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Laptop to TV
Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV,
namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. |
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"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. aspect ratio mismatch. |
Laptop to TV
"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Hi, Not sure how you may have connected your TV. However, it is possible that the "viewport" of the TV output is limited. I.e. often they cannot or will not display resolutions above 1024x768, and this is significantly over the analogue capacity (SCART, S-Video, etc.) of the connection method used (anyhow and of analogue TVs). Thus, you may find changing the resolution of the TV out display (or primary display as appropriate - you can do this just temporarily whilst connected to the TV), will result in the whole of the screen being used or being able to be used. I think 640x480 or 800x600 is the absolute maximum of any reality for analogue PC to TV links. Otherwise or additionally, you may wish to explore or examine the advanced options of your display (card) drivers... often these contain quite advanced configuration tools or options for all sorts of things including lots for TV out options, etc. On a related theme, sometimes downloading updated or bespoke drivers for your display hardware (e.g. Nvidia or ATI, etc.) will give you access to such massively increased or improved control and configuration options for all of the display card, but particularly in your case in relation to TV out functions, etc. Hope that helps. Best wishes, News Reader --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
Laptop to TV
Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. There are many ways you can connect a PC and a TV together. At this point we don't even know if the interface is digital or analogue. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Laptop to TV
"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. have you set the laptop resolution to that of the tv ? -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear! |
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Norman Wells wrote:
Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. I have had this occasionally when feeding my TV off a laptop (via svideo connector). I think they get it wrong occasionally. Something to do with taking a 4:3 programme, cropping it to 16:9 for broadcast and then cropping it again to get back to 4:3. Andy |
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On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote:
Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. Dave -- Blow my nose to email me |
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News Reader wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Not sure how you may have connected your TV. OK, it's via the small D-shaped connector on both the laptop and the TV, and I'm using a standard computer to monitor cable. Not sure what the technical name is. However, it is possible that the "viewport" of the TV output is limited. I.e. often they cannot or will not display resolutions above 1024x768, and this is significantly over the analogue capacity (SCART, S-Video, etc.) of the connection method used (anyhow and of analogue TVs). The TV is 1366 x 768. The laptop's default resolution setting, which is the highest it seems to go, is 1280 x 800, but that gives no signal on the TV when that is connected. I have to reduce the resolution on the laptop to get any picture on the TV, and the only one that doesn't distort the picture making circles into upright ellipses is 800 x 600, which is what I used, but that gave the reduced picture size. The chipset in the video driver tells me it's the 'Mobile Intel (R) 965 Express Chipset', if that helps. Thus, you may find changing the resolution of the TV out display (or primary display as appropriate - you can do this just temporarily whilst connected to the TV), will result in the whole of the screen being used or being able to be used. I think 640x480 or 800x600 is the absolute maximum of any reality for analogue PC to TV links. Could you expand on that please. Why is there a maximum? What happens if you exceed it? Otherwise or additionally, you may wish to explore or examine the advanced options of your display (card) drivers... often these contain quite advanced configuration tools or options for all sorts of things including lots for TV out options, etc. On a related theme, sometimes downloading updated or bespoke drivers for your display hardware (e.g. Nvidia or ATI, etc.) will give you access to such massively increased or improved control and configuration options for all of the display card, but particularly in your case in relation to TV out functions, etc. I'll try that when I have a spare moment, but suspect that I probably have the latest version already. I haven't been able to find any appropriate-looking configuration tools though. Hope that helps. Yes, thanks. Do you have any other suggestions based on the further information above though? |
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Andy Champ wrote:
Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. I have had this occasionally when feeding my TV off a laptop (via svideo connector). I think they get it wrong occasionally. Something to do with taking a 4:3 programme, cropping it to 16:9 for broadcast and then cropping it again to get back to 4:3. I don't think it was cropped. It seemed to be a 16:9 image, but just quite a lot smaller than the full area of my TV screen. |
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Graham. wrote:
Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. There are many ways you can connect a PC and a TV together. At this point we don't even know if the interface is digital or analogue. OK, understood. I've replied more fully to News reader's post, but it's via the small D-shaped connector on both usually used for monitors. So, I guess it's digital? |
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"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Graham. wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. There are many ways you can connect a PC and a TV together. At this point we don't even know if the interface is digital or analogue. OK, understood. I've replied more fully to News reader's post, but it's via the small D-shaped connector on both usually used for monitors. So, I guess it's digital? Wrong ;-) it's analogue, 15 pin "VGA" socket. Very similar to an RGB connection over a SCART in fact, but a wider range of horizontal and vertical frequencies are possible. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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Norman Wells said...
