The question is, which would have been cheaper to provide, a Freeview box
per cell or whatever is being used to carefully provide just a select set of
channels?

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital
anyway otherwise in a couple of years time there will be no TV capable of
receiving them. Or, there has to be another box in each cell not unlike
say, oh, a Freeview STB.

Paul DS.


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital. It would give the prison authorities the
ability to control exactly what is delivered to the cells - possibly
for security or discipline reasons - someone will doubtless be aqlong
to correct any of the above should it be necessary :-)
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Paul D.Smith[_2_] May 13th 10 11:50 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
The question is, which would have been cheaper to provide, a Freeview box
per cell or whatever is being used to carefully provide just a select set
of
channels?

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital
anyway otherwise in a couple of years time there will be no TV capable of
receiving them. Or, there has to be another box in each cell not unlike
say, oh, a Freeview STB.

Paul DS.


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital. It would give the prison authorities the
ability to control exactly what is delivered to the cells - possibly
for security or discipline reasons - someone will doubtless be aqlong
to correct any of the above should it be necessary :-)


A reasonable comment but for costs sake, the prison will not want specialist
hardware. This means regular TVs and very soon regular TVs will not be able
to receive analogue so a sensible person would plan for having to use
digital TV.

Of course the words "reasonable" and "sensible" might not apply here since
this is a publicly funded contract and probably negotiated by people who
haven't a clue what they're buying.

Paul DS


Ivan[_2_] May 13th 10 12:27 PM

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"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
...
The question is, which would have been cheaper to provide, a Freeview box
per cell or whatever is being used to carefully provide just a select set
of
channels?

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital
anyway otherwise in a couple of years time there will be no TV capable of
receiving them. Or, there has to be another box in each cell not unlike
say, oh, a Freeview STB.

Paul DS.


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital. It would give the prison authorities the
ability to control exactly what is delivered to the cells - possibly
for security or discipline reasons - someone will doubtless be aqlong
to correct any of the above should it be necessary :-)


A reasonable comment but for costs sake, the prison will not want
specialist hardware. This means regular TVs and very soon regular TVs
will not be able to receive analogue so a sensible person would plan for
having to use digital TV.


Surely all that would be required is digital receivers with the ability to
'securely' lockout undesired channels, as with parental control?

Of course the words "reasonable" and "sensible" might not apply here since
this is a publicly funded contract and probably negotiated by people who
haven't a clue what they're buying.

Paul DS



Paul D.Smith[_2_] May 13th 10 12:43 PM

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Surely all that would be required is digital receivers with the ability to
'securely' lockout undesired channels, as with parental control?


Remember that this system will probably be in place for donkeys years. You
might be able to source all-similar sets that do this now, and in a
consistent way, but in 10 years time you will have many different models and
ways of configuring this as you've replaced borken and/or faulty sets with
new ones.

Far better to have a system with minimal smarts in the cells but based on
standard technology if possible.

Paul DS.


[email protected] May 13th 10 01:15 PM

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On 13 May, 10:50, "Paul D.Smith" wrote:
The question is, which would have been cheaper to provide, a Freeview box
per cell or whatever is being used to carefully provide just a select set
of
channels?


Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital
anyway otherwise in a couple of years time there will be no TV capable of
receiving them. *Or, there has to be another box in each cell not unlike
say, oh, a Freeview STB.


Paul DS.


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital. It would give the prison authorities the
ability to control exactly what is delivered to the cells - possibly
for security or discipline reasons - someone will doubtless be aqlong
to correct any of the above should it be necessary :-)


A reasonable comment but for costs sake, the prison will not want specialist
hardware. *This means regular TVs and very soon regular TVs will not be able
to receive analogue so a sensible person would plan for having to use
digital TV.


"Very soon"? Doubt that. _Some_ TV manufacturers may remove the
functionality quite soon, though it'll probably be in the chipsets for
years to come, and many TVs will still expose that functionality.

