In article , "Dave C."
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Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.

You forgot the most profitable step: charge more for receiving it.

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In article , "Dave C."
wrote:

Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.

You forgot the most profitable step: charge more for receiving it.

I didn't forget it, it's already been done, multiple times. I was just
suggesting a new way for the networks to make money, something they haven't
tried YET. :) -Dave

Oh, well, you know what I think your "thought process" is incredible. Its
ok for a station to continually post a logo on my TV set which can cause
burn in. OH, and yes I have adjusted the controls, but who in gave them the
right to do that? and why don't they do in their other channels?....Maybe
you shouldn't just follow the corporate world in lock step and maybe you
should challenge them a bit just because they exert their might to cram
something down our throats because they have the power.

Enjoy your logos and all the other stuff the clutters up the HD screen.
After all one only buys the HD screen to enjoy the picture, which, by the
way, the broadcasters are all more than too happy to screw it. But don't
question it...cus...well....that's the corp. way...and they know best...yeah
right!....

Mango


"Larry Bud" wrote in message
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Gary, I disagree. If Mcdonalds was putting a food addivte that would
hurt
100% of the people...you bet they could be sued. If a tv station is
broadcasting a banner that can be shown to burn in 100% of the tv
sets...you
dont think they are liable for damage?....I would think they would be
and I
think that it could be proven, easily in a court of law.

No, of course they're not liable. They are within the specs of the
ATSC or NTSC broadcasting specs. If you're too stupid to change the
channel, turn the brightness down, or turn the TV off, that's your
problem. For all we know, you have your PVR on pause with the
brightness and contrasts cranked up for 24 hours a day.

The thought process by people like you in this country is incredible.
You're TOLD (most likely in your TV manual) by the manufacturer of the
TV and by people on this newsgroup that a problem might exist, and the
FIRST thing you think of it blaming it on someone else.


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In article , "Dave C."
wrote:

wrote in message
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In article , "Dave C."
wrote:

Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.

You forgot the most profitable step: charge more for receiving it.

I didn't forget it, it's already been done, multiple times. I was just
suggesting a new way for the networks to make money, something they haven't
tried YET. :) -Dave



Actually, they have--they're called home shopping networks. Pure profit,
virtually no production costs.

Actually, they have--they're called home shopping networks. Pure profit,
virtually no production costs.

Oh Yeah! Forgot about that. So that's the shape of things to come, eh?
Pretty soon all we're going to have for programming is hundreds of 24/7
shopping channels, selling televisions so you can watch shopping channels.
:) -Dave

"Dave C." wrote:

What about the logos that go ANIMATED all over the frickin' screen in the
middle of the best part of your favorite shows? Yeah, like I really want
to
watch my show with dancing dinosaurs IN THE FOREGROUND. -Dave


Yes, and apparently visual distraction isn't enough for these folks -
some networks have added sound to make sure you don't miss their
animations.

Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.
:)

I take it you haven't seen the TV Guide Channel.
;-)



joemooreaterolsdotcom

Mango wrote:

The local affiliate Digital broadcasts of CBS NBC And ABC insist on putting
their transparent logo on the bottom right of the screen which NEVER goes
away.

Will this burn in on my HD TV set?

Very old and some new plasma displays have burn-in. Most
new sets, even HD sets, do not.

On Mon, 17 May 2004 04:12:08 -0400, "Dave C." wrote:


"Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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No...but you can set your brightness and contrast to the proper levels to
assure you no burn in.
I promise you that, in any "class action suit" the stations will be able
to
prove that sets properly set up will not show burn in.


Ummmm . . . thinking of a gentle way to say this, but you don't know what
you are talking about, then. Most people don't know how to adjust
brightness and contrast correctly. I do, as I am PAID to know (among other
things) how to properly adjust brightness and contrast. BUT, you can set
brightness and contrast correctly OR NOT. Won't matter. Any image that is
visible on a TV can be burned into that TV, if that image is displayed long
enough. -Dave


For some values of "TV", sure - but certainly not ALL.

Does that mean we can turn the bug off to prevent burn-in? -Dave

Yes, see that "Channel" and "OFF" button on your remote?

Of course!!! Turn it off and leave it off! No burn-in problem. What a
BRILLIANT idea!!! I wonder why I didn't think of it? -Dave (come to think
of it, I'll never drive the car again . . . that way, nobody will rear-end
me ever again. Safety first!)

Ridiculous analogy. A more astute one would be "Even though I know
it's dangerous to drive without wearing my seatbelt, I'll continue to
not wear one, and when I get injured, I'll blame the car company and
start a class action lawsuit".

I posted this once before in relation to a similar thread, but it seems
appropriate to post again here...

My stepfather has a 5 year-old Pioneer Elite 510, a fairly expensive
set, which he has also had professionally calibrated. I went over to
his house about 6 months ago and pulled off the glare screen to clean it
for him. After putting it back on, we all saw something in the lower
1/4 of the screen that I at first thought was some kind of smudge or
dirt I missed. After taking the glare screen off again to clean it, it
became evident that it was burn-in on the screen itself, bad enough to
be evident when the set is completely off. Once we new that and looked
close enough, it was fairly easy to see that it was the local news
station's "banner" that is often across the bottom of the screen,
containing their logo, name, and occasional headlines or weather info.

Now, this is a fairly expensive set, and as it has been calibrated, and
I've seen the picture myself, I'm 100% confident that the contrast or
black level settings are not overly high. And certainly my stepfather
doesn't watch this one news station 24 hours a day. Yet, this "banner"
is now permanently etched into his screen.

So anyone thinking that it's not possible, or even probable, for station
logos to cause screen burn-in are kidding themselves.