it's via the small D-shaped connector on both the laptop and the TV, and I'm using a standard computer to monitor cable. Not sure what the technical name is. It's a VGA cable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector You should be able to set the resolution for the laptop screen and the external display separately. Connect the TV to the laptop and then... Right click on the desktop Click personalize In the tasks list on the left click "connect to projector or other external display" which should either bring up either the standard Vista dual display dialogue or possibly a Compaq or Intel version of such which allows you to set up the two screens as you wish. -- Ken O'Meara http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/ |
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On 18/03/2010 21:13, Kellerman kellerman snot wrote:
On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. Dave Yes this normally works...make sure you download it directly from the Intel site though, they are genrally up to date. Those on the Compaq/HP sites are not. Rob. |
Laptop to TV
On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote:
Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. There could be many causes for this... Firstly, what is the native resolution of the Panny television? (1280 x 768, 1366 x 768, 1280 x 720??). Also consult the TV's manual to see what resolutions are available via the VGA input - some older TVs do not offer the full res on the VGA in, only via HDMI). Secondly, what is the graphics chip in your laptop? (Control Panel, system, device manager, display adapters)? Make a note... Next does the Laptop detect the Panny TV when it is connected ( via a 'fully wired' VGA cable)? You need to toggle the second output from the laptop (Function + f5 or similar - correct f key is marked with two displays logo). (Toggling gives internal display, both displays, external display only options). Laptop should do its 'bing bong' found a new device thing... Laptop should read EDID from TV and show it is connected to a Panasonic TV and offer its native resolution. In the display driver you can select either 'clone mode' or 'extended desktop' - set to extended desktop for now. Set internal display to its native res' and second display output to the Panny TV's native res. If the laptop does not do its 'bing bong' thing then I suggest updating the graphics chipset drivers to the latest version (this will be specific to your laptop model, downloaded via the Compaq website) Once you are outputting the native res of the TV, any other display problems can be fixed via the TV's setup menus... Guy |
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"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... "Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. have you set the laptop resolution to that of the tv ? On new kit, this usually happens automatically. The fact that it has got close to the right size suggest that it has happend automatically, but got it wrong, rather then it not happing automatically at all. tim |
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Kellerman" wrote:
On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. OK. I updated the driver for the chipset through Windows update that told me a better one was available. I then went to the Intel site and found there was an even later update, so I then downloaded and installed that as well. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. No can do, sadly. The option for the TV as a monitor, set through the computer, defaults to 1024 x 768 (the native resolution of the laptop screen), and does not even offer 1366 x 768 (ie the native resolution of the TV) as an option. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. My chipset is 'Mobile Intel 965 Express', and the laptop is no less than 2 years old. So, it should surely recognise and be able to handle 1366 x 768, shouldn't it? |
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Graham. wrote:
"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Graham. wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. There are many ways you can connect a PC and a TV together. At this point we don't even know if the interface is digital or analogue. OK, understood. I've replied more fully to News reader's post, but it's via the small D-shaped connector on both usually used for monitors. So, I guess it's digital? Wrong ;-) it's analogue, 15 pin "VGA" socket. Very similar to an RGB connection over a SCART in fact, but a wider range of horizontal and vertical frequencies are possible. OK, so it's analogue. Does that make a difference as regards the problem I outlined? |
