TV freeze frame capture?
 

As an experiment, I used my point and shoot digital camera to photograph
some scenes of an event off of the screen of a 32" LCD TV. The pictures came
out very well considering that I was hand-holding the camera. My TV does
have a 'freeze-frame' feature, but I got to wondering if there are any TV
models out there that allow a screen capture to be saved, eg. to a memory
card? Has anyone come across this feature?

-N.Morrow

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Mar 12, 12:24*pm, "N.Morrow" wrote:
As an experiment, I used my point and shoot digital camera to photograph
some scenes of an event off of the screen of a 32" LCD TV. The pictures came
out very well considering that I was hand-holding the camera. My TV does
have a 'freeze-frame' feature, but I got to wondering if there are any TV
models out there that allow a screen capture to be saved, eg. to a memory
card? Has anyone come across this feature?

-N.Morrow

If you have a fast enough computer you can install a tuner and record
the video.

I have about the minimum barely acceptable system, a 2.2 GHz Pentium
running XP Home and a Hauppauge 950 USB tuner, with a 22" Vizio TV as
the second monitor, driven by a Radeon 9250 PCI card. It will record
720p solidly but has occasional problems with 1080i. CPU usage runs
over 90% on 720, I have to shut off the monitoring program (and
everything else) for 1080. I should have bought a faster computer with
PCI-E slots.

The Hauppauge tuner handles weak signals and ghosting pretty well,
however their software is unimpressive. I use the free VLC player to
watch ATSC recordings and saved Youtube videos.

http://www.mythtv.org/

jsw

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:26:13 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins
wrote:

On Mar 12, 12:24*pm, "N.Morrow" wrote:
As an experiment, I used my point and shoot digital camera to photograph
some scenes of an event off of the screen of a 32" LCD TV. The pictures came
out very well considering that I was hand-holding the camera. My TV does
have a 'freeze-frame' feature, but I got to wondering if there are any TV
models out there that allow a screen capture to be saved, eg. to a memory
card? Has anyone come across this feature?

-N.Morrow

If you have a fast enough computer you can install a tuner and record
the video.

I have about the minimum barely acceptable system, a 2.2 GHz Pentium
running XP Home and a Hauppauge 950 USB tuner, with a 22" Vizio TV as
the second monitor, driven by a Radeon 9250 PCI card. It will record
720p solidly but has occasional problems with 1080i. CPU usage runs
over 90% on 720, I have to shut off the monitoring program (and
everything else) for 1080. I should have bought a faster computer with
PCI-E slots.

The Hauppauge tuner handles weak signals and ghosting pretty well,
however their software is unimpressive. I use the free VLC player to
watch ATSC recordings and saved Youtube videos.

http://www.mythtv.org/

jsw

Can't speak to your 2.2 GHz system, I've seen a dual core 2200
mentioned. It's not this one, I presume?

I was an analog Hauppauge user, but switched when they were slow to
release HDTV capture in the U.S.

I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
single core, 2 GHz, 4 GB mem (up from 1), Win7 64 bit (up from XP 32
bit), with a single internal HDD (1 TB green WDC, formerly 250 GB),
and Radeon x1300Pro. I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
(typically three) in each channel - thus, up to six HDTV recordings
simultaneously. I have no trouble web surfing whilst recording. I do
use stealth mode, however; meaning that the video is not displayed
while recording. It would not be unusual to have both tuners
displaying HDTV, one in pause while the other is either playing time
deferred or is also paused. The CPU utilization per recorder/player
with HDTV video display enabled is between 20-30%. In stealth mode
it's about 5%.

Interestingly, playing back an MPEG2 captured video in MPC-HC (a
reputedly penurious consumer of CPU resources) eats 60+%. Apparently
OnAir knows how to display HDTV with significantly lower CPU demand.

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Mar 13, 1:56*pm, " CLicker wrote:
...
I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
...I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
....

Autumnwave???:
http://www.autumnwave.com/

jsw

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:38:39 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins
wrote:

On Mar 13, 1:56*pm, " CLicker wrote:
...
I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
...I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
....

Autumnwave???:
http://www.autumnwave.com/

jsw

yep

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Mar 14, 6:54*pm, " CLicker wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:38:39 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins

wrote:
On Mar 13, 1:56*pm, " CLicker wrote:
...
I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
...I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
....

Autumnwave???:
http://www.autumnwave.com/

jsw

yep

Check the link.
"The AutumnWave.com & AutumnWave.us Storefront has been closed!"

Anyway, their tuners cost 5X what I paid for mine. There's so little
on OTA worth saving now that just the tuner and larger HDD cost me
over $10 per hour that I've recorded. I could have bought the DVDs for
less.

jsw

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:13:22 -0700, Jim Wilkins wrote:

There's so little
on OTA worth saving now that just the tuner and larger HDD cost me over
$10 per hour that I've recorded. I could have bought the DVDs for less.

I get so tired of seeing crap like this. I only have OTA and if I only
count the news programs I record, that would come to about 20 hours a
week. But in reality I record about 10 hours a day. Oh, and I've got 6
tuners. I sure as hell wouldn't have that many if there was nothing worth
recording OTA. There's certainly nothing on cable that I would pay $70 a
month to watch. Which is exactly why I don't have pay TV, and never have,
and never will have. Now you might want to say there's nothing on OTA TV
that you think is worth watching, but we both know that's crap too since
basically it has the same type programming as cable. And I'd bet any
amount of money that you watch OTA programming off your cable feed.

