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MartinR March 24th 10 02:30 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Apart from the fact that this NG is nearly exclusively male, the
females in my family (I am in a minority of 1) seem to fail to
appreciate the joys of high-definition television.

I will happily put on the far superior picture of Channel Four HD (we
have Virgin Media), but the Mrs and daughters then complain about the
lack of subtitles on HD and ask to turn to the SD equivalent. They
seem to fail to notice the difference between HD and SD, they say
things such as "why do we need HD, we already have had to go
digital!".

Bizarrely, they point out what they deem to be the problems with HD.
"You can see all the wrinkles on people's faces. You can see
individual clumps of grass on HDTV football matches - that's
horrible!".

I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them - maybe that's a good thing. They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.

MR




Adrian C March 24th 10 02:36 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24/03/2010 13:30, MartinR wrote:

I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them


Yup. And the color of the car.

--
Adrian C

[email protected] March 24th 10 03:24 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT), MartinR
wrote:

They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.


If your TV picture resembles a Youtube video then something is far
wrong .:-)

Paul D.Smith[_2_] March 24th 10 03:26 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
....snip...

I sometimes remember happily watching programmes on a 12inch B&W portable.
You become far more discerning as to what is a good program, and what is
simply eye-candy.

I imagine that for the moment, HD is heavily in the eye-candy phase until it
becomes "just normal" and people stop trying to exploit it and get back to
making decent programmes.

Same can be said for Real-D at the cinema where many films just throw things
"out of the screen" because they can whilst few make full use of the
technology. I felt genuinely uncomfortable watching some of the "running
along tree trunks over huge canyons" shots in Avatar - now that impressed
me.

Paul DS.



David March 24th 10 03:28 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT), MartinR
wrote:

They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.


If your TV picture resembles a Youtube video then something is far
wrong .:-)



Read his post again he did not say what you have read into it.
David


MartinR March 24th 10 03:58 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24 Mar, 14:24, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT), MartinR

wrote:
They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.


If your TV picture resembles a Youtube video then something is far
wrong .:-)


A YouTube video on my TV looks like a YouTube video, a HD picture
looks superb.

MR

MartinR March 24th 10 04:00 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24 Mar, 13:36, Adrian C wrote:
On 24/03/2010 13:30, MartinR wrote:



I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them


Yup. And the color of the car.

--
Adrian C


Too true. The number of times my daughters whinge about the lack of
something or a fault on their pink fluffy mobile phones.


MR

[email protected] March 24th 10 04:28 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:28:33 -0000, "David"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT), MartinR
wrote:

They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.


If your TV picture resembles a Youtube video then something is far
wrong .:-)



Read his post again he did not say what you have read into it.
David


I just have and now I know even less what he meant but anyway .Who
cares .

Adrian C March 24th 10 04:59 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24/03/2010 15:00, MartinR wrote:
On 24 Mar, 13:36, Adrian wrote:
On 24/03/2010 13:30, MartinR wrote:



I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them


Yup. And the color of the car.


Too true. The number of times my daughters whinge about the lack of
something or a fault on their pink fluffy mobile phones.


For most practical things, the attention span of most females with
regard to technical things is a lot shorter than men. Unfortunately
nothing new there.

However, as cooking is a life or death thing, I'm thankful at least that
skill has been mastered.

Saves me washing up ;-)

--
Adrian C

Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 10 05:03 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
In article
,
MartinR wrote:
Bizarrely, they point out what they deem to be the problems with HD.
"You can see all the wrinkles on people's faces. You can see
individual clumps of grass on HDTV football matches - that's
horrible!".


Set for a career as Head of Production, then.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Max Demian March 24th 10 05:28 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/2010 13:30, MartinR wrote:

I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them


Yup. And the color of the car.


And they choose a new tyre because they like the tread pattern.

--
Max Demian



Halmyre[_2_] March 24th 10 07:16 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24 Mar, 16:28, "Max Demian" wrote:
"Adrian C" wrote in message

...

On 24/03/2010 13:30, MartinR wrote:


I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them


Yup. And the color of the car.


And they choose a new tyre because they like the tread pattern.


No, the tyre shop sees them coming from ****ing miles away on their
GullibleWoman radar, giving them plenty of time to dig out the most
expensive tyres in the place.