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UnsteadyKen wrote:
Norman Wells said... it's via the small D-shaped connector on both the laptop and the TV, and I'm using a standard computer to monitor cable. Not sure what the technical name is. It's a VGA cable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector You should be able to set the resolution for the laptop screen and the external display separately. Yes, but not to the native resolution of the TV, ie 1366 x 768. It's just not available as an option. Connect the TV to the laptop and then... Right click on the desktop Click personalize In the tasks list on the left click "connect to projector or other external display" which should either bring up either the standard Vista dual display dialogue or possibly a Compaq or Intel version of such which allows you to set up the two screens as you wish. Done, but no possibility to set to 1366 x 768 unfortunately. Could that be a problem associated with the connection being VGA? According to the TV manual, under 'Displaying PC screen on TV' it says: "PC Setup - Input resolution: Switches to a wide view * VGA (640 x 480 pixels, WVGA (852 x 480 pixels), XGA (1024 x 768 pixels), WXGA (1280 x 768 pixels, 1366 x 768 pixels) * Options change depending on signals" Now, I'm apparently making a VGA connection, but the laptop's native resolution is 1024 x 768, and that same resolution is offered as the default option (and works) for setting up the TV as a monitor, which would imply XGA, wouldn't it? What can I do to make it understand that I want everything in 1366 x 768, which I imagine would allow me to view BBC iPlayer full screen on the TV? Is that possible via a 'VGA' connection? |
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brushhead wrote:
On 18/03/2010 21:13, Kellerman kellerman snot wrote: On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. Dave Yes this normally works...make sure you download it directly from the Intel site though, they are genrally up to date. Those on the Compaq/HP sites are not. Nor are those via Windows update. But thanks for the tip, which I've followed. |
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Bigguy wrote:
On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. There could be many causes for this... Firstly, what is the native resolution of the Panny television? (1280 x 768, 1366 x 768, 1280 x 720??). Also consult the TV's manual to see what resolutions are available via the VGA input - some older TVs do not offer the full res on the VGA in, only via HDMI). Secondly, what is the graphics chip in your laptop? (Control Panel, system, device manager, display adapters)? Make a note... Next does the Laptop detect the Panny TV when it is connected ( via a 'fully wired' VGA cable)? You need to toggle the second output from the laptop (Function + f5 or similar - correct f key is marked with two displays logo). (Toggling gives internal display, both displays, external display only options). Laptop should do its 'bing bong' found a new device thing... Laptop should read EDID from TV and show it is connected to a Panasonic TV and offer its native resolution. In the display driver you can select either 'clone mode' or 'extended desktop' - set to extended desktop for now. Set internal display to its native res' and second display output to the Panny TV's native res. If the laptop does not do its 'bing bong' thing then I suggest updating the graphics chipset drivers to the latest version (this will be specific to your laptop model, downloaded via the Compaq website) Once you are outputting the native res of the TV, any other display problems can be fixed via the TV's setup menus... Much appreciated. I've done what I can to follow all this, but, to avoid repetition, have set out what I've done in other replies. Please do let me know if you have any ideas. |
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tim.... wrote:
"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... "Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. have you set the laptop resolution to that of the tv ? On new kit, this usually happens automatically. The fact that it has got close to the right size suggest that it has happend automatically, but got it wrong, rather then it not happing automatically at all. I'm coming to the conclusion that this must be the problem. I'm just not offered the option of setting the TV as monitor resolution to 1366 x 768, which is its native resolution. Maybe the chipset can't support it? Or could it be a problem with VGA itself? |
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Norman Wells said...