Given the complexity of DVB-T2 decoding (soon to be standard), the
silicon real estate of analogue decoding is probably unnoticeable in
comparison.

Cheers,
David.

Albert Ross May 13th 10 06:08 PM

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 20:02:27 +0100, "Brian G"
wrote:

Well I can only agree with the prisoner. Has anyone watched this new
Prisoner? I saw/well heard/ a clip. No thanks I thought.


I missed the first episode because it looked from Digiguide that it
was being repeated but the repeat turned out to be the original
Patrick McGoohan series, also being repeated.

I watched the second epsiode and was glad I'd missed the first.

Roger R[_3_] May 13th 10 10:16 PM

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"Peter" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 03:29:25 +0100, "jamie powell"
wrote:



I sense another made-up 'Bill Wright Bull**** Story' (TM) coming up, but
he
wants one of you cretins to beg for it first.
In reality of course, if Bill's ever set foot in a prison, it'll have been
as an
inmate.

He probably lost his chance of parole after breaking the telly.


I'd forgotten to kiullfile you on this PC - thanks for reminding me
what an arsewipe you are



You don't expect anyone to believe, even for an instant, that you forgot
having your real personality exposed.

Roger R



Petert May 13th 10 10:48 PM

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On Thu, 13 May 2010 21:16:26 +0100, "Roger R"
wrote:




You don't expect anyone to believe, even for an instant, that you forgot
having your real personality exposed.

Roger R


Do let me know when the above is available in English
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Andy Burns[_7_] May 14th 10 10:12 PM

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Peter wrote:

wrote:

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital.


One institution I'm familiar with (not designated a prison, but with
prison level of security) receives and decodes the digital muxes, then
multicasts the chosen program streams over ethernet to the TVs.


J G Miller[_4_] May 14th 10 10:15 PM

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:

One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. ;)

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg

J G Miller[_4_] May 14th 10 10:17 PM

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On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:15:09 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:

One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. ;)

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg


And a close up of the bracket.

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial3.jpg

These are not my photographs but came across them on another
well known web site.


Graham.[_2_] May 15th 10 12:34 AM

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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:

One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. ;)

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg


Clearly there are some issues here, but why did you chose this installation?
I mean, in the great scheme of things, is it so bad?

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[email protected] May 15th 10 12:37 AM

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On May 14, 9:17*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:15:09 +0000, J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:


One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. *;)


http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg


And a close up of the bracket.

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial3.jpg


Sigh... Sometimes I feel so dismal about my trade.

The odd thing is, when you talk to the guys who do things like that
they are often not cowboys, in the sense of not being people who do a
deliberately bad job for the sake of economy and speed. They are
almost conscientious, in that they really feel that they do a half-
decent job. The problem seems to be that they have never had any
training, and have simply fallen into bad habits, doing the job the
way they have always done it. They lack the intelligence to look at
other people's work and learn from it.

Bill

J G Miller[_4_] May 15th 10 12:48 AM

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On Friday, May 14th, 2010 at 23:34:22h +0100, Graham. wrote:

Clearly there are some issues here, but why did you chose this
installation?


Only because it is topical and undergoing current discussion.

The resident who is took the photographs is complaining that
the installation is making creaking noise which is keeping him
awake at night.

http://www.digitalspy.co.UK/forums/showthread.php?t=1261058

I mean, in the great scheme of things, is it so bad?


It is bad if it is keeping him awake and liable to come
crashing down.

And having three antennas, decreasing in size down the pole,
all pointed at the same transmitter, and positioned too
close together just does not make sense even to a
non-professional observer.

[email protected] May 15th 10 01:03 AM

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On May 14, 11:48*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, May 14th, 2010 at 23:34:22h +0100, Graham. wrote:
Clearly there are some issues here, but why did you chose this
installation?


Only because it is topical and undergoing current discussion.

The resident who is took the photographs is complaining that
the installation is making creaking noise which is keeping him
awake at night.


