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Gordon Burditt May 16th 04 06:58 PM

Most of these logos are semi-transparent, which should
prevent any burn-in (unless by some miracle, the background
behind the logo stays black or another single color for many,
many hours at one time).


It's not a miracle. It may be considered a curse by some. It's
called "letterboxing". The station "bug" is likely to show up in
a corner which is not covered by a wide-screen movie when viewed
on a 4:3 aspect ratio TV (that is, not HDTV), and therefore the
background for the "bug", or most of it, is black all the time. I
don't know whether the opposite issue also occurs: watching 4:3
programming transmitted on HDTV on a 16:9 monitor. The bug might
be inserted outside the area of the screen used by programming.

I think modern monitors are better than this, though. How many
(computer) monitors end up having the Windows toolbar burned into
them? (Screensavers may not help if you spend a lot of time in
front of the computer actually using it.)

Gordon L. Burditt

Bob Ward May 16th 04 07:44 PM

On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:02:53 -0500, "Mango"
wrote:

Gary, I disagree. If Mcdonalds was putting a food addivte that would hurt
100% of the people...you bet they could be sued. If a tv station is
broadcasting a banner that can be shown to burn in 100% of the tv sets...you
dont think they are liable for damage?....I would think they would be and I
think that it could be proven, easily in a court of law.

Mango



Of course, the fact that 100% of the TV sets aren't susceptible to
burn-in might hurt your cause...



wideglide01 May 16th 04 08:10 PM

Previously in misc.consumers, Bob Ward proclaimed
:

On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:02:53 -0500, "Mango"
wrote:

Gary, I disagree. If Mcdonalds was putting a food addivte that would hurt
100% of the people...you bet they could be sued. If a tv station is
broadcasting a banner that can be shown to burn in 100% of the tv sets...you
dont think they are liable for damage?....I would think they would be and I
think that it could be proven, easily in a court of law.

Mango



Of course, the fact that 100% of the TV sets aren't susceptible to
burn-in might hurt your cause...



....as are 100% of monitors manufactured in the last 10 years.




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SuperEeyore May 16th 04 09:12 PM

Gordon Burditt wrote:
I think modern monitors are better than this, though. How many
(computer) monitors end up having the Windows toolbar burned into
them? (Screensavers may not help if you spend a lot of time in
front of the computer actually using it.)


But that toolbar is easily moved to any side of the screen...

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Bob Ward May 16th 04 09:30 PM

On Sun, 16 May 2004 12:12:20 -0700, "SuperEeyore"
wrote:

Gordon Burditt wrote:
I think modern monitors are better than this, though. How many
(computer) monitors end up having the Windows toolbar burned into
them? (Screensavers may not help if you spend a lot of time in
front of the computer actually using it.)


But that toolbar is easily moved to any side of the screen...

Laurel


I'm going on six years with my current monitor - no signs of burn-in
yet.



Don Priebe May 16th 04 09:37 PM

But that toolbar is easily moved to any side of the screen...

That's pretty advanced for the majority of computer users grin
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Happy Thoughts May 16th 04 10:27 PM

Rick wrote:
The "logos" that drive me nuts are the ones that completely
replace the lower portion of the screen (e.g. SpikeTV,
when they first came on the air).


I absolutely HATE IT when the logos cover up something in the program
I'm watching, such as the name of a person being interviewed, the name
of the book they're talking about, a phone number or web address, etc.
Can't the stations/networks at least remove their stupid logos long
enough to let us see stuff like that?!

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Timothy Horrigan May 17th 04 02:42 AM

Bob Ward wrote in message . ..


Of course, the fact that 100% of the TV sets aren't susceptible to
burn-in might hurt your cause...


Also, if burn-in does turn out to be a problem you would have more
luck suing the manufacturer of the TV set than you would suing the
broadcasters :-)

In any case, the engineers who developed the current generation of TV
sets were aware that burn-in would be a bad thing, and they have taken
steps to prevent it. Hopefully these are successful steps. (And
there are relatively simple ways to test the success, e.g., by leaving
the same image on a prototype set on 24/7 for months at a time to see
if burn-in is happening.)

In most cases, as others have pointed out, the bugs are usually
semi-transparent. Not only that, not every station's bug is in the
same place (indeed some stations don't even put them in the lower
right hand corner) and bugs go away when a commercial is on (and also
if you are playing a DVD or watching an on-demand movie...)

Mike Helm May 17th 04 03:10 AM

On Sun, 16 May 2004 12:12:20 -0700, "SuperEeyore"


Gordon Burditt wrote:
I think modern monitors are better than this, though. How many
(computer) monitors end up having the Windows toolbar burned into
them? (Screensavers may not help if you spend a lot of time in
front of the computer actually using it.)


But that toolbar is easily moved to any side of the screen...

Or you can auto-hide it.

Mike Helm May 17th 04 03:12 AM

On Sun, 16 May 2004 12:15:13 -0400, "Dave C."

The "logos" that drive me nuts are the ones that completely
replace the lower portion of the screen (e.g. SpikeTV,
when they first came on the air).

Rick


What about the logos that go ANIMATED all over the frickin' screen in the
middle of the best part of your favorite shows? Yeah, like I really want to
watch my show with dancing dinosaurs IN THE FOREGROUND. -Dave


Yes, and apparently visual distraction isn't enough for these folks -
some networks have added sound to make sure you don't miss their
animations.


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