Done, but no possibility to set to 1366 x 768 unfortunately. Could that be a problem associated with the connection being VGA? Possibly, the display capabilities of devices connected are usually communicated to Windows so that Windows does not attempt to set the display to a mode that it cannot cope with. Could be as simple as a bad cable or a poor connection at either plug or socket, I've seen bent/broken/missing pins on many VGA plugs. If you could state the precise model of laptop/tv it would help, as the the generic manual for "Compaq Presario 700" mentions an S-Video connection under a flap at the rear, I assume yours does not have this. And the manuals I downloaded from Panasonic UK available for current 26" LCD (TC26LX 1D/H/20) make no mention of VGA input capabilities that I can see. -- Ken O'Meara http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/ |
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Norman Wells wrote:
Kellerman" wrote: On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. OK. I updated the driver for the chipset through Windows update that told me a better one was available. I then went to the Intel site and found there was an even later update, so I then downloaded and installed that as well. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. No can do, sadly. The option for the TV as a monitor, set through the computer, defaults to 1024 x 768 (the native resolution of the laptop screen), and does not even offer 1366 x 768 (ie the native resolution of the TV) as an option. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. My chipset is 'Mobile Intel 965 Express', and the laptop is no less than 2 years old. So, it should surely recognise and be able to handle 1366 x 768, shouldn't it? Try downloading Powerstrip http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm If that doesn't help, nothing will. -- Adrian |
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Norman Wells wrote:
I'm coming to the conclusion that this must be the problem. I'm just not offered the option of setting the TV as monitor resolution to 1366 x 768, which is its native resolution. Maybe the chipset can't support it? Or could it be a problem with VGA itself? It may be the _TV_ won't allow it, in which case you're stuffed. Some don't. My laptop will drive my #1 best monitor happily at 1920x1200, so VGA per se is not the problem. Andy |
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On 19/03/2010 19:39, Norman Wells wrote:
Kellerman" wrote: On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. OK. I updated the driver for the chipset through Windows update that told me a better one was available. I then went to the Intel site and found there was an even later update, so I then downloaded and installed that as well. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. No can do, sadly. The option for the TV as a monitor, set through the computer, defaults to 1024 x 768 (the native resolution of the laptop screen), and does not even offer 1366 x 768 (ie the native resolution of the TV) as an option. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. My chipset is 'Mobile Intel 965 Express', and the laptop is no less than 2 years old. So, it should surely recognise and be able to handle 1366 x 768, shouldn't it? 1366 x 768? Not necessarily. The TV or monitor has a data link (via the VGA cable) through which it tells the PC what screen resolutions it will support. If it doesn't support 1366 x 768 via the PC VGA input then it wont be available. You need to find out whether your TV supports 1366 x 768 via the VGA connector as some do not and also whether your laptop graphics driver will output that resolution. A good look around the manufactures website/manuals will usually locate the relevant info. -- Blow my nose to email me |
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UnsteadyKen wrote:
Norman Wells said... Done, but no possibility to set to 1366 x 768 unfortunately. Could that be a problem associated with the connection being VGA? Possibly, the display capabilities of devices connected are usually communicated to Windows so that Windows does not attempt to set the display to a mode that it cannot cope with. Could be as simple as a bad cable or a poor connection at either plug or socket, I've seen bent/broken/missing pins on many VGA plugs. If you could state the precise model of laptop/tv it would help, as the the generic manual for "Compaq Presario 700" mentions an S-Video connection under a flap at the rear, I assume yours does not have this. And the manuals I downloaded from Panasonic UK available for current 26" LCD (TC26LX 1D/H/20) make no mention of VGA input capabilities that I can see. The TV is in fact a Panasonic 26" LCD, model TX-L26X10B. According to the TV manual, under 'Displaying PC screen on TV' it says: "PC Setup - Input resolution: Switches to a wide view * VGA (640 x 480 pixels, WVGA (852 x 480 pixels), XGA (1024 x 768 pixels), WXGA (1280 x 768 pixels, 1366 x 768 pixels) * Options change depending on signals" That doesn't help _me_ much, because, if I'm using a VGA connection, why does it allow me to connect the PC at a resolution of 1024 x 768, which seems to be 'XGA', but not at 1366 x 768, which would be WXGA? The laptop is in fact a Compaq Presario C742EA, or possibly C742EM, the first being on the bottom of the computer, the second being in Currys sales literature! I'm using the VGA connection from the laptop, which is immediately to the left of the S-Video socket on the left hand side of the computer. I don't think the cable is faulty, so I'm inclined to think it's just Windows saying (probably correctly) that I can't do it, so shouldn't be given the option even to try. As it does. Thanks for your help so far. Is there anything else you can add based on the further information above, or should I just call it a day, and accept that Bill Gates knows best? |