--
Halmyre

airsmoothed March 24th 10 07:19 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On Mar 24, 1:30*pm, MartinR wrote:

I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them - maybe that's a good thing. *
MR


Yes, I'm a male and that's certainly my view, Eastenders is just as
tedious with three times as many pixels as before...
Having said that, a few months back I decided to switch the Digibox to
RGB, having used it on composite for 9 years or so. To me the
difference seems obvious on reasonable quality source material ( sky
arts 1 for example) but neither of my teenaged daughters or wife even
noticed. They're also quite happy to watch everything in
stretchyvision with all those short fat people etc.

Kellerman March 24th 10 08:06 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24/03/2010 13:30, MartinR wrote:
Apart from the fact that this NG is nearly exclusively male, the
females in my family (I am in a minority of 1) seem to fail to
appreciate the joys of high-definition television.

I will happily put on the far superior picture of Channel Four HD (we
have Virgin Media), but the Mrs and daughters then complain about the
lack of subtitles on HD and ask to turn to the SD equivalent. They
seem to fail to notice the difference between HD and SD, they say
things such as "why do we need HD, we already have had to go
digital!".

Bizarrely, they point out what they deem to be the problems with HD.
"You can see all the wrinkles on people's faces. You can see
individual clumps of grass on HDTV football matches - that's
horrible!".

I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them - maybe that's a good thing. They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.

MR



Even the content does not matter as long as it's either pink, has some
hunk (in their opinion) or has some fluffy cute animal/kid in it.
Dave
--
Blow my nose to email me

DVDfever March 24th 10 09:19 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24 Mar, 13:30, MartinR wrote:
Apart from the fact that this NG is nearly exclusively male, the
females in my family (I am in a minority of 1) seem to fail to
appreciate the joys of high-definition television.

I will happily put on the far superior picture of Channel Four HD (we
have Virgin Media), but the Mrs and daughters then complain about the
lack of subtitles on HD and ask to turn to the SD equivalent.


Worth turning off thanks to their retarded logo.

DVDfever March 24th 10 09:22 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On 24 Mar, 18:07, Mike Henry wrote:
In ,

MartinR wrote:
Bizarrely, they point out what they deem to be the problems with HD.
"You can see all the wrinkles on people's faces. You can see
individual clumps of grass on HDTV football matches - that's
horrible!".


The sad result of a decade of parsimonious bitrates on SD.


Which is why, no doubt, they're reducing the HD bitrate in spades too.
They really haven't got a clue.

GS March 24th 10 10:04 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 

"MartinR" wrote in message
...
Apart from the fact that this NG is nearly exclusively male, the
females in my family (I am in a minority of 1) seem to fail to
appreciate the joys of high-definition television.

I will happily put on the far superior picture of Channel Four HD (we
have Virgin Media), but the Mrs and daughters then complain about the
lack of subtitles on HD and ask to turn to the SD equivalent. They
seem to fail to notice the difference between HD and SD, they say
things such as "why do we need HD, we already have had to go
digital!".

Bizarrely, they point out what they deem to be the problems with HD.
"You can see all the wrinkles on people's faces. You can see
individual clumps of grass on HDTV football matches - that's
horrible!".

I get the impression that the content of the programmes is more
important to them - maybe that's a good thing. They will happily
watch something resembling a YouTube video as long as it's one of
those bloody property programmes or anything with Gok Wan in it.


My better half can tell the difference between HD and SD. I was a bit
skeptical when we installed HD but it really does make a difference.


Felicity S. March 24th 10 10:07 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Martin.R wrote:

Apart from the fact that this NG is nearly exclusively male, the
females in my family (I am in a minority of 1) seem to fail to
appreciate the joys of high-definition television.


I will happily put on the far superior picture of Channel Four HD (we
have Virgin Media), but the Mrs and daughters then complain about the
lack of subtitles on HD and ask to turn to the SD equivalent. They
seem to fail to notice the difference between HD and SD, they say
things such as "why do we need HD, we already have had to go
digital!".


If I might be permitted by this newsgroup to make a slightly technical
point, might I suggest that you are not watching anything in SD on your
television, but upscaled SD, so the qualitative difference is less?

