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On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:03:33 +0100, Roderick Stewart
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In article , Peter Chant wrote:
Interesting - I was thinking along the lines of the monitor I have in front
of me right now. On previous PC at least the difference between DVI and VGA
was night and day. Though I have seen reasonable VGA in other places.

In my experience the quality differences between video sources have much more
to do with the quality of the original material than anything else. All other
things being equal, if you can see any difference between DVI and VGA, there is
something wrong with one of them.

It happens that I have a situation where all other things can be made equal,
because the graphics card in my PC has both types of output and my 24"
widescreen monitor has both types of input, so I can connect both and switch
between them. Despite most of my working lifetime in television having been
concerned in some way with the assessment of picture quality, so that I am
therefore reasonably sure what to look for, I cannot see any difference between
them whatsoever.

This may depend on the circuitry inside both pieces of kit (and other
factors), I did the same experiment with my (now vintage) Iiyama CRT,
and while the difference was miniscule it was just visible.

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:12:02 +0100, Albert Ross
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:00:31 +0100, Peter Chant
wrote:

Norman Wells wrote:

I'm inclined to say if they can use a VCR they'll be able to handle any
digital recorder. If they can't, though, the best solution is to have
another child. In 6 years time, he'll be able to do all that for them,
and will probably give them 10 good years of continuous use.

Two points:

1. They can use a VCR as far as changing channels, hitting record and
play. Don't think they've ever programmed the timer.

2. Since I popped out nearly 39 years ago I think they'd make the medical
press if they had another one!

They're waiting for the Grandkids to do it for them

It's always bewildered me that people (like my parents) have no
difficulty driving, operating fairly sophisticated cameras, etc. but
their brains fall over when faced with a VCR

I've noticed with people of various ages that if they approach something
with the firm conviction that it will be too abstruse and complicated
for them to understand, it will be. That prior belief acts as a serious
obstacle to learning and comprehension.

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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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Albert Ross wrote:

factors), I did the same experiment with my (now vintage) Iiyama CRT,
and while the difference was miniscule it was just visible.

Whenever I have noticed a problem with VGA connections it has been due
to overlong, cheap-n-nasty and/or poorly positioned cables, though I
don't know how well VGA would cope with today's higher resolutions that
DVI/HDMI do well.

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In article , Peter Duncanson
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:12:02 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:


It's always bewildered me that people (like my parents) have no
difficulty driving, operating fairly sophisticated cameras, etc. but
their brains fall over when faced with a VCR

I've noticed with people of various ages that if they approach something
with the firm conviction that it will be too abstruse and complicated
for them to understand, it will be. That prior belief acts as a serious
obstacle to learning and comprehension.

I've also noticed that amongst students, etc. In particular often
encountered it with students who are presented with learning a skill like
being able to solder circuits, test them, etc, rather that treat
engineering as if it were a theoretical topic best viewed via Mathcad,
Labview, or Spice. :-)

I've also noticed that when someone is totally convinced that their
"understanding" is already complete and totally right (but isn't) that also
acts as an obstacle. As is the fear some seem to have of admitting that
they might have misunderstood. In part I guess this is due to the way some
schools and employement gives people the idea that is "bad" to "make a
mistake" or "admit an error" as you will be marked down or not promoted,
etc.

The reality, though, is that learning means having to always accept that
you still don't fully understand and be prepared to discuss with others
without becoming aggressive and taking any questioning or doubt as some
sort of "personal affront" or "attack". An to try things at the risk of
initially getting into a muddle and looking foolish.

Hence I realised some years ago that it can be a waste of time trying to
discuss things with some people. Whereas with others who behave more openly
and considerately you can both learn and expand your understanding.

Alas many Usenet groups on technical topics like computing, etc, tend to
enhance this due to the resident trolls and those who want to belittle
others for knowing less and asking 'daft questions'.

Slainte,

Jim

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On 18/04/2010 10:45, Peter Chant wrote:
Kellerman"kellermansnot wrote:

On 16/04/2010 18:19, Peter Chant wrote:

Now if you want an easy to operate recorder forget the DVD variants.
Horrendously complicated and in my experience not reliable enough.
You have two choices:
1. Sky+ HD it has a big clear remote control, clear EPG, simple to
operate. 1. Humax 9300T PVR. clear uncluttered epg, series link, press OK
to record in the future, press the red record button to record now.
The Humax costs £180 ish (one of payment), Sky+ £120 a year minimum.
I went for the Humax and I'm very pleased with it.
Don't buy the Thomson "top up tv" box that currently available cheap.
It's poo and unreliable even tho' it's mega cheap.
Dave

Thanks. That Humax or its little brother (9150?) seem to be generally
recommended.