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Adrian wrote:
Norman Wells wrote: Kellerman" wrote: On 18/03/2010 18:12, Norman Wells wrote: Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Update to the latest driver for your graphics chipset. OK. I updated the driver for the chipset through Windows update that told me a better one was available. I then went to the Intel site and found there was an even later update, so I then downloaded and installed that as well. Set the laptop screen resolution to the same as the resolution of the TV screen. No can do, sadly. The option for the TV as a monitor, set through the computer, defaults to 1024 x 768 (the native resolution of the laptop screen), and does not even offer 1366 x 768 (ie the native resolution of the TV) as an option. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. My chipset is 'Mobile Intel 965 Express', and the laptop is no less than 2 years old. So, it should surely recognise and be able to handle 1366 x 768, shouldn't it? Try downloading Powerstrip http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm If that doesn't help, nothing will. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll bear it in mind if I decide to pursue the matter further, but at the moment I'm starting to lose the will to live. |
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Andy Champ wrote:
Norman Wells wrote: I'm coming to the conclusion that this must be the problem. I'm just not offered the option of setting the TV as monitor resolution to 1366 x 768, which is its native resolution. Maybe the chipset can't support it? Or could it be a problem with VGA itself? It may be the _TV_ won't allow it, in which case you're stuffed. Some don't. Well, it _should_, I think, because the manual says, as I've quoted elsewhe "PC Setup - Input resolution: Switches to a wide view * VGA (640 x 480 pixels, WVGA (852 x 480 pixels), XGA (1024 x 768 pixels), WXGA (1280 x 768 pixels, 1366 x 768 pixels) * Options change depending on signals" When connected to the TV, the laptop gives me certain higher resolution options to output to the TV, even higher than 1366 x 768 (but all of those just give a black screen on the TV), but not exactly 1366 x 768. That's what I want and can't understand why it isn't there since it's a widely used resolution, and hardly new-fangled. What it comes up with as a default resolution is 1024 x 768, which works but doesn't give a full screen picture, at least from BBC iPlayer. To get the correct aspect ratio for the picture, I have to use a setting of 4:3 on the TV. If I alter that to 16:9, the picture stretches to occupy the full width of the TV screen with black bars top and bottom, but it's merely a horizontal stretch (no more picture is displayed) which makes everyone look unpleasantly short and fat. My laptop will drive my #1 best monitor happily at 1920x1200, so VGA per se is not the problem. I think mine would too, but that resolution is higher than the native resolution of the TV, and just gives a black screen if I try it. |
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Kellerman" wrote:
On 19/03/2010 19:39, Norman Wells wrote: No can do, sadly. The option for the TV as a monitor, set through the computer, defaults to 1024 x 768 (the native resolution of the laptop screen), and does not even offer 1366 x 768 (ie the native resolution of the TV) as an option. Some graphics chipset drivers handle this better than others. The ATI chipset on my Acer laptop works very well. My chipset is 'Mobile Intel 965 Express', and the laptop is no less than 2 years old. So, it should surely recognise and be able to handle 1366 x 768, shouldn't it? 1366 x 768? Not necessarily. The TV or monitor has a data link (via the VGA cable) through which it tells the PC what screen resolutions it will support. If it doesn't support 1366 x 768 via the PC VGA input then it wont be available. You need to find out whether your TV supports 1366 x 768 via the VGA connector as some do not and also whether your laptop graphics driver will output that resolution. A good look around the manufactures website/manuals will usually locate the relevant info. Thanks for that. Does the info I've posted in reply to others here help in any way? |
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"Kellerman" "kellerman snot wrote in message o.uk... 1366 x 768? Not necessarily. The TV or monitor has a data link (via the VGA cable) through which it tells the PC what screen resolutions it will support. If it doesn't support 1366 x 768 via the PC VGA input then it wont be available. and even worse, sometimes your tv lies. i have an old sharp aquos, has a resolution of 1366x768. unfortunately when connected via DVI it tells the pc that 1024x768 is the best it can do so windows refuses to play along. i had to use powerstrip to insist on 1366x768 - and it worked. -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear! |
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On 19/03/2010 19:54, Norman Wells wrote:
Much appreciated. I've done what I can to follow all this, but, to avoid repetition, have set out what I've done in other replies. Please do let me know if you have any ideas. Just a thought... do you get the 'bing bong' (device detected) sound when you plug in the VGA cable? If not, check it is fully wired; some VGA cables only connect the (minimum) R,G,B,H,V cores and not the EDID on pins 12 + 15. Without the 'bing bong' you won't get the EDID info from the TV and then its native res will not be available... Monitor Asset Manager 2.4 will show if you're getting EDID info from the TV. http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm If all else fails, download PowerStrip and force the correct res. http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm Guy |
Laptop to TV
Norman Wells said...