And do any of your HD channels have an on-screen logo telling you that
it's in HD, while the upscaled SD version is clean & uncluttered?


Fliss

--
She said: I sneak in the salmon under my sweater.
He said: Good. That way we don't have to pay for
that overpriced movie fish.


Felicity S. March 24th 10 10:09 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Brian Gaff wrote:

The thing is though, unless the picture is really awful, if the program
does not demand hd, and you get into it, then nobody I know notices if
its hd or not, no matter what gender they are.


Every TV has a magic button which improves quality. It's the OFF button.


Its a bit like hi fi etc, if the sound is reasonable and you like the
music, who cares, whereas the hi fi buff nver listens to the music,
he/she compares it with some mythical realness to see if its been altered.


When I was younger, I inadvertently annoyed a wealthy friend by noticing
a problem with his over-priced hi-fi which he could not hear. It was like
having a bad table at a jazz club, sitting very close to the bassist.


Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed through.
I remember when I was being told about my eyesight, they showed us the
quality of the image most retinas see, its crap. The brain is what
constructs the image, constantly aiming the macular at the bit where the
action is, as its there where the definition is not bad. The rest is
total rubbish and jiggling about all the time.


True, there are even holes you're programmed not to notice. The vertebrate
eye is so badly constructed that it's proof against Intelligent Design.


Fliss

--
She said: His house was on a bluff over a lake. I always loved
the view, sunlight over water - my favourite spot.
He said: Yes, magical. Too bad you nuked it.


Steve Thackery[_2_] March 24th 10 11:32 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 

"Felicity S." [email protected] wrote in message
news:[email protected]

If I might be permitted by this newsgroup to make a slightly technical
point, might I suggest that you are not watching anything in SD on your
television, but upscaled SD, so the qualitative difference is less?


I'm no expert, but I imagine it must depend a lot on what is meant by
"upscaling", anyway.

For instance, I imagine the SD picture could be resized, with no other
processing, to fill the 1920 x 1080 screen. On a better telly there might
be all sorts of additional processing (sharpening, etc) to fool the eye into
thinking it's looking at a higher-def picture than it really is.

Perhaps it all depends on the telly.

SteveT


Richard Tobin March 25th 10 01:47 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
In article [email protected],
Felicity S. [email protected] wrote:

If I might be permitted by this newsgroup to make a slightly technical
point, might I suggest that you are not watching anything in SD on your
television, but upscaled SD, so the qualitative difference is less?


Upscaling in the television can't introduce any detail that isn't
there in the signal. And SD broadcasts, whether analogue or digital,
don't by any means fully use the SD resolution of the television - an
HD broadcast scaled down and displayed on an SD screen ought to look
much better than an SD broadcast.

So there's no reason in principle why it should be anything but
bigger. But in practice the quality of SD display on HD televisions
has improved a lot in the last few years, and may well now be better
than an old SD television.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

Johnny B Good March 25th 10 03:27 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
The message [email protected]
from "Felicity S." [email protected] contains these words:

Brian Gaff wrote:


The thing is though, unless the picture is really awful, if the program
does not demand hd, and you get into it, then nobody I know notices if
its hd or not, no matter what gender they are.


Every TV has a magic button which improves quality. It's the OFF button.



Its a bit like hi fi etc, if the sound is reasonable and you like the
music, who cares, whereas the hi fi buff nver listens to the music,
he/she compares it with some mythical realness to see if its been altered.


When I was younger, I inadvertently annoyed a wealthy friend by noticing
a problem with his over-priced hi-fi which he could not hear. It was like
having a bad table at a jazz club, sitting very close to the bassist.



Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed through.
I remember when I was being told about my eyesight, they showed us the
quality of the image most retinas see, its crap. The brain is what
constructs the image, constantly aiming the macular at the bit where the
action is, as its there where the definition is not bad. The rest is
total rubbish and jiggling about all the time.


True, there are even holes you're programmed not to notice. The vertebrate
eye is so badly constructed that it's proof against Intelligent Design.


That's a false argument to use against the creationists' theory of
"Intelligent Design". The function of the vertebrate eye is radically
different to that of a camera (movie or still). The retina represents an
outpost of the brain which, after all, has to process the information in
order to achieve the sense we call 'vision'.

