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Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS without startingagain
Simple question really can a SMATV system generally be upgraded to an
IRS using existing cables etc or do you generally have to start again from scratch or is it impossible to answer that question without more technical information. I am just trying to understand how much work will be involved to get a new IRS wallplate fitted to my flat which currently only has an outlet connected to an existing SMATV system - I am imagining new cable runs and new holes drilled into every flat but if they have to do this then surely it will take ages to complete and the switchover is in Novemeber and as far as I know they have not started yet. |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
On Mar 4, 4:51*pm, Nick Le Lievre
wrote: Simple question really can a SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS using existing cables etc or do you generally have to start again from scratch or is it impossible to answer that question without more technical information. The latter, but generally an upgrade means renewal. I am just trying to understand how much work will be involved to get a new IRS wallplate fitted to my flat which currently only has an outlet connected to an existing SMATV system - I am imagining new cable runs and new holes drilled into every flat but if they have to do this then surely it will take ages to complete and the switchover is in Novemeber and as far as I know they have not started yet. Don't worry. On a large block it only takes an average of an hour per dwelling. Bill |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
wrote:
On Mar 4, 4:51 pm, Nick Le Lievre wrote: Simple question really can a SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS using existing cables etc or do you generally have to start again from scratch or is it impossible to answer that question without more technical information. The latter, but generally an upgrade means renewal. After reading this http://www.digitaltelevision.gov.uk/...V_Report01.pdf I thought as much I am just trying to understand how much work will be involved to get a new IRS wallplate fitted to my flat which currently only has an outlet connected to an existing SMATV system - I am imagining new cable runs and new holes drilled into every flat but if they have to do this then surely it will take ages to complete and the switchover is in Novemeber and as far as I know they have not started yet. Don't worry. On a large block it only takes an average of an hour per dwelling. My estate is OK only three stories and there is only approx 80 homes, its the high rise blocks that I am thinking about I guess they would have to erect some sort of platform in order that the crew have access. |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
On Mar 4, 6:38*pm, Nick Le Lievre
wrote: wrote: My estate is OK only three stories and there is only approx 80 homes, its the high rise blocks that I am thinking about I guess they would have to erect some sort of platform in order that the crew have access. There's no need for you to concern yourself. Either an internal cable route will be found or a nice big cherry picker will be used. These ones are good fun: http://www.afi-uplift.co.uk/pdf/BA12...m%20L ift.pdf At the end of the day you kiss the ground. Bill |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
I guess when I heard that they were planning a new IRS system I became concerned and immediately thought of the work involved and the cost, I guess there is no cheap way to upgrade, convert, replace (or whatever you want to call it) an SMATV system with an IRS system and its a major task. From this letter http://user.itl.net/~nlel/digitaltv.JPG you might not grasp what is involved It does seem crazy that they're only going to make one satellite feed available to each dwelling when two would not add that much to the overall cost. -- Adrian |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
Adrian wrote:
Nick Le Lievre wrote: I guess when I heard that they were planning a new IRS system I became concerned and immediately thought of the work involved and the cost, I guess there is no cheap way to upgrade, convert, replace (or whatever you want to call it) an SMATV system with an IRS system and its a major task. From this letter http://user.itl.net/~nlel/digitaltv.JPG you might not grasp what is involved It does seem crazy that they're only going to make one satellite feed available to each dwelling when two would not add that much to the overall cost. Well according to this http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/propertym...managing_costs It costs approx £ 200 per outlet to install a basic IRS system, you cannot upgrade an (S)MATV to IRS without replacement so the upgrade prices listed are only for upgrading a (S)MATV to DTT if the cabling supports it. IRS is the preffered option. It says that an enhanced 5 wire IRS support dual feeds costs £ 220 per outlet which is only £ 20 more, but if you figure that they have only increased the rent by £ 1 a week for the 52 weeks of 2010 and that there are about 5000 states homes then if you do the maths 5000 * 200 = £ 1 million and 5000 * 52 is only £ 260,000 so they are subsidising it by £ 740,000 already then add on an extra £ 20 for each outlet and you are talking an extra £ 100,000 |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS without starting again