The TV is in fact a Panasonic 26" LCD, model TX-L26X10B. OK According to the info and manual at: http://goo.gl/43mI From the information on page 47 of the manual it would appear that it can display 1366x768 and in the table on page 64 it states in that it should accept a VGA signal at 1366x768 @60hz. and on the website it says: Applicable PC signals VGA, WVGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA, SXGA 60Hz So it looks as thought the TV should be doing what you want it to, though the instructions for the PC SetUp menu are a bit vague. So it might appear that the settings on the laptop are the problem. The laptop is in fact a Compaq Presario C742EA, Have you followed the instructions at?: http://goo.gl/kj7Z And most importantly the instructions at: "Select the monitor representing your second display. Click the Extend the desktop onto this monitor check-box and click OK". Sometimes, if using mirror or presentation then both screens can only be set to the native resolution of the main display on the laptop. I'm using the VGA connection from the laptop, which is immediately to the left of the S-Video socket Does S-Video not work? That would be the option I would choose for watching video from PC to a TV, based on past experience but of course it depends on the PC and TV playing ball. Thanks for your help so far. Is there anything else you can add based on the further information above, or should I just call it a day, and accept that Bill Gates knows best? Apart from the above I'm stumped. But you've got me thinking that maybe I should have gone for the laptop with HDMI out which I rejected as irrevelant when i got this model with a 1366x768 screen last year. It's a pain, like viewing web pages through a letterbox, much better to have got one with a more conventional aspect screen. Ah well. -- Ken O'Meara http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/ |
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On 20/03/2010 11:20, Norman Wells wrote:
I don't think the cable is faulty, Why do you think this? The fact that it doesn't work would suggest otherwise... You have to check it. Is it fully wired? Are all 15 pins present at either end? If possible use a DVM and check pins 12 + 15 for continuity. If it's NOT fully wired, OR if it has an internal break then it will give the symptoms you describe. Does the laptop make its 'bing bong' noise when you connect the cable / toggle the laptops display??? G |
Laptop to TV
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:20:46 -0000, "Norman Wells"
wrote: ...or should I just call it a day, and accept that Bill Gates knows best? Unfortunately we can't blame Bill Gates for that problem, however enjoyable that would be. :-) The graphics hardware in the laptop and the software that controls it are not MS products. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
Laptop to TV
UnsteadyKen wrote:
Norman Wells said... The TV is in fact a Panasonic 26" LCD, model TX-L26X10B. OK According to the info and manual at: http://goo.gl/43mI From the information on page 47 of the manual it would appear that it can display 1366x768 and in the table on page 64 it states in that it should accept a VGA signal at 1366x768 @60hz. and on the website it says: Applicable PC signals VGA, WVGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA, SXGA 60Hz So it looks as thought the TV should be doing what you want it to, though the instructions for the PC SetUp menu are a bit vague. So it might appear that the settings on the laptop are the problem. The laptop is in fact