Evolution has come up with a superbly optimised solution to the problem
of sensing, without generating processing overload, an environment which
contains both hazards and rewards. Being able to rapidly respond to
threats and rewards was a major survival factor in our evolutionary
history.

The eye, taken in isolation, might seem to be a very poor device
compared to a camera but its extremely low resolution peripheral field
of vision is excellent at detecting changes (ie movement) which is all
that is required when the brain has immediate and full control over its
direction of gaze and also, most importantly, all that is required to
detect threats from predators or the detection of prey in order to
handle the challenges of staying alive long enough to procreate.

If the designers of roving robotic machines wish to endow them with a
sense of vision, they could hardly do better than to emulate the
vertebrate eye and the associated processing algorithms. A really savvy
creationist could then use your argument that the eye is a poor camera
as an argument for "Intelligent Design" by a 'Creator' with the
consumate patience to get it 'just right'.

--
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Roderick Stewart[_2_] March 25th 10 07:04 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed through.


I have to disagree. Pictures are affected very much by the brightness
and colour of anything that surrounds them within the field of view, and
by the general ambient brightness and colour of the light in the room,
not to mention objects which may be seen reflected in them if they have
shiny surfaces. Why do you think cinemas are always dark?

Rod.
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/


Lewis A March 25th 10 07:24 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:04:06 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed through.


I have to disagree. Why do you think cinemas are always dark?


Snogging, and stuff.

Col[_3_] March 25th 10 07:52 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Paul D.Smith wrote:
...snip...

I sometimes remember happily watching programmes on a 12inch B&W
portable. You become far more discerning as to what is a good
program, and what is simply eye-candy.


Up until about 5 years ago I had an ancient B&W set that gave an
excellent picture and was perfectly watchable.
Plus a really good B&W film watched on a colour set is fine, you
forget it's B&W if there's a good plot with excellent acting.
And would Laurel & Hardy have been any funnier in colour?
It would have looked downright weird if you ask me.
--
Col

And all the stars that never were
Are parking cars and pumping gas.





Col[_3_] March 25th 10 08:07 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Felicity S. wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:

The thing is though, unless the picture is really awful, if the
program does not demand hd, and you get into it, then nobody I know
notices if its hd or not, no matter what gender they are.


Every TV has a magic button which improves quality. It's the OFF
button.


Turning the radio on has much the same effect.
--
Col

And all the stars that never were
Are parking cars and pumping gas.



Col[_3_] March 25th 10 08:08 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed
through.


I have to disagree. Pictures are affected very much by the brightness
and colour of anything that surrounds them within the field of view,
and by the general ambient brightness and colour of the light in the
room, not to mention objects which may be seen reflected in them if
they have shiny surfaces. Why do you think cinemas are always dark?


And why watching TV oudoors on a sunny day is pointless.
--
Col

And all the stars that never were
Are parking cars and pumping gas.



Gary March 25th 10 10:49 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
Felicity S. [email protected] wrote:

If I might be permitted by this newsgroup to make a slightly technical
point, might I suggest that you are not watching anything in SD on your
television, but upscaled SD, so the qualitative difference is less?


Upscaling in the television can't introduce any detail that isn't
there in the signal. And SD broadcasts, whether analogue or digital,
don't by any means fully use the SD resolution of the television - an
HD broadcast scaled down and displayed on an SD screen ought to look
much better than an SD broadcast.

So there's no reason in principle why it should be anything but
bigger. But in practice the quality of SD display on HD televisions
has improved a lot in the last few years, and may well now be better
than an old SD television.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.


This debate is valid but pointless because you are all comparing different
things in different ways.

Firstly a sky box will upscale. That is how mine is set. All pictures come
out at 1080.
So the tv has no processing to do for SD as it is not SD.
My TV is connected by HDMI so the picture is digital.
My TV is quite a good one.

when we first got our HD TV we used a normal dig box and the RF connection.
The picture was SD and the box was SD and the picture was good. The same
system on our old TV was not as good a picture. So the new TV was an
improvement.

