"Larry Bud" wrote in message
om...
God almighty. Don't you people read the freakin' archives? I'm so
sick of this topic.

Of course not. That's why there are subjects so you can pick and choose.
You dufus.

"jeff b" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s52...

Not only is virtally all sports on ESPN HD low-def, the
ones that aren't are in med-def , aka 720 scanlines. When I saw
this format for the first time on Sunday night baseball,
I was taken back by how bad it looked compared to
CBS football games last fall (1080 scanlines.)
At first, I thought the game was being shown in better-than-average
SDTV. Then I found that it was passing as HDTV,
which explained everything.

Yes, if you have a 1080i display you can only see half the data in the 720p
signal so it doesn't look so hot. But 720p isn't "medium definition" by any
means.

no, this is not correct...their true hd programming IS in 16:9 and is NOT
stretched...when it's stretched, it's not hd


"BillJ" wrote in message
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If you're watching in 16:9 aspect, even their true HD content is crap.
They
produce it in 4:3 and stretch it, which degrades the picture. The HD
picture
okay if I watch in 4:3 but isn't widescreen a big part of the HDTV
experience?
ESPN gives a lame excuse about needing to do 4:3 so their score ticker
will show
properly. Somehow CBS manages to produce a true 16:9 HDTV picture as well
as
their 4:3 SDTV picture complete with score ticker. The truth is that
Eisner and
company don't give a damn and won't spend the money to do it right. They
figure
viewers are so addicted to sports that they'll just pay more each year
regardless of how crappy the picture is.

God almighty. Don't you people read the freakin' archives? I'm so
sick of this topic.

Of course not. That's why there are subjects so you can pick and choose.
You dufus.

When the subject is "More ESPN Talk", it could be about a myriad of
issues, not the old, worn out, "stretch" issue.

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
om...
: God almighty. Don't you people read the freakin' archives? I'm
so
: sick of this topic.
:
: Of course not. That's why there are subjects so you can pick and
choose.
: You dufus.
:
: When the subject is "More ESPN Talk", it could be about a myriad of
: issues, not the old, worn out, "stretch" issue.

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How can it be "worn out" when they STILL stretch!

On 2004-05-25 09:43:41 -0700, "Richard C." post-age @spamcop.net said:

How can it be "worn out" when they STILL stretch!


Aren't they moving SportsCenter to HD in June?

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Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 2004-05-25 09:43:41 -0700, "Richard C." post-age @spamcop.net
said:

How can it be "worn out" when they STILL stretch!

Aren't they moving SportsCenter to HD in June?

According to their website the change takes place on June 7th.
Chip

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"Seth Mattinen" wrote in message
news:2004052515225116807%[email protected] ..
: On 2004-05-25 09:43:41 -0700, "Richard C." post-age @spamcop.net
said:
:
: How can it be "worn out" when they STILL stretch!
:
:
: Aren't they moving SportsCenter to HD in June?
:
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And what does that have to do with their STRETCHING of 4:3 material.
Are they going 100% 16:9 HD sources? I doubt it.

"Richard C." post-age @spamcop.net wrote in message
. ..
"Seth Mattinen" wrote in message
news:2004052515225116807%[email protected] ..

And what does that have to do with their STRETCHING of 4:3 material.
Are they going 100% 16:9 HD sources? I doubt it.

I think they will have to at some point. Their crappy stretched picture
will look so bad against the other HD programming, that any self respecting
cable sports TV pioneer will become embarrassed at some point. The baseball
on the inHD channels on Comcast looks great and then you go to ESPN and it
looks like a funhouse mirror. Unwatchable.

"Mike" wrote in message
.. .
:
: "Richard C." post-age @spamcop.net wrote in message
: . ..
: "Seth Mattinen" wrote in message
: news:2004052515225116807%[email protected] ..
:
: And what does that have to do with their STRETCHING of 4:3 material.
: Are they going 100% 16:9 HD sources? I doubt it.
:
: I think they will have to at some point. Their crappy stretched
picture
: will look so bad against the other HD programming, that any self
respecting
: cable sports TV pioneer will become embarrassed at some point. The
baseball
: on the inHD channels on Comcast looks great and then you go to ESPN
and it
: looks like a funhouse mirror. Unwatchable.
:
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They have ignored all complaints so far.
Why would they stop?