a Compaq Presario C742EA, Have you followed the instructions at?: http://goo.gl/kj7Z And most importantly the instructions at: "Select the monitor representing your second display. Click the Extend the desktop onto this monitor check-box and click OK". Sometimes, if using mirror or presentation then both screens can only be set to the native resolution of the main display on the laptop. Yes, I've done that, so that the image is just displayed on the TV not on the laptop at the same time. I'm using the VGA connection from the laptop, which is immediately to the left of the S-Video socket Does S-Video not work? That would be the option I would choose for watching video from PC to a TV, based on past experience but of course it depends on the PC and TV playing ball. And on having an S-Video cable of course, which unfortunately I don't at the moment. Do S-Video cables differ at all, or should I just get the cheapest from Amazon to try one out? Does S-Video carry the sound signal as well, which VGA doesn't? The reference above is interesting in that VGA is only specified for connecting to a 'monitor'. Other connections are apparently required or preferred for 'TV' or 'High Definition TV', but the laptop doesn't have DVI or HDMI outputs, and I don't have an S-Video cable, so I'm stuck at the moment with VGA. Could that be a warning that VGA won't work whatever I do? Thanks for your help so far. Is there anything else you can add based on the further information above, or should I just call it a day, and accept that Bill Gates knows best? Apart from the above I'm stumped. But you've got me thinking that maybe I should have gone for the laptop with HDMI out which I rejected as irrevelant when i got this model with a 1366x768 screen last year. It's a pain, like viewing web pages through a letterbox, much better to have got one with a more conventional aspect screen. Ah well. It's just God's way of telling you that you haven't paid Bill Gates enough money. |
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Bigguy wrote:
On 20/03/2010 11:20, Norman Wells wrote: I don't think the cable is faulty, Why do you think this? The fact that it doesn't work would suggest otherwise... Well, I get a perfect picture down it. It's just that it doesn't fill the screen on the TV. You have to check it. Is it fully wired? Are all 15 pins present at either end? Well, no, actually. There's one missing at either end of the cable, in both cases the second one in the middle row where that row starts inward of the top and bottom rows. Any idea what that one does? If possible use a DVM and check pins 12 + 15 for continuity. If it's NOT fully wired, OR if it has an internal break then it will give the symptoms you describe. Does the laptop make its 'bing bong' noise when you connect the cable / toggle the laptops display??? No, but then I suspect I probably configured the laptop when I set it up to eliminate all extraneous bongs. It certainly recognises the external TV, however, and goes so far as to display the proper image on it, albeit one that is smaller than I really want. What would a bong tell me in addition to that? |
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:20:46 -0000, "Norman Wells" wrote: ...or should I just call it a day, and accept that Bill Gates knows best? Unfortunately we can't blame Bill Gates for that problem, however enjoyable that would be. :-) The graphics hardware in the laptop and the software that controls it are not MS products. OK. I'll have to find another scapegoat then. |
Laptop to TV
Norman Wells said...