How does you comment on "record now" tie in with that of another poster who
said there was an issue with recording programmes that had already started -
ie you could not? Don't mind if the beginning is missing - ie stuff already
in the past.

Pete

No issue in recording programs already started, provided you don't mind
missing what has already gone of course!
Just press the red record button and it records from now to the end of
the program. Easy!
Dave
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...

............. As is the fear some seem to have of admitting that
they might have misunderstood. In part I guess this is due to the way some
schools and employement gives people the idea that is "bad" to "make a
mistake" or "admit an error"..........

This is one of life's lessons that I appreciate most of all, and I must have
been into my late thirties before it really sunk in.

There is a tremendous liberation that comes from being able to say "I'm
sorry, I was wrong about that", or "I thought I knew how that worked, but I
didn't after all", or "I've just made a dreadful mistake", etc. You
actually GAIN the respect of other people, and the complete absence of
defensiveness opens your own mind to learning how to do it properly.

The reality, though, is that learning means having to always accept that
you still don't fully understand and be prepared to discuss with others
without becoming aggressive and taking any questioning or doubt as some
sort of "personal affront" or "attack".

Completely agree.

Further to that, as I've got older I've learned that there is ALWAYS more to
learn on any topic, no matter how much of an expert you think you are. And
in virtually all topics - including science - there is always more than one
legitimate point of view, or interpretation of the evidence.

In fact, although I continue to learn voraciously, the older I get the less
I know (seriously). And all my "black and white" facts and opinions have
shaded into subtle nuances of grey, which are themselves fluid. It's
actually a wonderful feeling.

Hence I realised some years ago that it can be a waste of time trying to
discuss things with some people. Whereas with others who behave more
openly
and considerately you can both learn and expand your understanding.

Yes - people must be ready to accept that they may have misunderstood
something; that they don't know something they thought they did; that the
other guy may well have a good point; that other people might shine light on
a topic from another angle. They must refrain from mocking and ridicule
when someone acknowledges a mistake. Only when they can do that are they
ready to engage in discussions like we get here; to contribute to them and
benefit from them.

Alas many Usenet groups on technical topics like computing, etc, tend to
enhance this due to the resident trolls and those who want to belittle
others for knowing less and asking 'daft questions'.

It seems to be related to immaturity. Usually just being young, but I do
know of some individuals who "got stuck" as a stroppy teenager, despite
being years or even decades older.

SteveT

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:47:44 +0100, Kellerman wrote:

No issue in recording programs already started, provided you don't mind
missing what has already gone of course!

But why do that when you can record it in its entirety from
ITV2+1, ITV3+1, ITV4+1, C4+1, E4+1, More4+1, Film4+1, Davejavu,
BET+1, CBS Reality+1, FoodNetwork+1, Movies4Men+1, Movies4Men2+1,
JML Cookshop+1, PopGirl+1, TinyPop+1, TravelChannel+1, ZoneHorror+1,
an hour later, or at regular intervals on BBC-3 or BBC-4 or BBC-HD
at some other time? ;)

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Max Demian wrote:


Yes, if you tune into a programme and press Record it will record the
current programme up to the end of the scheduled time. (You can extend the
end time in blocks of 10 minutes to allow for late finishing, but your
parents might find this a bit fiddly.) Having done this, you can change
the Humax to a different channel and the recording will continue. You
can't set it to record a channel continuously over more than one
programme.

Thank you - that is good to know.


I really think you will have to persuade your parents to learn how to set
recordings from the EPG, whatever recording device you choose.


Yes. Probably fine with my mother. I suspect series link will go a long
way to sorting it out.

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In article , Andy Burns
wrote:
Whenever I have noticed a problem with VGA connections it has been due
to overlong, cheap-n-nasty and/or poorly positioned cables, though I
don't know how well VGA would cope with today's higher resolutions that
DVI/HDMI do well.

I have tried a 10 metre VGA cable between a PC and a 46" TV display and
there was absolutely no visible sign of ringing, ghosting, streaking or
softening of vertical edges.

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Max Demian wrote:

See my other reply.


Found it. THank you.

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