Rubbing on the platic gutter I suppose.


http://www.digitalspy.co.UK/forums/showthread.php?t=1261058

I mean, in the great scheme of things, is it so bad?


No, but as I implied in an earlier post it is representitive of so
much of the work that's done.

And having three antennas, decreasing in size down the pole,
all pointed at the same transmitter, and positioned too
close together just does not make sense even to a
non-professional observer.


The lower two aerials could be 'squatters'. We often get these on the
masts of our communal system aerials. We have to remove them for
insurance reasons. The resident is usually very angry -- with us, not
the cowboy installer.

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.

Bill

Doctor D May 15th 10 10:20 AM

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The lower two aerials could be 'squatters'. We often get these on the
masts of our communal system aerials. We have to remove them for
insurance reasons. The resident is usually very angry -- with us, not
the cowboy installer.

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.

Bill


Loving the loop left for the masthead amplifier on the cheap bracket shot.
Obviously he couldn't talk the customer into having one!
Some great "earthing" examples too!


Mark Carver May 15th 10 10:40 AM

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wrote:

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.

I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the house.

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[email protected] May 15th 10 01:39 PM

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On May 15, 9:40*am, Mark Carver wrote:
wrote:
Anyway, take a look at


http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...Day%202/recent...


Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.

I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the house.


It's a heartbreak I suffer on frequent occasions. Here are some
examples:

I installed a large aerial for a communal system in January. It was in
a very poor reception area so the aerial performance was critical.
Driving past a few weeks later I saw that a vertical glass fibre
colinear had been clamped to the mast, with the radiating element
inbetween the directors of my aerial. So far I have not been called
back.

At another communal system in deepest Derbyshire I fitted a four
element DAB aerial and an FM aerial. These were on the main aerial
mast below the UHF aerial. They were important because indoor radio
reception in that area is very poor indeed. Whilst on site to fix a
faulty multiswitch I saw that the DAB aerial had been slackened off
and swung through 180deg, in order to make room for a B & Q TV aerial.
This had a white cable running across the flat roof to the lift motor
room. When I enquired of the caretaker he became extremely shifty. It
transpired that he had set up a cozy nest in there, complete with
electric fire, easy chair, kettle, and TV set. On the wall near his TV
set was an enclosure that contained two multiswitches, with a total of
six spare outputs.

There's a 1960s Swiss-style bungalow near here that has a gable end
overlooking the main road. The resident wanted the aerial on that
gable because it looked better from the front of his house. The roof
overhang was about a metre, so big wall brackets were called for, but
when the installer (not me) explained this to the customer he said he
didn't like the idea of the big brackets, so could the aerial be fixed
to the wooden fascia. This was done, with a warning that if it caused
creaking noises or otherwise mishehaved it was on his own head (not
literally, we hope). Anyway, the installer told me this tale and I
noticed the aerial when I drove past. It didn't look very secure.
Then, a couple of years later, a bloke rung me up and said he wanted
to buy a TV aerial and an FM aerial, and some cable. I don't really
like this sort of thing (we aren't retailers) but in the end I sold
him a four element FM aerial and an 18 element TV aerial. The next
time I drove past the bungalow the two aerials were clamped to the
mast of the original TV aerial. The whole thing looked vary
precarious.However, a few weeks later I noticed that the FM aerial had
gone; probably having been moved into the loft.

Some Polish tenants put an 85cm dish half way up the mast of my new
communal TV aerial, so they could get Polsat. This became as issue
when the cable tapped on another tenant's window.

At a local residential hospital I found that the poor DTT reception on
120 TV sets was caused in part by two extra downleads having been
taped into the aerial cable, with no splitter. These ran to two
patient waiting areas. Works Dept were responsible.

Bill

Petert May 15th 10 04:35 PM

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On Fri, 14 May 2010 21:12:33 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Peter wrote:

wrote:

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital.


One institution I'm familiar with (not designated a prison, but with
prison level of security)


Eton?
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Doctor D May 15th 10 07:00 PM

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.