"Mike Henry" wrote in message
... It does seem crazy that they're only going to make one satellite feed available to each dwelling when two would not add that much to the overall cost. Indeed. And doubly crazy that even now, Nick still doesn't want to fight such a dumb decision, despite being given all the ammunition with which to do so by posters here. If they were not heavily subsidising the system then I would have a strong case I feel, as they are only upping the rent by £ 1 a month over 12 months 2010 in order to recoup some of the costs... its their property some could argue that therefore is it only right that they should pay and as the property managers they can do/spend what they hell they like.... even if I agreed to pay £ 220 they would still need a substancial number of other tenants prepared to pay more to make it more attractive to them... you can not just dual feed one flat you have to do the lot. |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS without starting again
"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message
news:hmrhhb$qh4 If they were not heavily subsidising the system then I would have a strong case I feel, as they are only upping the rent by £ 1 a month over 12 months sorry typo that should read £ 1 a week over 52 weeks. |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS without starting again
"Mike Henry" wrote in message
Yes, as I said, you don't want to fight it. You've decided in advance that you'd lose without even trying, so that's it, game over! You've wasted many months already that you could have spent organising the other residents into a unified protest. I am sure a lot of my neighbours smoke pot all day and could not give a toss either way or are just too dumb to understand the implications and/or have more important things to think about such as money, kids etc sure there would be some more technical minded who might wish to have two feeds also but its a case of getting them all together... at the moment I am one voice what do you suggest I do drop a note into every letterbox on my estate and then its only my estate... there are a number of estates affected. |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Nick Le Lievre" wrote in message news:hmrhhb$qh4 If they were not heavily subsidising the system then I would have a strong case I feel, as they are only upping the rent by £ 1 a month over 12 months sorry typo that should read £ 1 a week over 52 weeks. So if they charged another 10p per week that would cover their costs and that's not going to break anyone. -- Adrian |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
On Mar 5, 12:53*pm, Nick Le Lievre
wrote: wrote: On Mar 4, 6:38 pm, Nick Le Lievre wrote: wrote: My estate is OK only three stories and there is only approx 80 homes, its the high rise blocks that I am thinking about I guess they would have to erect some sort of platform in order that the crew have access.. There's no need for you to concern yourself. Either an internal cable route will be found or a nice big cherry picker will be used. I guess when I heard that they were planning a new IRS system I became concerned and immediately thought of the work involved and the cost, I guess there is no cheap way to upgrade, convert, replace (or whatever you want to call it) an SMATV system with an IRS system and its a major task. From this letterhttp://user.itl.net/~nlel/digitaltv.JPGyou might not grasp what is involved What! They aren't doing Sky+? They must be mad. The tenant will just out their own dishes up. They need to face reality. Bill |
Can an SMATV system generally be upgraded to an IRS withoutstarting again
Nick Le Lievre wrote:
"Mike Henry" wrote in message Yes, as I said, you don't want to fight it. You've decided in advance that you'd lose without even trying, so that's it, game over! You've wasted many months already that you could have spent organising the other residents into a unified protest. I am sure a lot of my neighbours smoke pot all day and could not give a toss either way or are just too dumb to understand the implications and/or have more important things to think about such as money, kids etc sure there would be some more technical minded who might wish to have two feeds also but its a case of getting them all together... at the moment I am one voice what do you suggest I do drop a note into every letterbox on my estate and then its only my estate... there are a number of estates affected. Well, you've dropped A HUNDRED AND FOUR different 'notes' on this subject into OUR 'letterbox' over the past few months - I would have thought that dropping ONE note through 4,000 letterboxes within easy reach would be well within you capabilities ... -- Terry |
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