Then i got the HD box and the HDMI connection. The picture on all channels
was SOOOOOO much better. and HD was WOW. 2 years on if i put the TV in RF
analogue mode and look at the results, it looks so bad it makes you wonder
how you ever put up with it, and that was the better picture on the NEW TV!

It all depends on what you expect and what you consider normal.

I use the RF analogue and the HDMI on a HD channel to demonstrate HD TV.
Everyone can see the difference and if they have not got HD then the person
is more than likely to be using RF on their own TV at home so the
comparison is valid. remember most people cannot tell the difference between
scart and RF

My son felt he was bashing his head with his wife as no matter what he did
she could not see the improvement on HD. She insisted it looked nice but
could not really tell the difference or was bothered about it. Time passed
and one day she said 'What's wrong with the TV' it turned out to be nothing
was wrong but they were on a SD channel and now she could see not the HD
improvement but the lack of quality on SD and she did not like it.

Women are different, but not a lot.

Gary




Max Demian March 25th 10 11:47 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
.. .
The message [email protected]
from "Felicity S." [email protected] contains these words:
Brian Gaff wrote:

[...]

Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed through.
I remember when I was being told about my eyesight, they showed us the
quality of the image most retinas see, its crap. The brain is what
constructs the image, constantly aiming the macular at the bit where
the
action is, as its there where the definition is not bad. The rest is
total rubbish and jiggling about all the time.


True, there are even holes you're programmed not to notice. The
vertebrate
eye is so badly constructed that it's proof against Intelligent Design.


That's a false argument to use against the creationists' theory of
"Intelligent Design". The function of the vertebrate eye is radically
different to that of a camera (movie or still). The retina represents an
outpost of the brain which, after all, has to process the information in
order to achieve the sense we call 'vision'.


Only a deranged Designer would wire up the retina so that the nerve fibres
block the light path.
[...]

If the designers of roving robotic machines wish to endow them with a
sense of vision, they could hardly do better than to emulate the
vertebrate eye and the associated processing algorithms.


Optically a cephalopod eye would be a better bet. Or an insect.

A really savvy
creationist could then use your argument that the eye is a poor camera
as an argument for "Intelligent Design" by a 'Creator' with the
consumate patience to get it 'just right'.


Except He cocked the vertebrate eye up because He was spending all his time
creating millions of different beatle species.

--
Max Demian



Peter Duncanson March 25th 10 01:53 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:47:00 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:


Only a deranged Designer would wire up the retina so that the nerve fibres
block the light path.


"Look here friend. The design was fine when it left my office. It is not
my fault that the production team screwed up. The fault was not detected
at an early enough stage to do anything about it. Recalling units and
replacing the eyes was just not feasible from an engineering point of
view. The alternative was a mass extinction and a restart. As the
affected units were managing adequately with the faulty eyes it was
decided to take no action.

Best regards, The Designer"


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Dave Plowman (News) March 25th 10 04:15 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
In article ,
Gary wrote:
remember most people cannot tell the difference between
scart and RF


Those 'most people' must be registered blind. The difference on a menu or
EPG etc is immediately obvious - before you even watch the first picture.

--
*Letting a cat out of the bag is easier than putting it back in *

Dave Plowman London SW
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David March 25th 10 04:18 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 


"Gary" wrote in message
...



Most people not geeks and nerds look at a TV and if it glows than it is a
success
after nigh on 30 years in TV repair i know what people watch and it isn't
good.


Your right.
I was told a long time ago when the first TV sets came out with 2
loudspeakers that TV now had stereo sound, this was years before stereo
sound was broadcast here.
My brother was sent out to repair a TV sound fault he fixed the sound and
noticed the TV picture colour was wrong, one of the 3 colour guns on the crt
was not connected, he connected it.
On his return to base his manager was jumping up and down, the lady of the
house had given him an ear bending on how the engineer and ruined their TV
picture. My brother returned and disconnected the that colour again and all
was well with the customer.
Regards
David


bugbear March 25th 10 05:16 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Gary wrote:
remember most people cannot tell the difference
between scart and RF


Ye gods - the world is doomed.

Is that really true?

BugBear

keith March 25th 10 06:45 PM

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:47:00 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
. ..
The message [email protected]
from "Felicity S." [email protected] contains these words:
Brian Gaff wrote:

[...]

