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Andy Burns[_7_] May 14th 10 10:12 PM

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Peter wrote:

wrote:

Presumably, and to be future proof, the available channels are digital


Not necessarily, the headend in, say, the governors office would
recieve the digital TV channels, but the distribution to the cells
doesn't need to be digital.


One institution I'm familiar with (not designated a prison, but with
prison level of security) receives and decodes the digital muxes, then
multicasts the chosen program streams over ethernet to the TVs.


J G Miller[_4_] May 14th 10 10:15 PM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:

One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. ;)

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg

J G Miller[_4_] May 14th 10 10:17 PM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:15:09 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:

One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. ;)

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg


And a close up of the bracket.

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial3.jpg

These are not my photographs but came across them on another
well known web site.


Graham.[_2_] May 15th 10 12:34 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 


"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:

One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. ;)

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg


Clearly there are some issues here, but why did you chose this installation?
I mean, in the great scheme of things, is it so bad?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



[email protected] May 15th 10 12:37 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
On May 14, 9:17*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:15:09 +0000, J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 17:22:32 +0100, Petert wrote:


One for Bill - to comment on & to possibly work on!


And here is another one he may like to comment on. *;)


http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial1.jpg


And a close up of the bracket.

http://www.welsh3000s.co.UK/images/aerial3.jpg


Sigh... Sometimes I feel so dismal about my trade.

The odd thing is, when you talk to the guys who do things like that
they are often not cowboys, in the sense of not being people who do a
deliberately bad job for the sake of economy and speed. They are
almost conscientious, in that they really feel that they do a half-
decent job. The problem seems to be that they have never had any
training, and have simply fallen into bad habits, doing the job the
way they have always done it. They lack the intelligence to look at
other people's work and learn from it.

Bill

J G Miller[_4_] May 15th 10 12:48 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
On Friday, May 14th, 2010 at 23:34:22h +0100, Graham. wrote:

Clearly there are some issues here, but why did you chose this
installation?


Only because it is topical and undergoing current discussion.

The resident who is took the photographs is complaining that
the installation is making creaking noise which is keeping him
awake at night.

http://www.digitalspy.co.UK/forums/showthread.php?t=1261058

I mean, in the great scheme of things, is it so bad?


It is bad if it is keeping him awake and liable to come
crashing down.

And having three antennas, decreasing in size down the pole,
all pointed at the same transmitter, and positioned too
close together just does not make sense even to a
non-professional observer.

[email protected] May 15th 10 01:03 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
On May 14, 11:48*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, May 14th, 2010 at 23:34:22h +0100, Graham. wrote:
Clearly there are some issues here, but why did you chose this
installation?


Only because it is topical and undergoing current discussion.

The resident who is took the photographs is complaining that
the installation is making creaking noise which is keeping him
awake at night.


Rubbing on the platic gutter I suppose.


http://www.digitalspy.co.UK/forums/showthread.php?t=1261058

I mean, in the great scheme of things, is it so bad?


No, but as I implied in an earlier post it is representitive of so
much of the work that's done.

And having three antennas, decreasing in size down the pole,
all pointed at the same transmitter, and positioned too
close together just does not make sense even to a
non-professional observer.


The lower two aerials could be 'squatters'. We often get these on the
masts of our communal system aerials. We have to remove them for
insurance reasons. The resident is usually very angry -- with us, not
the cowboy installer.

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.

Bill

Doctor D May 15th 10 10:20 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 


The lower two aerials could be 'squatters'. We often get these on the
masts of our communal system aerials. We have to remove them for
insurance reasons. The resident is usually very angry -- with us, not
the cowboy installer.

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.

Bill


Loving the loop left for the masthead amplifier on the cheap bracket shot.
Obviously he couldn't talk the customer into having one!
Some great "earthing" examples too!


Mark Carver May 15th 10 10:40 AM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
wrote:

Anyway, take a look at

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ew=slideshow#/

Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.

I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the house.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

[email protected] May 15th 10 01:39 PM

One for Bill - to comment on & to work on!
 
On May 15, 9:40*am, Mark Carver wrote:
wrote:
Anyway, take a look at


http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...Day%202/recent...


Comments welcome.


I like the one with 4 feeds paralleled off the loft aerial.

I was heartbroken to see an aerial I installed about 12 years ago for a
friend, has suffered a similar bodged up fate by the new owners of the house.


It's a heartbreak I suffer on frequent occasions. Here are some
examples:

I installed a large aerial for a communal system in January. It was in
a very poor reception area so the aerial performance was critical.
Driving past a few weeks later I saw that a vertical glass fibre
colinear had been clamped to the mast, with the radiating element
inbetween the directors of my aerial. So far I have not been called
back.

At another communal system in deepest Derbyshire I fitted a four
element DAB aerial and an FM aerial. These were on the main aerial
mast below the UHF aerial. They were important because indoor radio
reception in that area is very poor indeed. Whilst on site to fix a
faulty multiswitch I saw that the DAB aerial had been slackened off
and swung through 180deg, in order to make room for a B & Q TV aerial.
This had a white cable running across the flat roof to the lift motor
room. When I enquired of the caretaker he became extremely shifty. It
transpired that he had set up a cozy nest in there, complete with
electric fire, easy chair, kettle, and TV set. On the wall near his TV
set was an enclosure that contained two multiswitches, with a total of
six spare outputs.

There's a 1960s Swiss-style bungalow near here that has a gable end
overlooking the main road. The resident wanted the aerial on that
gable because it looked better from the front of his house. The roof
overhang was about a metre, so big wall brackets were called for, but
when the installer (not me) explained this to the customer he said he
didn't like the idea of the big brackets, so could the aerial be fixed
to the wooden fascia. This was done, with a warning that if it caused
creaking noises or otherwise mishehaved it was on his own head (not
literally, we hope). Anyway, the installer told me this tale and I
noticed the aerial when I drove past. It didn't look very secure.
Then, a couple of years later, a bloke rung me up and said he wanted
to buy a TV aerial and an FM aerial, and some cable. I don't really
like this sort of thing (we aren't retailers) but in the end I sold
him a four element FM aerial and an 18 element TV aerial. The next
time I drove past the bungalow the two aerials were clamped to the
mast of the original TV aerial. The whole thing looked vary
precarious.However, a few weeks later I noticed that the FM aerial had
gone; probably having been moved into the loft.

Some Polish tenants put an 85cm dish half way up the mast of my new
communal TV aerial, so they could get Polsat. This became as issue
when the cable tapped on another tenant's window.

At a local residential hospital I found that the poor DTT reception on
120 TV sets was caused in part by two extra downleads having been
taped into the aerial cable, with no splitter. These ran to two
patient waiting areas. Works Dept were responsible.

Bill


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