And on having an S-Video cable of course, which unfortunately I don't at the moment. Do S-Video cables differ at all, or should I just get the cheapest from Amazon to try one out? They all do the same job, some are more upmarket than others, just go for the cheapest for now as it's not certain that it will solve the problem, Argos does a 6 foot one for £7 I see. http://goo.gl/XpUb Does S-Video carry the sound signal as well, which VGA doesn't? Nope, just video. -- Ken O'Meara http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/ |
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from "Norman Wells" contains these words: Peter Duncanson wrote: On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:20:46 -0000, "Norman Wells" wrote: ...or should I just call it a day, and accept that Bill Gates knows best? Unfortunately we can't blame Bill Gates for that problem, however enjoyable that would be. :-) The graphics hardware in the laptop and the software that controls it are not MS products. OK. I'll have to find another scapegoat then. It's important to make sure the refresh rate hasn't been set too high. 60Hz is the usual maximum for an LCD TV set cum monitor. -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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"Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Yesterday, I finally found a good reason to connect my laptop to the TV, namely watching something on BBC iPlayer with someone else in the comfort of my living room. That worked OK-ish, but I found I couldn't get the picture to display full screen on the TV. Although I set the player to full screen mode, the TV display still had about a 2 inch black border all the way round. Is that normal, or should I be able to view a bigger picture? If so, how please? In case it helps, I have a current model Panasonic 26" LCD TV, and the laptop is a Compaq Presario 700 running Windows Vista Home Premium.. Thanks for any advice or information. Hi, Here is a little bit more of a short and incomplete (and probably not necessarily very useful) reply. You don't want to force your TV / configuration to the 13xx resolution... that is very sub or non-standard. Hence, your laptop is thinking or saying.... what the ...? ... try something normal? ... industry standard etc... that resolution "MAY" be industry standard in the TV sector but it is not anything that most any or all mainstream graphics (PC) vendors would hark nor recognise - lol. Equally or also... you don't want to use the "highest" or (supposed?) "native" resolution anyhow... not if it is actually perhaps somewhat (significantly?) exceeding the optimal performance characteristics of both or either of your TV hardware or laptop display equipment. Hence... 1024 x 768... is perfectly adequate or good... and often 800x600 may even be better or preferable. Faster, smoother, quicker, easier for your laptop and TV, etc., etc. (potentially etc.). Further, your TV should not be "windowing" or "view port"(ing ing) things... it should show whatever resolution you choose (within specification or reason) full screen or such as to fill the entire screen (native scaling or whatever). To that end, try setting the display to 1024x768 or 800x600... then review on your TV... load something... a picture, web page, whatever.. to confirm what boundaries it is actually outputting to the TV... is it full screen or not? Is the TV able to be asked to use a "zoom" mode... Further you may want to try a supposed "wide screen" resolution option.. .perhaps something more like 1280 x 800. Finally there or then.. you might want to consider how iPlayer works... try playing some video (local file [on / off your hard disk] or streamed off the internet) using windows media player... then put that full screen that should give you what you want... again... just look first (lol!)... and make sure the original video (windowed) (as in when played normally, not full screen in windows media player) that the file / media (video) doesn't actually have it's own black bars in the video feed / stream itself lol!... Then you can play and evaluate.. you may need to mess about with iPlayer... and not use it's own "full screen" option or button... but pop the player out and then use a proper full screen moded internet explorer window (F11) to maximise the output displayed etc. to your TV. Just to quickly reference some of the other stuff from our earlier communications.. I assumed you were using traditional TV type out stuff - S-Video, composite, etc... that you are using a VGA cable and therefore "monitor" connection is altogether quite a different, easier and better situation. You certainly don't need any DVI, HDMI, firewire nonsense... good old VGA is more than adequately capable, etc. : - P . (BTW / Aside: As for the "maximum [resolution] for television" that is assuming S-Video or Composite.. and is based on the traditional 468 scan lines or whatever is... so actually any resolution really above that is a nonsense that the [traditional TV, TVs or TV Modes] cannot actually display.. and so just becomes a blurred reduction to 468 lines.. etc. ? ... this is not necessarily or at all applicable with proper PC or monitor connections or modern digital connections, displays or panels, etc - e.g. HDMI, VGA D Connector, DVI, etc.). Last note... it may be that your TV just misbehaves.. and the manufacturers or whoever just didn't or couldn't be bothered to implement standard scaling of different resolutions in the normal or standard form... so .. whatever they have written in the manual about supporting different resolutions.. in reality... it is the weird 1368 or whatever only or nothing! ...lol... and their version or idea of support for the other resolutions is just to use that as a subset of the maximum resolution shown, retained and actually used on the TV (namely the 1368 and all the extra nice black borders, - lol?)?... Unlikely.. .probably a configuration issue on the TV.. but may well not be - lolo!... Finally.. using one of the TV out / display tools as mentioned in the subsequent previous threads... may well totally fix everything instantly... by just forcing the native or fixed resolution of the TV... so don't dispare to much... or too little... lol... that tool may just totally sort it straight away. 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