Now pictures of course, should be hi fi, as it were, as they are not
affected by the room, only the electronics they are processed through.
I remember when I was being told about my eyesight, they showed us the
quality of the image most retinas see, its crap. The brain is what
constructs the image, constantly aiming the macular at the bit where
the
action is, as its there where the definition is not bad. The rest is
total rubbish and jiggling about all the time.


True, there are even holes you're programmed not to notice. The
vertebrate
eye is so badly constructed that it's proof against Intelligent Design.


That's a false argument to use against the creationists' theory of
"Intelligent Design". The function of the vertebrate eye is radically
different to that of a camera (movie or still). The retina represents an
outpost of the brain which, after all, has to process the information in
order to achieve the sense we call 'vision'.


Only a deranged Designer would wire up the retina so that the nerve fibres
block the light path.
[...]

If the designers of roving robotic machines wish to endow them with a
sense of vision, they could hardly do better than to emulate the
vertebrate eye and the associated processing algorithms.


Optically a cephalopod eye would be a better bet. Or an insect.

A really savvy
creationist could then use your argument that the eye is a poor camera
as an argument for "Intelligent Design" by a 'Creator' with the
consumate patience to get it 'just right'.


Except He cocked the vertebrate eye up because He was spending all his time
creating millions of different beatle species.


Thought there were only four

Keith

Felicity S. March 25th 10 06:54 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
Steve Thackery wrote:

Felicity S. wrote:


If I might be permitted by this newsgroup to make a slightly technical
point, might I suggest that you are not watching anything in SD on your
television, but upscaled SD, so the qualitative difference is less?


I'm no expert, but I imagine it must depend a lot on what is meant by
"upscaling", anyway. For instance, I imagine the SD picture could be
resized, with no other processing, to fill the 1920 x 1080 screen. On
a better telly there might be all sorts of additional processing
(sharpening, etc) to fool the eye into thinking it's looking at a
higher-def picture than it really is.


Our telly does just that; and as Brian mentioned in his post, our eyes
are low-def, with all sorts of additional processing in the brain.


Fliss

--
She said: You campaigned for me? Why? You think all this...
'school spirit' stuff is stupid.
He said: I never said it was stupid, I said it's beneath you.


Felicity S. March 25th 10 06:55 PM

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Col wrote:

Felicity S. wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:


The thing is though, unless the picture is really awful, if the
program does not demand hd, and you get into it, then nobody I know
notices if its hd or not, no matter what gender they are.


Every TV has a magic button which improves quality. It's the OFF
button.


Turning the radio on has much the same effect.


True, the pictures are just wonderful.


Fliss

--
She said: If it weren't for you I would still be the
Queen of Portugal. And now, what am I?
He said: You are drunk and you are foolish!


Andy Champ[_2_] March 25th 10 09:51 PM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
keith wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:47:00 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:
Except He cocked the vertebrate eye up because He was spending all his time
creating millions of different beatle species.


Thought there were only four


Only two now :(

"An inordinate fondness for beetles" - JBS Haldane.

Andy

Steve Thackery[_2_] March 26th 10 12:02 AM

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"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...

"An inordinate fondness for beetles" - JBS Haldane.


Hah! Totally OT, but that quotation reminds me of a dictionary definition I
read for coprophilia which went "An undue interest in faeces." This
immediately made me wonder what a "due" interest in faeces might be!

SteveT


Max Demian March 26th 10 12:59 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 
"keith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:47:00 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:
"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
...

[...]

A really savvy
creationist could then use your argument that the eye is a poor camera
as an argument for "Intelligent Design" by a 'Creator' with the
consumate patience to get it 'just right'.


Except He cocked the vertebrate eye up because He was spending all his
time
creating millions of different beatle species.


Thought there were only four


Damn! That was a genuine mistake. I still think 'beetle' looks wrongly
spelt. I wonder why the spellchecker didn't pick it up?

--
Max Demian



Steve Thackery[_2_] March 26th 10 01:55 AM

Just got an HD telly - also just discovered HD is a bloke thing!
 

"Max Demian" wrote in message
...

I wonder why the spellchecker didn't pick it up?


Probably because of the pop group. It also lets through "Slade", "Abba" and
various others which aren't real English words.

SteveT



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