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TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Mar 15, 2:27*am, Wes Newell wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:13:22 -0700, Jim Wilkins wrote:
*...And I'd bet any
amount of money that you watch OTA programming off your cable feed.

I don't have cable, just an antenna.

Do you ever replay old news?

jsw

TV freeze frame capture?
 

Jim Wilkins wrote:
Do you ever replay old news?


The news comes on TV when it comes on. I watch it when I watch it. They
are usually not the same times. Sometimes it is only 15 minutes later.
sometimes it is an hour or more. That is the beauty of a DVR.

I almost always watch sports delayed by enough to skip the commercials
and half-time.

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
wrote:

On Mar 14, 6:54*pm, " CLicker wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:38:39 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins

wrote:
On Mar 13, 1:56*pm, " CLicker wrote:
...
I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
...I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
....

Autumnwave???:
http://www.autumnwave.com/

jsw

yep

Check the link.
"The AutumnWave.com & AutumnWave.us Storefront has been closed!"


Yep again. Packed it in a few weeks ago. Predictable, when they let
go the best support tech ever. NTL, super player software. Mine have
been in use for over 4 years, so their demise makes no difference to
me. When these stop working, they'll be replaced by whatever looks
good then.

Anyway, their tuners cost 5X what I paid for mine.

That was obvious in the post to which I responded;-)

There's so little
on OTA worth saving now that just the tuner and larger HDD cost me
over $10 per hour that I've recorded. I could have bought the DVDs for
less.

jsw

Both members of this household record TV. Two cableco recorders, two
digital OnAir recorders, one each HD and SD Hauppauge analog
recorders. There's seldom a day when *nothing* of interest is
available. The analog recorders are used to recapture from the DVRs,
which enables encrypted channel capture for us.

I have captured digital OTA, but since cable is here anyway we now
only capture via cable. We probably get between 15 and 25 air hours
per week from OTA rebroadcasts on cable. These are edited down to
significantly fewer play hours before viewing.

It is extremely rare for either of us to chase-view a broadcast. More
often than not material is viewed months after capture, if not years.

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Mar 15, 4:12*pm, " CLicker wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins





wrote:
On Mar 14, 6:54*pm, " CLicker wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:38:39 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins

wrote:
On Mar 13, 1:56*pm, " CLicker wrote:
...
I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
...I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
....

Autumnwave???:
http://www.autumnwave.com/
jsw

yep

Check the link.
"The AutumnWave.com & AutumnWave.us Storefront has been closed!"

Yep again. *Packed it in a few weeks ago. *Predictable, when they let
go the best support tech ever. ...

Unemployed tech here too, thus the recycled PC and cheap tuner.

Anyway, their tuners cost 5X what I paid for mine.

That was obvious in the post to which I responded;-)

I listed what I have as the bare minimum, not as a recommendation. It
only works because I can tinker with it. Get something better.

Both members of this household record TV. *...

I recorded everything I liked starting around 1985 and have the
equivalent of 5 or 6 copy paper boxes of VCR tapes, of which I've
watched fewer than 20 more than once and most never.

But tastes in entertainment vary, yours are undoubtedly different from
mine. For example I've been downloading Kim Richey's music videos. Who
else has even heard of her?

jsw

TV freeze frame capture?
 

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:53:21 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
wrote:

On Mar 15, 4:12*pm, " CLicker wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins





wrote:
On Mar 14, 6:54*pm, " CLicker wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:38:39 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins

wrote:
On Mar 13, 1:56*pm, " CLicker wrote:
...
I'm using an inexpensive, 5 year old Dell slim tower with AMD 3200:
...I have always had connected to it, via USB2, two
OnAir Creator tuners which record from cable HDTV all streams
....

Autumnwave???:
http://www.autumnwave.com/
jsw

yep

Check the link.
"The AutumnWave.com & AutumnWave.us Storefront has been closed!"

Yep again. *Packed it in a few weeks ago. *Predictable, when they let
go the best support tech ever. ...

Unemployed tech here too, thus the recycled PC and cheap tuner.

Anyway, their tuners cost 5X what I paid for mine.

That was obvious in the post to which I responded;-)

I listed what I have as the bare minimum, not as a recommendation. It
only works because I can tinker with it. Get something better.

Both members of this household record TV. *...

I recorded everything I liked starting around 1985 and have the
equivalent of 5 or 6 copy paper boxes of VCR tapes, of which I've
watched fewer than 20 more than once and most never.

But tastes in entertainment vary, yours are undoubtedly different from
mine. For example I've been downloading Kim Richey's music videos. Who
else has even heard of her?

jsw

Yep! The overlapping set of our in home audio or video enjoyment is
narrow. Enough to enjoy a few hours together from time to time. Yours
and my sets might have similar or complete disjointedness. And you're
right, I've not heard of Kim Richey.

Of one thing I am certain though, my own tastes change significantly
as the decades fly by. Some nostalgic items are best left in memory;
digging them out to refresh that one time enjoyment too often leads to
a disappointing awakening.