I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the
house.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous
owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier on a very short
mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight down
the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was
taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join, directed the aerial
at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and
bashed another cable into the connector which runs across the roof and into
the kitchen through the extractor fan.

It irritates me every time I go there, but we don't know them well enough to
mention it yet!


Petert May 15th 10 07:58 PM

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On Sat, 15 May 2010 18:00:44 +0100, "Doctor D"
wrote:


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous
owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier on a very short
mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight down
the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was
taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join, directed the aerial
at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and
bashed another cable into the connector which runs across the roof and into
the kitchen through the extractor fan.



I take it that the extractor fan isn't working?

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Peter

J G Miller[_4_] May 15th 10 08:27 PM

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On Saturday, May 15th, 2010 at 18:00:44h +0100, Doctor D wrote:

directed the aerial at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal
but local interference problems)


Will those local interference problems still be significant
now that transmissions are digital only?

Abergavenny -- ch42 ch45 ch49
Pennorth -- ch23 ch26 ch29

Doctor D May 15th 10 08:29 PM

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"Petert" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 May 2010 18:00:44 +0100, "Doctor D"
wrote:


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous
owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier on a very
short
mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight
down
the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was
taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join, directed the
aerial
at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and
bashed another cable into the connector which runs across the roof and
into
the kitchen through the extractor fan.



I take it that the extractor fan isn't working?

--
Cheers

Peter


It certainly used to. It's a very old square Expelair and quite likely no
longer works.


[email protected] May 15th 10 09:39 PM

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On May 15, 6:00*pm, "Doctor D" wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

...





wrote:


Anyway, take a look at


http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...Day%202/recent....


Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.


I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the
house.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.


www.paras.org.uk


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous
owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier on a very short
mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight down
the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was
taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join, directed the aerial
at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and
bashed another cable into the connector which runs across the roof and into
the kitchen through the extractor fan.

In this manner?

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/033.shtml

Bill

Graham.[_2_] May 16th 10 01:16 PM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 


" wrote in message
...
On May 15, 6:00 pm, "Doctor D" wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

...





wrote:


Anyway, take a look at


http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...Day%202/recent...


Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.


I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the
house.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.


www.paras.org.uk


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous
owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier on a very short
mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight down
the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was
taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join, directed the aerial
at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and
bashed another cable into the connector which runs across the roof and into
the kitchen through the extractor fan.

In this manner?

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/033.shtml

Bill



At least they used white coax.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham.[_2_] May 16th 10 01:32 PM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 


Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.

I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new
owners of the house.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier
on a very short mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight down the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join,
directed the aerial at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and bashed another cable into the
connector which runs across the roof and into the kitchen through the extractor fan.

It irritates me every time I go there, but we don't know them well enough to mention it yet!


Someone I know was an early adopter of DAB and spent a lot on a tuner and roof
aerial, the first one in his street.

It's still unique today in the whole area, because it's the only one that is horizontally polarised!

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Doctor D May 16th 10 10:20 PM

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"J G Miller" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, May 15th, 2010 at 18:00:44h +0100, Doctor D wrote:

directed the aerial at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal
but local interference problems)


Will those local interference problems still be significant
now that transmissions are digital only?

Abergavenny -- ch42 ch45 ch49
Pennorth -- ch23 ch26 ch29


No, that problem is solved. Never got to the bottom of the cause though.


Doctor D May 16th 10 10:21 PM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 


This has happened next door to my parents. Years ago, for the previous
owners I installed a group B aerial with masthead amplifier on a very
short
mast on a well spaced T&K (as it's very windy there) pointing straight
down
the valley to Abergavenny.

The newish owner has removed the masthead amplifier (I believe the PSU was
taken when the old owners moved out) taped up the join, directed the
aerial
at Pennorth (group A, stronger signal but local interference problems) and
bashed another cable into the connector which runs across the roof and
into
the kitchen through the extractor fan.


In this manner?

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/033.shtml

Bill

Yep, virtually identical.



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